MES touchscreen monitors

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In my previous life I never did get the touch screens implemented. I can tell you though, as many have said, I couldn't get people away from the keyboard and mouse.

I had a barcode card reader, barcode gun reader and barcode sheets (Resource Groups, Resources, Numbers, Letters...you name it I probably had it) neatly mounted to the side of the computer inclosure. Oh, even label printers. Everyone complained about how long things took to process, yet they wouldn't scan a barcode and would rather scroll and peck.

Here, we haven't went this direction yet but I am going to save this thread for future reference.

Jeff

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Nelson Dufour <ndufour@...> wrote:
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> Hi Everyone,
> Just looking at touchscreen monitors for our mes stations(winxp
> pc's)...anyone have any suggestions?
> Thanks in advance,
>
> --
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> Nelson L. Dufour
> I.S. Services Mgr.
> 1691 Walker Rd.
> Windsor, ON. N8W 3P1
> 519-253-2461 313-965-8680
> Fax: 519-253-5911
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Hi Everyone,
Just looking at touchscreen monitors for our mes stations(winxp
pc's)...anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks in advance,

--

Nelson L. Dufour
I.S. Services Mgr.
1691 Walker Rd.
Windsor, ON. N8W 3P1
519-253-2461 313-965-8680
Fax: 519-253-5911





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We went with ELO and haven't had any problems in 4 years.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Nelson Dufour <ndufour@...> wrote:
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> Hi Everyone,
> Just looking at touchscreen monitors for our mes stations(winxp
> pc's)...anyone have any suggestions?
> Thanks in advance,
>
> --
>
> Nelson L. Dufour
> I.S. Services Mgr.
> 1691 Walker Rd.
> Windsor, ON. N8W 3P1
> 519-253-2461 313-965-8680
> Fax: 519-253-5911
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Truthfully, we hate them. The screen must be constantly recalibrated, and using a finger for things like click-drag to highlight text, or clicking on a combo box drop down, or tapping in to a box and trying to position a cursor at a particular point... very frustrating for guys on the shop floor.
We gave up and put mouse/keyboard on each of them.
Plus, consider the cost. The touchscreens are roughly 3 to 4 times the cost of equivalent PC. At the time we bought them 3 yrs ago, they were over $2,000.
Hope that input helps at all.


In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Nelson Dufour <ndufour@...> wrote:

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> Hi Everyone,

> Just looking at touchscreen monitors for our mes stations(winxp

> pc's)...anyone have any suggestions?

> Thanks in advance,

>

> --

>

> Nelson L. Dufour

> I.S. Services Mgr.

> 1691 Walker Rd.

> Windsor, ON. N8W 3P1

> 519-253-2461 313-965-8680

> Fax: 519-253-5911

>

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We had the Dell (3M) units for years, but now use the Planar models that work much better and are more stable without need for calibration as mentioned.
http://www.planartouch.com/products/

Good Luck,

George Hicks
Pacific Consolidated Industries

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Nelson Dufour <ndufour@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone,
> Just looking at touchscreen monitors for our mes stations(winxp
> pc's)...anyone have any suggestions?
> Thanks in advance,
>
> --
>
> Nelson L. Dufour
> I.S. Services Mgr.
> 1691 Walker Rd.
> Windsor, ON. N8W 3P1
> 519-253-2461 313-965-8680
> Fax: 519-253-5911
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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I agree with Tony. As much as one would think the users would like the touchscreens, I’ve found that the shop floor employees find them cumbersome. They prefer the mouse and keyboard. You can buy two nice desktop PC’s for the price of one touchscreen all-in-one POS-style PC.


Vic Drecchio
Director of Information Technology

Swepco Tube
One Clifton Blvd, Clifton, NJ 07011

Email: vic.drecchio@...
Mobile: (704) 530-3092


From: Tony Hughes
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 5:18 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: MES touchscreen monitors


Truthfully, we hate them. The screen must be constantly recalibrated, and using a finger for things like click-drag to highlight text, or clicking on a combo box drop down, or tapping in to a box and trying to position a cursor at a particular point... very frustrating for guys on the shop floor.
We gave up and put mouse/keyboard on each of them.
Plus, consider the cost. The touchscreens are roughly 3 to 4 times the cost of equivalent PC. At the time we bought them 3 yrs ago, they were over $2,000.
Hope that input helps at all.

In mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com, Nelson Dufour <ndufour@...> wrote:

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> Hi Everyone,

> Just looking at touchscreen monitors for our mes stations(winxp

> pc's)...anyone have any suggestions?

> Thanks in advance,

>

> --

>

> Nelson L. Dufour

> I.S. Services Mgr.

> 1691 Walker Rd.

> Windsor, ON. N8W 3P1

> 519-253-2461 313-965-8680

> Fax: 519-253-5911

>

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>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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We are in the process of deciding whether to use touch or not. Initially, we thought it would be a no brainier and touch would be the way to go. Now I am reconsidering that position. Is is possible to create a poll on this forum to see what the group thinks overall?

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Vic Drecchio" <vic.drecchio@...> wrote:
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> I agree with Tony. As much as one would think the users would like the touchscreens, I’ve found that the shop floor employees find them cumbersome. They prefer the mouse and keyboard. You can buy two nice desktop PC’s for the price of one touchscreen all-in-one POS-style PC.
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> Vic Drecchio
> Director of Information Technology
>
> Swepco Tube
> One Clifton Blvd, Clifton, NJ 07011
>
> Email: vic.drecchio@...
> Mobile: (704) 530-3092
>
>
> From: Tony Hughes
> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 5:18 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: MES touchscreen monitors
>
>
> Truthfully, we hate them. The screen must be constantly recalibrated, and using a finger for things like click-drag to highlight text, or clicking on a combo box drop down, or tapping in to a box and trying to position a cursor at a particular point... very frustrating for guys on the shop floor.
> We gave up and put mouse/keyboard on each of them.
> Plus, consider the cost. The touchscreens are roughly 3 to 4 times the cost of equivalent PC. At the time we bought them 3 yrs ago, they were over $2,000.
> Hope that input helps at all.
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> In mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com, Nelson Dufour <ndufour@> wrote:
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> > Hi Everyone,
>
> > Just looking at touchscreen monitors for our mes stations(winxp
>
> > pc's)...anyone have any suggestions?
>
> > Thanks in advance,
>
> >
>
> > --
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> > Nelson L. Dufour
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> > I.S. Services Mgr.
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> > 1691 Walker Rd.
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> > Windsor, ON. N8W 3P1
>
> > 519-253-2461 313-965-8680
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> > Fax: 519-253-5911
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IMO, I would suggest you poll your production / shop floor employees. They’re the ones who will be using them. Not sure if you have a touchscreen already in-house, but if you do, temporarily set it up on the shop floor so they can use it for a week.

My touchscreens lasted about 1-week until I had to connect a mouse (I always had a keyboard attached... the on-screen keyboard is horrible).

From: Tim Vonderhaar
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 9:01 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: MES touchscreen monitors


We are in the process of deciding whether to use touch or not. Initially, we thought it would be a no brainier and touch would be the way to go. Now I am reconsidering that position. Is is possible to create a poll on this forum to see what the group thinks overall?

--- In mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com, "Vic Drecchio" <vic.drecchio@...> wrote:
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> I agree with Tony. As much as one would think the users would like the touchscreens, I’ve found that the shop floor employees find them cumbersome. They prefer the mouse and keyboard. You can buy two nice desktop PC’s for the price of one touchscreen all-in-one POS-style PC.
>
>
> Vic Drecchio
> Director of Information Technology
>
> Swepco Tube
> One Clifton Blvd, Clifton, NJ 07011
>
> Email: vic.drecchio@...
> Mobile: (704) 530-3092
>
>
> From: Tony Hughes
> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 5:18 PM
> To: mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: MES touchscreen monitors
>
>
> Truthfully, we hate them. The screen must be constantly recalibrated, and using a finger for things like click-drag to highlight text, or clicking on a combo box drop down, or tapping in to a box and trying to position a cursor at a particular point... very frustrating for guys on the shop floor.
> We gave up and put mouse/keyboard on each of them.
> Plus, consider the cost. The touchscreens are roughly 3 to 4 times the cost of equivalent PC. At the time we bought them 3 yrs ago, they were over $2,000.
> Hope that input helps at all.
>
> In mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com, Nelson Dufour <ndufour@> wrote:
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> >
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> > Hi Everyone,
>
> > Just looking at touchscreen monitors for our mes stations(winxp
>
> > pc's)...anyone have any suggestions?
>
> > Thanks in advance,
>
> >
>
> > --
>
> >
>
> > Nelson L. Dufour
>
> > I.S. Services Mgr.
>
> > 1691 Walker Rd.
>
> > Windsor, ON. N8W 3P1
>
> > 519-253-2461 313-965-8680
>
> > Fax: 519-253-5911
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We're kind of in the same boat on trying to decide which way to go. My thought's on it are. People break things, especially things that are not theirs and we have fork trucks driving around where the stations will be. Should a touchscreen monitor break cost to replace is much greater (especially if it's all in one) if it's a regular monitor maybe 70 bucks and were back in business and I will have cold swaps available. Our solution is to use bar code scanners for the majority of the work with customized tab indexes to fit our flow, a mouse to navigate, and a usb 10-key for any numerical entries they need to perform. This keeps the amount of keyboard keys to a minimum that they need to interact with while keeping cost down and reliability up :)

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Vonderhaar" <tvonderhaar@...> wrote:
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> We are in the process of deciding whether to use touch or not. Initially, we thought it would be a no brainier and touch would be the way to go. Now I am reconsidering that position. Is is possible to create a poll on this forum to see what the group thinks overall?
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Vic Drecchio" <vic.drecchio@> wrote:
> >
> > I agree with Tony. As much as one would think the users would like the touchscreens, I’ve found that the shop floor employees find them cumbersome. They prefer the mouse and keyboard. You can buy two nice desktop PC’s for the price of one touchscreen all-in-one POS-style PC.
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> >
> > Vic Drecchio
> > Director of Information Technology
> >
> > Swepco Tube
> > One Clifton Blvd, Clifton, NJ 07011
> >
> > Email: vic.drecchio@
> > Mobile: (704) 530-3092
> >
> >
> > From: Tony Hughes
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 5:18 PM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: MES touchscreen monitors
> >
> >
> > Truthfully, we hate them. The screen must be constantly recalibrated, and using a finger for things like click-drag to highlight text, or clicking on a combo box drop down, or tapping in to a box and trying to position a cursor at a particular point... very frustrating for guys on the shop floor.
> > We gave up and put mouse/keyboard on each of them.
> > Plus, consider the cost. The touchscreens are roughly 3 to 4 times the cost of equivalent PC. At the time we bought them 3 yrs ago, they were over $2,000.
> > Hope that input helps at all.
> >
> > In mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com, Nelson Dufour <ndufour@> wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > > Just looking at touchscreen monitors for our mes stations(winxp
> >
> > > pc's)...anyone have any suggestions?
> >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > >
> >
> > > --
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Nelson L. Dufour
> >
> > > I.S. Services Mgr.
> >
> > > 1691 Walker Rd.
> >
> > > Windsor, ON. N8W 3P1
> >
> > > 519-253-2461 313-965-8680
> >
> > > Fax: 519-253-5911
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I will give that a try. We don't have any touch screens currently, so not sure how much they will be able to evaluate one against the other.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Vic Drecchio" <vic.drecchio@...> wrote:
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> IMO, I would suggest you poll your production / shop floor employees. They’re the ones who will be using them. Not sure if you have a touchscreen already in-house, but if you do, temporarily set it up on the shop floor so they can use it for a week.
>
> My touchscreens lasted about 1-week until I had to connect a mouse (I always had a keyboard attached... the on-screen keyboard is horrible).
>
> From: Tim Vonderhaar
> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 9:01 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: MES touchscreen monitors
>
>
> We are in the process of deciding whether to use touch or not. Initially, we thought it would be a no brainier and touch would be the way to go. Now I am reconsidering that position. Is is possible to create a poll on this forum to see what the group thinks overall?
>
> --- In mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com, "Vic Drecchio" <vic.drecchio@> wrote:
> >
> > I agree with Tony. As much as one would think the users would like the touchscreens, I’ve found that the shop floor employees find them cumbersome. They prefer the mouse and keyboard. You can buy two nice desktop PC’s for the price of one touchscreen all-in-one POS-style PC.
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> > Vic Drecchio
> > Director of Information Technology
> >
> > Swepco Tube
> > One Clifton Blvd, Clifton, NJ 07011
> >
> > Email: vic.drecchio@
> > Mobile: (704) 530-3092
> >
> >
> > From: Tony Hughes
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 5:18 PM
> > To: mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: MES touchscreen monitors
> >
> >
> > Truthfully, we hate them. The screen must be constantly recalibrated, and using a finger for things like click-drag to highlight text, or clicking on a combo box drop down, or tapping in to a box and trying to position a cursor at a particular point... very frustrating for guys on the shop floor.
> > We gave up and put mouse/keyboard on each of them.
> > Plus, consider the cost. The touchscreens are roughly 3 to 4 times the cost of equivalent PC. At the time we bought them 3 yrs ago, they were over $2,000.
> > Hope that input helps at all.
> >
> > In mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com, Nelson Dufour <ndufour@> wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > > Just looking at touchscreen monitors for our mes stations(winxp
> >
> > > pc's)...anyone have any suggestions?
> >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> >
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> > > --
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> > > Nelson L. Dufour
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> > > I.S. Services Mgr.
> >
> > > 1691 Walker Rd.
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> > > Windsor, ON. N8W 3P1
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> > > 519-253-2461 313-965-8680
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Tim,
If you have no touchscreen available, try pulling up a web form on someone's iphone or droid (any touchscreen phone with Internet could work) and see how people like dropping down a combo box, tapping in to a text box and trying to drag cursor to highlight text, etc. It will at least give an idea.

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From: Tim Vonderhaar <tvonderhaar@...>
Subject: [Vantage] Re: MES touchscreen monitors
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 22, 2011, 1:39 PM







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I will give that a try. We don't have any touch screens currently, so not sure how much they will be able to evaluate one against the other.



--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Vic Drecchio" <vic.drecchio@...> wrote:

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> IMO, I would suggest you poll your production / shop floor employees. They’re the ones who will be using them. Not sure if you have a touchscreen already in-house, but if you do, temporarily set it up on the shop floor so they can use it for a week.

>

> My touchscreens lasted about 1-week until I had to connect a mouse (I always had a keyboard attached... the on-screen keyboard is horrible).

>

> From: Tim Vonderhaar

> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 9:01 AM

> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: [Vantage] Re: MES touchscreen monitors

>

>

> We are in the process of deciding whether to use touch or not. Initially, we thought it would be a no brainier and touch would be the way to go. Now I am reconsidering that position. Is is possible to create a poll on this forum to see what the group thinks overall?

>

> --- In mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com, "Vic Drecchio" <vic.drecchio@> wrote:

> >

> > I agree with Tony. As much as one would think the users would like the touchscreens, I’ve found that the shop floor employees find them cumbersome. They prefer the mouse and keyboard. You can buy two nice desktop PC’s for the price of one touchscreen all-in-one POS-style PC.

> >

> >

> > Vic Drecchio

> > Director of Information Technology

> >

> > Swepco Tube

> > One Clifton Blvd, Clifton, NJ 07011

> >

> > Email: vic.drecchio@

> > Mobile: (704) 530-3092

> >

> >

> > From: Tony Hughes

> > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 5:18 PM

> > To: mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com

> > Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: MES touchscreen monitors

> >

> >

> > Truthfully, we hate them. The screen must be constantly recalibrated, and using a finger for things like click-drag to highlight text, or clicking on a combo box drop down, or tapping in to a box and trying to position a cursor at a particular point... very frustrating for guys on the shop floor.

> > We gave up and put mouse/keyboard on each of them.

> > Plus, consider the cost. The touchscreens are roughly 3 to 4 times the cost of equivalent PC. At the time we bought them 3 yrs ago, they were over $2,000.

> > Hope that input helps at all.

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> > In mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com, Nelson Dufour <ndufour@> wrote:

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> > > Hi Everyone,

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> > > Just looking at touchscreen monitors for our mes stations(winxp

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> > > pc's)...anyone have any suggestions?

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> > > Thanks in advance,

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> > > I.S. Services Mgr.

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> > > 1691 Walker Rd.

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> > > Windsor, ON. N8W 3P1

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> > > 519-253-2461 313-965-8680

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I'm going to be bet, if given a choice, the shop guys will automatically pick the keyboard mouse route. They are very much creatures of habit and need persuading to use something new. If that something new isn't obviously better, they will resist. My plan now is to just ask everyone's opinion and go with the majority. That way, at least we have buy in with everyone.

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> Tim,
> If you have no touchscreen available, try pulling up a web form on someone's iphone or droid (any touchscreen phone with Internet could work) and see how people like dropping down a combo box, tapping in to a text box and trying to drag cursor to highlight text, etc. It will at least give an idea.
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> --- On Thu, 9/22/11, Tim Vonderhaar <tvonderhaar@...> wrote:
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> From: Tim Vonderhaar <tvonderhaar@...>
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: MES touchscreen monitors
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, September 22, 2011, 1:39 PM
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> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Vic Drecchio" <vic.drecchio@> wrote:
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> > IMO, I would suggest you poll your production / shop floor employees. They’re the ones who will be using them. Not sure if you have a touchscreen already in-house, but if you do, temporarily set it up on the shop floor so they can use it for a week.
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> > From: Tim Vonderhaar
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> > Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 9:01 AM
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> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
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> > Subject: [Vantage] Re: MES touchscreen monitors
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> > We are in the process of deciding whether to use touch or not. Initially, we thought it would be a no brainier and touch would be the way to go. Now I am reconsidering that position. Is is possible to create a poll on this forum to see what the group thinks overall?
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> > --- In mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com, "Vic Drecchio" <vic.drecchio@> wrote:
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> > > I agree with Tony. As much as one would think the users would like the touchscreens, I’ve found that the shop floor employees find them cumbersome. They prefer the mouse and keyboard. You can buy two nice desktop PC’s for the price of one touchscreen all-in-one POS-style PC.
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> > > Director of Information Technology
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> > > Swepco Tube
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> > > One Clifton Blvd, Clifton, NJ 07011
>
> > >
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> > > Email: vic.drecchio@
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> > > Mobile: (704) 530-3092
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> > > From: Tony Hughes
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> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 5:18 PM
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> > > To: mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com
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> > > Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: MES touchscreen monitors
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> > > Truthfully, we hate them. The screen must be constantly recalibrated, and using a finger for things like click-drag to highlight text, or clicking on a combo box drop down, or tapping in to a box and trying to position a cursor at a particular point... very frustrating for guys on the shop floor.
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> > > We gave up and put mouse/keyboard on each of them.
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I don't know about the MES screens since we are using the Labor Collector and Gateway modules from Vantage 6.1 and it takes less than 10 seconds to clock in or out of jobs with the touch screen (much faster than using a keyboard and mouse). We originally had CRT touch screens on the shop floor but as they have become harder to find, they've been replaced now with LCD ones. I was a little concerned with the light weight of the LCD being knocked over with a user's heavy touch, but that hasn't happened so far.



Michael Podlin
Network Administrator

V-S Industries, Inc.
900 S. Chaddick Dr.
Wheeling, IL 60090
847-520-1800 x207
Fax 847-520-0269
Michael.Podlin@...




Please consider the environment.
Do you really need to print this email?
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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Vonderhaar
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 8:02 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: MES touchscreen monitors




We are in the process of deciding whether to use touch or not. Initially, we thought it would be a no brainier and touch would be the way to go. Now I am reconsidering that position. Is is possible to create a poll on this forum to see what the group thinks overall?

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Vic Drecchio" <vic.drecchio@...> wrote:
>
> I agree with Tony. As much as one would think the users would like the touchscreens, Iâ?Tve found that the shop floor employees find them cumbersome. They prefer the mouse and keyboard. You can buy two nice desktop PCâ?Ts for the price of one touchscreen all-in-one POS-style PC.
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> Vic Drecchio
> Director of Information Technology
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> Swepco Tube
> One Clifton Blvd, Clifton, NJ 07011
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> Email: vic.drecchio@...
> Mobile: (704) 530-3092
>
>
> From: Tony Hughes
> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 5:18 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: MES touchscreen monitors
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>
> Truthfully, we hate them. The screen must be constantly recalibrated, and using a finger for things like click-drag to highlight text, or clicking on a combo box drop down, or tapping in to a box and trying to position a cursor at a particular point... very frustrating for guys on the shop floor.
> We gave up and put mouse/keyboard on each of them.
> Plus, consider the cost. The touchscreens are roughly 3 to 4 times the cost of equivalent PC. At the time we bought them 3 yrs ago, they were over $2,000.
> Hope that input helps at all.
>
> In mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com, Nelson Dufour <ndufour@> wrote:
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> >
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> > Hi Everyone,
>
> > Just looking at touchscreen monitors for our mes stations(winxp
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> > pc's)...anyone have any suggestions?
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> > I.S. Services Mgr.
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We are buying the Asus All in one PC's for $550 with windows 7 pro.


Thats a pretty good deal.




On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 08:10:25 -0400
"Vic Drecchio" <vic.drecchio@...> wrote:
I agree with Tony. As much as one would think the users
would like the touchscreens, I’ve found that the shop
floor employees find them cumbersome. They prefer the
mouse and keyboard. You can buy two nice desktop PC’s for
the price of one touchscreen all-in-one POS-style PC.


Vic Drecchio
Director of Information Technology

Swepco Tube
One Clifton Blvd, Clifton, NJ 07011

Email: vic.drecchio@...
Mobile: (704) 530-3092


From: Tony Hughes
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 5:18 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: MES touchscreen monitors


Truthfully, we hate them. The screen must be constantly
recalibrated, and using a finger for things like
click-drag to highlight text, or clicking on a combo box
drop down, or tapping in to a box and trying to position a
cursor at a particular point... very frustrating for guys
on the shop floor.
We gave up and put mouse/keyboard on each of them.
Plus, consider the cost. The touchscreens are roughly 3
to 4 times the cost of equivalent PC. At the time we
bought them 3 yrs ago, they were over $2,000.
Hope that input helps at all.

In mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com, Nelson Dufour
<ndufour@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Everyone,

> Just looking at touchscreen monitors for our mes
>stations(winxp

> pc's)...anyone have any suggestions?

> Thanks in advance,

>

> --

>

> Nelson L. Dufour

> I.S. Services Mgr.

> 1691 Walker Rd.

> Windsor, ON. N8W 3P1

> 519-253-2461 313-965-8680

> Fax: 519-253-5911

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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That’s a good deal but it’s not a touchscreen, too, is it?

From: Nick
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 12:05 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: MES touchscreen monitors


We are buying the Asus All in one PC's for $550 with windows 7 pro.

Thats a pretty good deal.

On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 08:10:25 -0400
"Vic Drecchio" <mailto:vic.drecchio%40swepcotube.com> wrote:
I agree with Tony. As much as one would think the users
would like the touchscreens, I’ve found that the shop
floor employees find them cumbersome. They prefer the
mouse and keyboard. You can buy two nice desktop PC’s for
the price of one touchscreen all-in-one POS-style PC.

Vic Drecchio
Director of Information Technology

Swepco Tube
One Clifton Blvd, Clifton, NJ 07011

Email: mailto:vic.drecchio%40swepcotube.com
Mobile: (704) 530-3092

From: Tony Hughes
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 5:18 PM
To: mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: MES touchscreen monitors

Truthfully, we hate them. The screen must be constantly
recalibrated, and using a finger for things like
click-drag to highlight text, or clicking on a combo box
drop down, or tapping in to a box and trying to position a
cursor at a particular point... very frustrating for guys
on the shop floor.
We gave up and put mouse/keyboard on each of them.
Plus, consider the cost. The touchscreens are roughly 3
to 4 times the cost of equivalent PC. At the time we
bought them 3 yrs ago, they were over $2,000.
Hope that input helps at all.

In mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com, Nelson Dufour
<ndufour@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Everyone,

> Just looking at touchscreen monitors for our mes
>stations(winxp

> pc's)...anyone have any suggestions?

> Thanks in advance,

>

> --

>

> Nelson L. Dufour

> I.S. Services Mgr.

> 1691 Walker Rd.

> Windsor, ON. N8W 3P1

> 519-253-2461 313-965-8680

> Fax: 519-253-5911

>

>

>

>

>

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oh but it is. touchscreen and fancy.




On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:24:28 -0400
"Vic Drecchio" <vic.drecchio@...> wrote:
That’s a good deal but it’s not a touchscreen, too, is
it?

From: Nick
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 12:05 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: MES touchscreen monitors


We are buying the Asus All in one PC's for $550 with
windows 7 pro.

Thats a pretty good deal.

On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 08:10:25 -0400
"Vic Drecchio" <mailto:vic.drecchio%40swepcotube.com>
wrote:
I agree with Tony. As much as one would think the users
would like the touchscreens, I’ve found that the shop
floor employees find them cumbersome. They prefer the
mouse and keyboard. You can buy two nice desktop PC’s for
the price of one touchscreen all-in-one POS-style PC.

Vic Drecchio
Director of Information Technology

Swepco Tube
One Clifton Blvd, Clifton, NJ 07011

Email: mailto:vic.drecchio%40swepcotube.com
Mobile: (704) 530-3092

From: Tony Hughes
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 5:18 PM
To: mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: MES touchscreen monitors

Truthfully, we hate them. The screen must be constantly
recalibrated, and using a finger for things like
click-drag to highlight text, or clicking on a combo box
drop down, or tapping in to a box and trying to position
a
cursor at a particular point... very frustrating for guys
on the shop floor.
We gave up and put mouse/keyboard on each of them.
Plus, consider the cost. The touchscreens are roughly 3
to 4 times the cost of equivalent PC. At the time we
bought them 3 yrs ago, they were over $2,000.
Hope that input helps at all.

In mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com, Nelson Dufour
<ndufour@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Everyone,

> Just looking at touchscreen monitors for our mes
>stations(winxp

> pc's)...anyone have any suggestions?

> Thanks in advance,

>

> --

>

> Nelson L. Dufour

> I.S. Services Mgr.

> 1691 Walker Rd.

> Windsor, ON. N8W 3P1

> 519-253-2461 313-965-8680

> Fax: 519-253-5911

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

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Very nice. Good to know.

From: Nick
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 12:26 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: MES touchscreen monitors


oh but it is. touchscreen and fancy.

On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:24:28 -0400
"Vic Drecchio" <mailto:vic.drecchio%40swepcotube.com> wrote:
That’s a good deal but it’s not a touchscreen, too, is
it?

From: Nick
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 12:05 PM
To: mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: MES touchscreen monitors

We are buying the Asus All in one PC's for $550 with
windows 7 pro.

Thats a pretty good deal.

On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 08:10:25 -0400
"Vic Drecchio" <mailto:vic.drecchio%40swepcotube.com>
wrote:
I agree with Tony. As much as one would think the users
would like the touchscreens, I’ve found that the shop
floor employees find them cumbersome. They prefer the
mouse and keyboard. You can buy two nice desktop PC’s for
the price of one touchscreen all-in-one POS-style PC.

Vic Drecchio
Director of Information Technology

Swepco Tube
One Clifton Blvd, Clifton, NJ 07011

Email: mailto:vic.drecchio%40swepcotube.com
Mobile: (704) 530-3092

From: Tony Hughes
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 5:18 PM
To: mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: MES touchscreen monitors

Truthfully, we hate them. The screen must be constantly
recalibrated, and using a finger for things like
click-drag to highlight text, or clicking on a combo box
drop down, or tapping in to a box and trying to position
a
cursor at a particular point... very frustrating for guys
on the shop floor.
We gave up and put mouse/keyboard on each of them.
Plus, consider the cost. The touchscreens are roughly 3
to 4 times the cost of equivalent PC. At the time we
bought them 3 yrs ago, they were over $2,000.
Hope that input helps at all.

In mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com, Nelson Dufour
<ndufour@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Everyone,

> Just looking at touchscreen monitors for our mes
>stations(winxp

> pc's)...anyone have any suggestions?

> Thanks in advance,

>

> --

>

> Nelson L. Dufour

> I.S. Services Mgr.

> 1691 Walker Rd.

> Windsor, ON. N8W 3P1

> 519-253-2461 313-965-8680

> Fax: 519-253-5911

>

>

>

>

>

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we are also in the middle of running benchmarks using the performance tool
to see if SSD drives make any difference.




On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:28:57 -0400
"Vic Drecchio" <vic.drecchio@...> wrote:
Very nice. Good to know.

From: Nick
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 12:26 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: MES touchscreen monitors


oh but it is. touchscreen and fancy.

On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:24:28 -0400
"Vic Drecchio" <mailto:vic.drecchio%40swepcotube.com>
wrote:
That’s a good deal but it’s not a touchscreen, too, is
it?

From: Nick
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 12:05 PM
To: mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: MES touchscreen monitors

We are buying the Asus All in one PC's for $550 with
windows 7 pro.

Thats a pretty good deal.

On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 08:10:25 -0400
"Vic Drecchio" <mailto:vic.drecchio%40swepcotube.com>
wrote:
I agree with Tony. As much as one would think the users
would like the touchscreens, I’ve found that the shop
floor employees find them cumbersome. They prefer the
mouse and keyboard. You can buy two nice desktop PC’s for
the price of one touchscreen all-in-one POS-style PC.

Vic Drecchio
Director of Information Technology

Swepco Tube
One Clifton Blvd, Clifton, NJ 07011

Email: mailto:vic.drecchio%40swepcotube.com
Mobile: (704) 530-3092

From: Tony Hughes
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 5:18 PM
To: mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: MES touchscreen monitors

Truthfully, we hate them. The screen must be constantly
recalibrated, and using a finger for things like
click-drag to highlight text, or clicking on a combo box
drop down, or tapping in to a box and trying to position
a
cursor at a particular point... very frustrating for guys
on the shop floor.
We gave up and put mouse/keyboard on each of them.
Plus, consider the cost. The touchscreens are roughly 3
to 4 times the cost of equivalent PC. At the time we
bought them 3 yrs ago, they were over $2,000.
Hope that input helps at all.

In mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com, Nelson Dufour
<ndufour@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Everyone,

> Just looking at touchscreen monitors for our mes
>stations(winxp

> pc's)...anyone have any suggestions?

> Thanks in advance,

>

> --

>

> Nelson L. Dufour

> I.S. Services Mgr.

> 1691 Walker Rd.

> Windsor, ON. N8W 3P1

> 519-253-2461 313-965-8680

> Fax: 519-253-5911

>

>

>

>

>

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