We entered the time entry by selecting the job number, labor quantity, and final operation. After that, we completed the Job Receipt to Inventory entry with the quantity and selected the appropriate warehouse. The finished goods are showing in stock; however, the job still appears open and not completed.
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Did you go through the Job Closing process?
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job closing not yet done, but even if the job is not closed, it should still show how many have been completed on the job header.
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Is there only a single operation, that sounds like there are multiple operations and one is marked as the final operation. If that is the case then that flag overrides the Seq numbers and the job qty pulls from that operation.
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Yes correct, how do I check that?
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I’m not clear on your response? Job Entry/Tracker would show you all of the operations and you can go through each of them and see where the Final Operation flag is set as well as the Qty Completed for each operation.
Another thing I just thought of is when you entered the labour did you enter it as Setup or Production? On the Labour Activity grid you should be able to see what it was entered as, one of the columns should be for type or something along those lines and it will either be an S or a P, if it is S it will not count as having done the operation.
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There are no setup hours; we entered only production time in the time entry. The job has four operations: the last operation is marked as Backflush, and the first three operations are marked as Quantity. We recorded the time entry against the third operation. In fact, none of the production operations have standard production hours defined.”
What I meant by Setup vs Production is if you enter it under Start Setup Activity it will not add the qty to the Oper/Job, it was an outside chance but we used to have people here who occasionally selected the wrong screen.
Since your last Seq Operation is Backflush I don’t think that will ever end up getting qty against it, I don’t even think setting the Final Operation flag on the 3rd operation will backflush that 4th one, I think that actually requires an operation in sequence after it but I am not 100% since I avoid BF operations at the end of the plan.
Is the 3rd operation that you entered a qty against flagged as the final operation, from what you describe it is not and the job will never have qty since that final operation is backflush, you can override that qty issue by setting the 3rd (or any really) operation as the Final Operation and then entering qty against that.
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You can’t have the last operation be marked as backflush. Backflush will complete when a later operation completes (and you need a process running to complete that operation).
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Ok, Shall I mark all the operations as “Qty” and test?
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Maybe?? I don’t really think you and thus we are understanding what you are trying to do.
You can complete operations on the shop floor. This reports labor, and consumes material (if the MATERIAL is set to backflush, don’t confuse this with operation set to backflush, that’s very different). Just completing operations does NOT put them into inventory
You can receive inventory from the job. This can be done regardless if the operations are completed or not. They are independent transactions. You can receive the full quantity from the before anyone transacts anything (material or operations) on the job. You shouldn’t, but you can. You also could forget to do that altogether, and the finished goods will sit on the job in WIP indefinitely.
Finally, “Completing” the job is a checkbox that is checked. Mostly informational.
Closing a job is also a checkbox and this has more function and teeth behind it, but mostly is allows things to happen, like COS/WIP capture to be completed and other financial transactions.
Both completing and closing are manual-ish. There is an auto-complete and auto-close process that you can set up that looks at tolerances for completed operations and materials the various settings and will set the completed and closed flags if you set them up. But they do not auto close like PO’s or Sales or do in the sense that once you receive the full quantity to inventory they close or complete.
Does that make more sense?
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Yes, thank you for these insights. I removed the backflush from the last operation, and it worked as expected. The intent of this activity is that we do not want to book labor entries; we only want to issue the material.
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