A Production manager called my attention to behavior in Mass Issue that I had not see before. He did Mass issue on a job that had a production of 10 , inputting to only Mass issue for 2 to start (per screenshot). This worked fine. Then the next day he went to issue 3 more and it will not do it. No more partial issues. It leaves zeroes in the Quantity Issued grid. It will only allow him to Mass issue the remaining full 7, then it completes the Quantity Issued. I told him to take down the job prod qty to 5 temporarily, if he really wants to partial issue. I toyed with teaching him how to take it to Excel, input what he wanted and past update, but that feels ripe for error. Any thoughts on this out there?
I believe you can edit the issued Qtyās on the grid that shows after clicking Issue.
You have to do the math by hand, for each material line.
Iāve never liked the Mass Issue program (yet we use it almost exclusively). The UI wonky. Originally, it would look like the issue didnāt happen, so weād run it again - netting in a double issue. It has to do with how the info presented depends on the radio buttons.
Yeah, we can edit them after, but that sorta defeats the purpose of the Mass Issue. I donāt love the program either but when issuing 50 parts of varying quantities from varying bins to a job, it really becomes a necessityā¦ unless we ever did backflushing but thatās for another day.
After doing the partial issue, is the āIssued Completeā flag set?
Although that seems like it would prevent any further issues, and not limit you to the exact qty remaining.
Do any parts use any flags that make the Qty Required not linear with the Qty Produced? (Iām having a brain fart as to what that flag is called in the BOM - the one that says ājust use this amount regardless of how many parents are madeā )
Nope ~ no issued complete checked on any of the parts. Also, nothing funky on the qty required not being linear function of the parent. All very normalā¦
When I come in, Open Issues is checked. Then when I push āIssue Allā button (to issue my 1 (parent) required to issue) it checks completed per earlier screenshot but leaves all the Qty Issued blank(0). If I do something other than click Issue all with the Open issues checked, it does nothing.
We have found this to be a little āWonkyā also. the first day of issuing 2 works fine. On the second day , if you want to make another 3, you have to mass issue 5. The hint was that you only had 7 left ( out of 10) which is 10-3 ( the last mass issue). if you were to go to day 3 and try to mass issue 2, it would not let you because you already issued 3. In other words, Mass Issue is cumulative not additive. I hope this helps.
Checking with Job Tracker shows that 2 x Qty Per has been issued
Launch Mass Issue to Mfg and enter Job number
The Assy Qty shows 7. Youād think it would be 5 (the original 7 minus the 2 from the previous mass issue), but it doesnāt.
Change Assy Qty to 3, and click Issue button
The Mass Issue window switches to the Issue -> List Sheet, the Open Issues radio button is checked, and the Qty Issued column has all zeros. Just like the first time (step 5)
Click Issue All button
The Qty Issued column now updates with values equal to Qty Per x 3 (the qty from step 13), and the Completed radio button is now marked
Click OK to issue the qtys shown in step 16. Note the Completed radio button remains checked, but the Qty Issued column reverts to zeros. Previous Issued now shows the Qtyās from both Mass Issues
Close Mass issue
Checking with Job Tracker shows that 5 x Qty Per has been issued
It seems that the Issue All but ālocks outā to prevent double issues. This might be new since V8, as it used to happen to us all the time.
If I want to issue more to this job, I have to change the Assy Qty on the first sheet and click Issue again. Or just close and re-open the Mass Issue program
Iām doing the same exact thing (ensure no customization, no bpm running - which I actually normally do have running) but Step 16 does not occur for us. Are you truly on 10.1.400.23?
We are on 10.1.500.20.
Yes. We are 10.1.400.23.
Like I said in my follow-up post, it appears to ālock outā the issue all functionality after youāve done an issue to a job. I had to either close out the Mass Issue screen and re-open it or change the Assy Qty and click the Issue button on sheet āJob/Assembliesā.
I think that Issue button does more than switch you to the Issue -> List sheet.
We have had a few weird mass issue issues with E10. We have some parts they donāt issue until they finish the job. The job is still open but we have issue getting the remaining parts to issue.
Ok, Iāve tested on a completely different part / job. Iām getting strange results here too. One thing thatās very strange is that when I try to issue a partial 2 (following initial 1) it fails first time around. Reopen and then try it, and it issues one, instead of the asked for 2. (I have 47 left on job to do). Wow. I think itās Friday afternoon.
OMG! This is it. Thank you Dean. (and thanks Calvin and Kim too!)
Never in a million years was I going to get there on my own. Cumulativeā¦ how crazy.
Ugh ā¦ And now that I look at my example, I see that an issue of 2, followed by an issue of 3, only had a total issue of 3, not the expected 5.
After the 2nd issue (which I thought was for 3), the qtyās matched what Iād expect for 3. But this wasnāt ā3 moreā, it was ā3 in totalāā¦
I was a victim of poor choice for my example numbers.
