Labor costs not being captured - 803.404B

I remember there being lots of bugs in 404 where resource level set up data failed to do what it was supposed to (in many processes... backflushing & finite scheduling were the ones I can remember but there were others) if the resource group (containing the resource) had null values in the same fields.

Most issues were resolved in 405.

If it DIDN'T work in your test environment (perhaps unkown as no one can check everything truly until being 'real world load live'), consider putting some values at the group level.

It would at least quickly eliminate that (a bug) as the source of the problem and could be set up & checked (via a quick dummy job that you report against, then check costs & finally kill when done) in seconds.

Rob




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From: saab_barracuda <chris.clunn@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 4:15:40 PM
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Labor costs not being captured - 803.404B





Manasa: Costing Labor Rates in the resource group setup only affect the standard cost roll and job estimates. That has no effect on applied costs.

Ed: The only other thing I can think of is to check that the "Production Worker" box is checked on the first page of Employee setup.

Did this work for you in your test environment before implementation?

--- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, Ed Garbowski <egarbowski@ ...> wrote:
>
> - None of the accounts, applied labor, WIP or COS reflect any labor costs.
>
> - Actual labor costs do not show up on the Production Detail, but hours do show.
>
> - We do have Labor Rate populated with the correct figure and Active Shop Employee is checked. There is only $1.00 populated in the Pay Rate since we are not using it.
>
> Thanks,
> Ed
> From: vantage@yahoogroups .com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of saab_barracuda
> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:56 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Labor costs not being captured - 803.404B
>
>
>
>
>
> Which specific accounts are you not seeing labor costs? Applied Labor, WIP, COS, all of the above?
>
> Are there labor transaction costs showing for your jobs (WIP report and/or Production Detail)? If not, are there at least labor hours showing up on your jobs (Production Detail)?
>
> Do you really have "Labor Rate" populated? I.e. not just "Pay Rate" but the field for "Labor Rate" in Employee setup? The Labor Rate and Pay Rate are two related but separately assigned variables.
>
> Labor cost is a simple calculation of labor hours times labor rate.
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups .com<mailto:vantage% 40yahoogroups. com>, "Ed Garbowski" <egarbowski@ > wrote:
> >
> > Since going live 7 weeks ago, we have not shown labor costs to be captured in our WIP/Inventory Reconciliation report. We are using the Payroll module which is selected in the Company setup, the labor rate is set in Payroll, employees are set as Payroll employees, GL accounts are correct, Pay Types and Labor expense code are all pointing to the same GL accounts, and we have checked everything else we know of to verify settings are correct, however cannot figure out why labor is still not showing up. Any ideas of where else to look?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ed
> >
>
>
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Since going live 7 weeks ago, we have not shown labor costs to be captured in our WIP/Inventory Reconciliation report. We are using the Payroll module which is selected in the Company setup, the labor rate is set in Payroll, employees are set as Payroll employees, GL accounts are correct, Pay Types and Labor expense code are all pointing to the same GL accounts, and we have checked everything else we know of to verify settings are correct, however cannot figure out why labor is still not showing up. Any ideas of where else to look?

Thanks,
Ed
Which specific accounts are you not seeing labor costs? Applied Labor, WIP, COS, all of the above?

Are there labor transaction costs showing for your jobs (WIP report and/or Production Detail)? If not, are there at least labor hours showing up on your jobs (Production Detail)?

Do you really have "Labor Rate" populated? I.e. not just "Pay Rate" but the field for "Labor Rate" in Employee setup? The Labor Rate and Pay Rate are two related but separately assigned variables.

Labor cost is a simple calculation of labor hours times labor rate.


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Ed Garbowski" <egarbowski@...> wrote:
>
> Since going live 7 weeks ago, we have not shown labor costs to be captured in our WIP/Inventory Reconciliation report. We are using the Payroll module which is selected in the Company setup, the labor rate is set in Payroll, employees are set as Payroll employees, GL accounts are correct, Pay Types and Labor expense code are all pointing to the same GL accounts, and we have checked everything else we know of to verify settings are correct, however cannot figure out why labor is still not showing up. Any ideas of where else to look?
>
> Thanks,
> Ed
>
Also check the labor rate on your resource groups and resources...


M. Manasa Reddy
manasa@...
P: 630-806-2000
F: 630-806-2001


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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of saab_barracuda
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:56 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Labor costs not being captured - 803.404B





Which specific accounts are you not seeing labor costs? Applied Labor,
WIP, COS, all of the above?

Are there labor transaction costs showing for your jobs (WIP report
and/or Production Detail)? If not, are there at least labor hours
showing up on your jobs (Production Detail)?

Do you really have "Labor Rate" populated? I.e. not just "Pay Rate" but
the field for "Labor Rate" in Employee setup? The Labor Rate and Pay
Rate are two related but separately assigned variables.

Labor cost is a simple calculation of labor hours times labor rate.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Ed
Garbowski" <egarbowski@...> wrote:
>
> Since going live 7 weeks ago, we have not shown labor costs to be
captured in our WIP/Inventory Reconciliation report. We are using the
Payroll module which is selected in the Company setup, the labor rate is
set in Payroll, employees are set as Payroll employees, GL accounts are
correct, Pay Types and Labor expense code are all pointing to the same
GL accounts, and we have checked everything else we know of to verify
settings are correct, however cannot figure out why labor is still not
showing up. Any ideas of where else to look?
>
> Thanks,
> Ed
>






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- None of the accounts, applied labor, WIP or COS reflect any labor costs.

- Actual labor costs do not show up on the Production Detail, but hours do show.

- We do have Labor Rate populated with the correct figure and Active Shop Employee is checked. There is only $1.00 populated in the Pay Rate since we are not using it.

Thanks,
Ed
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of saab_barracuda
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:56 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Labor costs not being captured - 803.404B





Which specific accounts are you not seeing labor costs? Applied Labor, WIP, COS, all of the above?

Are there labor transaction costs showing for your jobs (WIP report and/or Production Detail)? If not, are there at least labor hours showing up on your jobs (Production Detail)?

Do you really have "Labor Rate" populated? I.e. not just "Pay Rate" but the field for "Labor Rate" in Employee setup? The Labor Rate and Pay Rate are two related but separately assigned variables.

Labor cost is a simple calculation of labor hours times labor rate.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>, "Ed Garbowski" <egarbowski@...> wrote:
>
> Since going live 7 weeks ago, we have not shown labor costs to be captured in our WIP/Inventory Reconciliation report. We are using the Payroll module which is selected in the Company setup, the labor rate is set in Payroll, employees are set as Payroll employees, GL accounts are correct, Pay Types and Labor expense code are all pointing to the same GL accounts, and we have checked everything else we know of to verify settings are correct, however cannot figure out why labor is still not showing up. Any ideas of where else to look?
>
> Thanks,
> Ed
>


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I am not sure if this applies but in version 6.1 the operation is where the
labor comes from. We have the labor rates stored in the Shop Employee file.

Kathy Schaich
Operations Support Manager
Ultra Tool & Manufacturing, Inc.



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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Ed Garbowski
Sent: June 10, 2009 1:28 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Labor costs not being captured - 803.404B





- None of the accounts, applied labor, WIP or COS reflect any labor costs.

- Actual labor costs do not show up on the Production Detail, but hours do
show.

- We do have Labor Rate populated with the correct figure and Active Shop
Employee is checked. There is only $1.00 populated in the Pay Rate since we
are not using it.

Thanks,
Ed
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Behalf Of saab_barracuda
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:56 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Labor costs not being captured - 803.404B

Which specific accounts are you not seeing labor costs? Applied Labor, WIP,
COS, all of the above?

Are there labor transaction costs showing for your jobs (WIP report and/or
Production Detail)? If not, are there at least labor hours showing up on
your jobs (Production Detail)?

Do you really have "Labor Rate" populated? I.e. not just "Pay Rate" but the
field for "Labor Rate" in Employee setup? The Labor Rate and Pay Rate are
two related but separately assigned variables.

Labor cost is a simple calculation of labor hours times labor rate.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>, "Ed Garbowski" <egarbowski@...>
wrote:
>
> Since going live 7 weeks ago, we have not shown labor costs to be captured
in our WIP/Inventory Reconciliation report. We are using the Payroll module
which is selected in the Company setup, the labor rate is set in Payroll,
employees are set as Payroll employees, GL accounts are correct, Pay Types
and Labor expense code are all pointing to the same GL accounts, and we have
checked everything else we know of to verify settings are correct, however
cannot figure out why labor is still not showing up. Any ideas of where else
to look?
>
> Thanks,
> Ed
>

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Manasa: Costing Labor Rates in the resource group setup only affect the standard cost roll and job estimates. That has no effect on applied costs.


Ed: The only other thing I can think of is to check that the "Production Worker" box is checked on the first page of Employee setup.

Did this work for you in your test environment before implementation?


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Ed Garbowski <egarbowski@...> wrote:
>
> - None of the accounts, applied labor, WIP or COS reflect any labor costs.
>
> - Actual labor costs do not show up on the Production Detail, but hours do show.
>
> - We do have Labor Rate populated with the correct figure and Active Shop Employee is checked. There is only $1.00 populated in the Pay Rate since we are not using it.
>
> Thanks,
> Ed
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of saab_barracuda
> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:56 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Labor costs not being captured - 803.404B
>
>
>
>
>
> Which specific accounts are you not seeing labor costs? Applied Labor, WIP, COS, all of the above?
>
> Are there labor transaction costs showing for your jobs (WIP report and/or Production Detail)? If not, are there at least labor hours showing up on your jobs (Production Detail)?
>
> Do you really have "Labor Rate" populated? I.e. not just "Pay Rate" but the field for "Labor Rate" in Employee setup? The Labor Rate and Pay Rate are two related but separately assigned variables.
>
> Labor cost is a simple calculation of labor hours times labor rate.
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>, "Ed Garbowski" <egarbowski@> wrote:
> >
> > Since going live 7 weeks ago, we have not shown labor costs to be captured in our WIP/Inventory Reconciliation report. We are using the Payroll module which is selected in the Company setup, the labor rate is set in Payroll, employees are set as Payroll employees, GL accounts are correct, Pay Types and Labor expense code are all pointing to the same GL accounts, and we have checked everything else we know of to verify settings are correct, however cannot figure out why labor is still not showing up. Any ideas of where else to look?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ed
> >
>
>
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Chris, you are right....

Ed, does your guys report their times through MES? Are they recording
their quantities?



M. Manasa Reddy
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F: 630-806-2001


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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of saab_barracuda
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 3:16 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Labor costs not being captured - 803.404B





Manasa: Costing Labor Rates in the resource group setup only affect the
standard cost roll and job estimates. That has no effect on applied
costs.

Ed: The only other thing I can think of is to check that the "Production
Worker" box is checked on the first page of Employee setup.

Did this work for you in your test environment before implementation?

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , Ed
Garbowski <egarbowski@...> wrote:
>
> - None of the accounts, applied labor, WIP or COS reflect any labor
costs.
>
> - Actual labor costs do not show up on the Production Detail, but
hours do show.
>
> - We do have Labor Rate populated with the correct figure and Active
Shop Employee is checked. There is only $1.00 populated in the Pay Rate
since we are not using it.
>
> Thanks,
> Ed
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of saab_barracuda
> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:56 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Labor costs not being captured - 803.404B
>
>
>
>
>
> Which specific accounts are you not seeing labor costs? Applied Labor,
WIP, COS, all of the above?
>
> Are there labor transaction costs showing for your jobs (WIP report
and/or Production Detail)? If not, are there at least labor hours
showing up on your jobs (Production Detail)?
>
> Do you really have "Labor Rate" populated? I.e. not just "Pay Rate"
but the field for "Labor Rate" in Employee setup? The Labor Rate and Pay
Rate are two related but separately assigned variables.
>
> Labor cost is a simple calculation of labor hours times labor rate.
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>, "Ed Garbowski" <egarbowski@> wrote:
> >
> > Since going live 7 weeks ago, we have not shown labor costs to be
captured in our WIP/Inventory Reconciliation report. We are using the
Payroll module which is selected in the Company setup, the labor rate is
set in Payroll, employees are set as Payroll employees, GL accounts are
correct, Pay Types and Labor expense code are all pointing to the same
GL accounts, and we have checked everything else we know of to verify
settings are correct, however cannot figure out why labor is still not
showing up. Any ideas of where else to look?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ed
> >
>
>
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