Invalid Parts (Not Really)

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Happy Day! But it sounds like the DNU description is still needed-for "get
details" situations.

Lydia

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul R. Morrison, Information Systems Manager
[mailto:rmp@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 9:30 AM
To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Invalid Parts (Not Really)

In Cairo, in the Part Master and I think other part listings, ie. doing a
binocular look-up, inactive parts will not be displayed unless you click on
a box to include them.
2
This is just a heads up notice.

Parts marked invalid in your part master are not really invalid.

Help screens indicate that if an invalid part number is entered, the
part description will come up empty.

Invalid parts are only "not shown" when using your binocular button
to search for material.

If an invalid part number is entered manually into a job, order etc.
the description will pop in just fine.
No warning you have just used an invalid part number is given.

Invalid part numbers will also show up in your reports as well.

Epicor has known about this problem for several years.
It is a problem in both versions 3 and 4.
No remedy is currently available

Rich Shafer
APEX Piping Systems, Inc.
incident call #599151
3
Maybe I'm a bit dense but what is an invalid part and how are they flagged
as invalid. I have never seem this.
Yes, you can enter part# into sales orders, jobs and other places that do
not exist in the part master but I would hardy consider them invalid.
Regards
Jim Stetter

-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Shafer [mailto:rshafer@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 10:47 AM
To: vantage@egroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Invalid Parts (Not Really)


This is just a heads up notice.

Parts marked invalid in your part master are not really invalid.

Help screens indicate that if an invalid part number is entered, the
part description will come up empty.

Invalid parts are only "not shown" when using your binocular button
to search for material.

If an invalid part number is entered manually into a job, order etc.
the description will pop in just fine.
No warning you have just used an invalid part number is given.

Invalid part numbers will also show up in your reports as well.

Epicor has known about this problem for several years.
It is a problem in both versions 3 and 4.
No remedy is currently available

Rich Shafer
APEX Piping Systems, Inc.
incident call #599151





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Rich:

I'm assuming you mean Inactive parts. Our work around was to move them to a
DNU (do not use) group, then add the initials DNU as the first three letters
of the part description, then pound anyone who uses a DNU part # in anything
without getting it changed by the part number godlette in Engineering. This
has worked pretty well for us, except that it was labor intensive to change
the parts. Now, if we inactivate a part, it is part of our routine.

HOWEVER, I HAVE BROUGHT THIS TO THE ATTENTION OF THE VANTAGE FORUM AT THE
USER CONFERENCE ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS, MAKING THE SUGGESTION THAT INACTIVE
PART NUMBERS, EMPLOYEES AND SO ON BE KEPT OUT OF THE SORTS-and be truly
inactivated in some fashion.

I have also done my share of prodding or whining to tech support on this
issue.

This does not seem to be an unreasonable request, since so many of us are
dealing with part masters that have some JUNK in them. And employee lists
that have a hundred inactive employees on them. (Or more)!

There, I'm off the soapbox-but I'll keep it handy.

Lydia

Parts marked invalid in your part master are not really invalid.
Help screens indicate that if an invalid part number is entered, the part
description will come up empty.
Invalid parts are only "not shown" when using your binocular button to
search for material.
If an invalid part number is entered manually into a job, order etc. the
description will pop in just fine.
No warning you have just used an invalid part number is given.
Invalid part numbers will also show up in your reports as well.
Epicor has known about this problem for several years.
It is a problem in both versions 3 and 4.
No remedy is currently available

Rich Shafer
APEX Piping Systems, Inc.
incident call #599151
5
Jim,

In the parts master you can mark a part as invalid. So it will not show on
certain parts and not be flagged for production, and a few other reasons I
can't recall off the top of my head.

Eric Tolliver
IT\MIS
Continental Industries Inc.
5456 E. Mcdowell Rd.
Mesa, Az 85215
http://ciirelays.com/
mailto:e.tolliver@...

-----Original Message-----

Maybe I'm a bit dense but what is an invalid part and how are they flagged
as invalid. I have never seem this.
Yes, you can enter part# into sales orders, jobs and other places that do
not exist in the part master but I would hardy consider them invalid.
Regards
Jim Stetter

-----Original Message-----
6
Lydia,

Sorry about my verbage. Yes I meant inactive parts.

I was just a little non-plussed when tech support told me they had known
about this for years.

Thanks for the response. It's got good ideas.


Rich Shafer
APEX Piping Systems, Inc.



Rich:

I'm assuming you mean Inactive parts. Our work around was to move them to a
DNU (do not use) group, then add the initials DNU as the first three letters
of the part description, then pound anyone who uses a DNU part # in anything
without getting it changed by the part number godlette in Engineering. This
has worked pretty well for us, except that it was labor intensive to change
the parts. Now, if we inactivate a part, it is part of our routine.

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In Cairo, in the Part Master and I think other part listings, ie. doing a binocular look-up, inactive parts will not be displayed unless you click on a box to include them.

-----Original Message-----
From: Lydia Coffman [SMTP:lcoffman@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 09:59 AM
To: vantage@egroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Invalid Parts (Not Really)

Rich:

I'm assuming you mean Inactive parts. Our work around was to move them to a
DNU (do not use) group, then add the initials DNU as the first three letters
of the part description, then pound anyone who uses a DNU part # in anything
without getting it changed by the part number godlette in Engineering. This
has worked pretty well for us, except that it was labor intensive to change
the parts. Now, if we inactivate a part, it is part of our routine.

HOWEVER, I HAVE BROUGHT THIS TO THE ATTENTION OF THE VANTAGE FORUM AT THE
USER CONFERENCE ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS, MAKING THE SUGGESTION THAT INACTIVE
PART NUMBERS, EMPLOYEES AND SO ON BE KEPT OUT OF THE SORTS-and be truly
inactivated in some fashion.

I have also done my share of prodding or whining to tech support on this
issue.

This does not seem to be an unreasonable request, since so many of us are
dealing with part masters that have some JUNK in them. And employee lists
that have a hundred inactive employees on them. (Or more)!

There, I'm off the soapbox-but I'll keep it handy.

Lydia

Parts marked invalid in your part master are not really invalid.
Help screens indicate that if an invalid part number is entered, the part
description will come up empty.
Invalid parts are only "not shown" when using your binocular button to
search for material.
If an invalid part number is entered manually into a job, order etc. the
description will pop in just fine.
No warning you have just used an invalid part number is given.
Invalid part numbers will also show up in your reports as well.
Epicor has known about this problem for several years.
It is a problem in both versions 3 and 4.
No remedy is currently available

Rich Shafer
APEX Piping Systems, Inc.
incident call #599151



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That sounds good, but if a job is created with the "Get Details" method from
an old job that contains an inactive part will it raise a flag? Or if the
inactive part number is known and typed in, will it allow that entry? These
are my headaches with the current way version 3 handles inactive parts.

Suzanne Willems
Inventory Manager
Milford Enterprises, Inc.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul R. Morrison, Information Systems Manager
> [SMTP:rmp@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 12:30 PM
> To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] Invalid Parts (Not Really)
>
> In Cairo, in the Part Master and I think other part listings, ie. doing a
> binocular look-up, inactive parts will not be displayed unless you click
> on a box to include them.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lydia Coffman [SMTP:lcoffman@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 09:59 AM
> To: vantage@egroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] Invalid Parts (Not Really)
>
> Rich:
>
> I'm assuming you mean Inactive parts. Our work around was to move them to
> a
> DNU (do not use) group, then add the initials DNU as the first three
> letters
> of the part description, then pound anyone who uses a DNU part # in
> anything
> without getting it changed by the part number godlette in Engineering.
> This
> has worked pretty well for us, except that it was labor intensive to
> change
> the parts. Now, if we inactivate a part, it is part of our routine.
>
> HOWEVER, I HAVE BROUGHT THIS TO THE ATTENTION OF THE VANTAGE FORUM AT THE
> USER CONFERENCE ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS, MAKING THE SUGGESTION THAT INACTIVE
> PART NUMBERS, EMPLOYEES AND SO ON BE KEPT OUT OF THE SORTS-and be truly
> inactivated in some fashion.
>
> I have also done my share of prodding or whining to tech support on this
> issue.
>
> This does not seem to be an unreasonable request, since so many of us are
> dealing with part masters that have some JUNK in them. And employee lists
> that have a hundred inactive employees on them. (Or more)!
>
> There, I'm off the soapbox-but I'll keep it handy.
>
> Lydia
>
> Parts marked invalid in your part master are not really invalid.
> Help screens indicate that if an invalid part number is entered, the part
> description will come up empty.
> Invalid parts are only "not shown" when using your binocular button to
> search for material.
> If an invalid part number is entered manually into a job, order etc. the
> description will pop in just fine.
> No warning you have just used an invalid part number is given.
> Invalid part numbers will also show up in your reports as well.
> Epicor has known about this problem for several years.
> It is a problem in both versions 3 and 4.
> No remedy is currently available
>
> Rich Shafer
> APEX Piping Systems, Inc.
> incident call #599151
>
>
9
We make the Rev's unapproved to the part, then it is not listed when you
"Get Details".

Patrick J. Winter
Information Services Manager
sSc Specialty Screw Corporation
Vantage 3.00.614, Progress 8.3A

-----Original Message-----
From: Lydia Coffman [mailto:lcoffman@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 09:59 AM
To: vantage@egroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Invalid Parts (Not Really)


Rich:

I'm assuming you mean Inactive parts. Our work around was to move them to a
DNU (do not use) group, then add the initials DNU as the first three letters
of the part description, then pound anyone who uses a DNU part # in anything
without getting it changed by the part number godlette in Engineering. This
has worked pretty well for us, except that it was labor intensive to change
the parts. Now, if we inactivate a part, it is part of our routine.

HOWEVER, I HAVE BROUGHT THIS TO THE ATTENTION OF THE VANTAGE FORUM AT THE
USER CONFERENCE ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS, MAKING THE SUGGESTION THAT INACTIVE
PART NUMBERS, EMPLOYEES AND SO ON BE KEPT OUT OF THE SORTS-and be truly
inactivated in some fashion.

I have also done my share of prodding or whining to tech support on this
issue.

This does not seem to be an unreasonable request, since so many of us are
dealing with part masters that have some JUNK in them. And employee lists
that have a hundred inactive employees on them. (Or more)!

There, I'm off the soapbox-but I'll keep it handy.

Lydia

Parts marked invalid in your part master are not really invalid.
Help screens indicate that if an invalid part number is entered, the part
description will come up empty.
Invalid parts are only "not shown" when using your binocular button to
search for material.
If an invalid part number is entered manually into a job, order etc. the
description will pop in just fine.
No warning you have just used an invalid part number is given.
Invalid part numbers will also show up in your reports as well.
Epicor has known about this problem for several years.
It is a problem in both versions 3 and 4.
No remedy is currently available

Rich Shafer
APEX Piping Systems, Inc.
incident call #599151



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