Job Operation Auto Receipt to Inventory

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Yes. That would be the answer. The acceptance of the DMR to the job operation completes the job op and requires no MES entry on the part of the inspector. If the inspector did the entry correctly, they should have completed the op anyway and if they were trying to do it again, they should see a message that the op is already completed when they try to clock into it.

Charlie Smith
ESSNER Manufacturing, L.P.
6651 Will Rogers Blvd.
Fort Worth, TX 76140
csmith@...<mailto:csmith@...>
ph: (817) 529-6165
fx: (817) 568-2625
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Thanks Charlie. Then, is it possible that I am seeing the acceptance from DMR to ASM as a Receipt to Inventory, and the employee clocking through the operation as a Receipt to Inventory?



Here is what I find misleading. When the parts are accepted from DMR the transaction type is DMR to ASM, which leads me to believe, just like any other acceptance from DMR, that the parts hit the operation and are still in WIP. Also as noted by the DMR to ASM. You are telling me different. I do not understand why this transaction would move the product to inventory when under normal circumstances the employee must clock thru the operation in order for the Auto Receipt functionality to work.



Jeff



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Vantage 8.03.405


I am looking for a little insight before I go off and start my testing!  I am looking for anyone that has experience with utilizing the "Auto Receipt to Inventory" checkbox on the Job Operation.


Currently we set the Auto Receipt to Inventory on Final Inspection.  I am new to this process and I am questioning if there is an issue when you "fail" parts to DMR at this operation, and then accept them back to the operation.  I believe I have seen this transaction actually trigger the Auto Receipt.  And then the inspector will clock the quantity through Data Collection, which sends a second transaction through the Auto Receipt.


Again, I have not confirmed this and just looking to have the conversation with you all.


Thanks.

Jeff

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I can’t answer to what you were asking but the reason why we don’t like auto receipt is more from a cost perspective.  If you don’t have all costs on the job when that triggers…all new costs hit a variance account.

 

If that is not an issue…then continue with your testing.

 

Manasa

 

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Vantage 8.03.405

 

I am looking for a little insight before I go off and start my testing!  I am looking for anyone that has experience with utilizing the "Auto Receipt to Inventory" checkbox on the Job Operation.

 

Currently we set the Auto Receipt to Inventory on Final Inspection.  I am new to this process and I am questioning if there is an issue when you "fail" parts to DMR at this operation, and then accept them back to the operation.  I believe I have seen this transaction actually trigger the Auto Receipt.  And then the inspector will clock the quantity through Data Collection, which sends a second transaction through the Auto Receipt.

 

Again, I have not confirmed this and just looking to have the conversation with you all.

 

Thanks.

Jeff

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Manasa, I don't disagree at all.  This feature sounds nice, but as I have learned over the years by becoming more in tune to the financial aspect, you really must have your processes fine tuned in order for this to be totally effective across all aspects of the business.


I will keep testing and post back with what I find.


Jeff

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Amen to that!

 

 

 

M. Manasa Reddy

IT Manager

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Manasa, I don't disagree at all.  This feature sounds nice, but as I have learned over the years by becoming more in tune to the financial aspect, you really must have your processes fine tuned in order for this to be totally effective across all aspects of the business.

 

I will keep testing and post back with what I find.

 

Jeff

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Auto Receive can be both good and bad.
Manasa, to answer your concern, the costs are moved from WIP to Inventory at the time of the Mfg receipt to stock. Any WIP transactions after the receipt will end up as a manufacturing variance. Obviously the timing of the Manufacturing Receipt is the key.

Another problem with the auto receive is if there is a primary bin or not for the part. The auto receive will receive to the bin or if there is no bin, the first bin it can find in the warehouse. I would suggest a 00INVIN bin if that becomes the first bin. Then you have to verify that it ACTUALLY went into that bin.

I had problems where the parts would be QA finaled but not go to the stock room. Then we were running around trying to find them and figure out why there weren’t where they were supposed to be.

As for Jeff’s issue, if the parts went into the NCR/DMR system, they would not have been received to inventory, so the likelihood of a double entry is low. Once they were passed back to the job operation, the Autoreceive would create a transaction but not before.


Charlie Smith
ESSNER Manufacturing, L.P.
6651 Will Rogers Blvd.
Fort Worth, TX 76140
csmith@...<mailto:csmith@...>
ph: (817) 529-6165
fx: (817) 568-2625
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I can’t answer to what you were asking but the reason why we don’t like auto receipt is more from a cost perspective. If you don’t have all costs on the job when that triggers…all new costs hit a variance account.

If that is not an issue…then continue with your testing.

Manasa

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Subject: [Vantage] Job Operation Auto Receipt to Inventory



Vantage 8.03.405



I am looking for a little insight before I go off and start my testing! I am looking for anyone that has experience with utilizing the "Auto Receipt to Inventory" checkbox on the Job Operation.



Currently we set the Auto Receipt to Inventory on Final Inspection. I am new to this process and I am questioning if there is an issue when you "fail" parts to DMR at this operation, and then accept them back to the operation. I believe I have seen this transaction actually trigger the Auto Receipt. And then the inspector will clock the quantity through Data Collection, which sends a second transaction through the Auto Receipt.



Again, I have not confirmed this and just looking to have the conversation with you all.



Thanks.

Jeff
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Thanks Charlie.  Then, is it possible that I am seeing the acceptance from DMR to ASM as a Receipt to Inventory, and the employee clocking through the operation as a Receipt to Inventory?


Here is what I find misleading.  When the parts are accepted from DMR the transaction type is DMR to ASM, which leads me to believe, just like any other acceptance from DMR, that the parts hit the operation and are still in WIP.  Also as noted by the DMR to ASM.  You are telling me different.  I do not understand why this transaction would move the product to inventory when under normal circumstances the employee must clock thru the operation in order for the Auto Receipt functionality to work.


Jeff