[Off Topic] Hard drives

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Paul,
Maybe WD has changed there RMA policy. I've always gotten a 'refub.' for my warranty returns on bad WD. Then the refurb. goes bad after that.

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics

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Todd,

Personally I don't have the best experience with Western Digital drives, and
especially the unreliable bearings they use. As the matter of fact, the
only drives I have seen and heard failing are the WD Caviars. Usually you
will get the louder than normal whine, grinding and clicking. From what you
describe and my experiences you still have a few days to get your important
data off of the drive, but don't wait too long.

In WD's defense; their RMA department has gotten extremely efficient in
replacing failed HD's with blank new ones. Even for failed drives that were
waaay outside of the warranty period.


HTH,

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 3:55 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Hard drives

Anyone have any experience with Western Digital 120gb, 7200 rpm IDE drives?

Just received one and it sounds like a tiny router buzzing away ... from
across the room.

I'm trying to decide if this is the nature of the beast ...

Thanks,

Todd Anderson




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Anyone have any experience with Western Digital 120gb, 7200 rpm IDE drives?

Just received one and it sounds like a tiny router buzzing away ... from
across the room.

I'm trying to decide if this is the nature of the beast ...

Thanks,

Todd Anderson
3
I've got two of them and one sounds like a miniature airplane tacking off
and the other doesn't. You can read about it here:
http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_sid=RCCVps
wg&p_lva=&p_faqid=568&p_created=1033495201&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9ncmlkc29ydD0m
cF9yb3dfY250PTE1JnBfc2VhcmNoX3RleHQ9bm9pc2UmcF9zZWFyY2hfdHlwZT00JnBfY2F0X2x2
bDE9fmFueX4mcF9jYXRfbHZsMj1_YW55fiZwX3NvcnRfYnk9ZGZsdCZwX3BhZ2U9MQ**&p_li=

I know that is a long one and I hope it helps.

Ted Kitch
ted@...

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Anyone have any experience with Western Digital 120gb, 7200 rpm IDE drives?

Just received one and it sounds like a tiny router buzzing away ... from
across the room.

I'm trying to decide if this is the nature of the beast ...

Thanks,

Todd Anderson




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Todd,
I just plain won't buy a WD drive anymore.

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics

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Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 4:55 PM
Subject: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Hard drives


Anyone have any experience with Western Digital 120gb, 7200 rpm IDE drives?

Just received one and it sounds like a tiny router buzzing away ... from
across the room.

I'm trying to decide if this is the nature of the beast ...

Thanks,

Todd Anderson

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Sell it to Jasper on the "Sub Account" thread, sounds like he is starting a
woodshop.

Patrick:)

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 3:55 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Hard drives


Anyone have any experience with Western Digital 120gb, 7200 rpm IDE drives?

Just received one and it sounds like a tiny router buzzing away ... from
across the room.

I'm trying to decide if this is the nature of the beast ...

Thanks,

Todd Anderson


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Todd,

Personally I don't have the best experience with Western Digital drives, and
especially the unreliable bearings they use. As the matter of fact, the
only drives I have seen and heard failing are the WD Caviars. Usually you
will get the louder than normal whine, grinding and clicking. From what you
describe and my experiences you still have a few days to get your important
data off of the drive, but don't wait too long.

In WD's defense; their RMA department has gotten extremely efficient in
replacing failed HD's with blank new ones. Even for failed drives that were
waaay outside of the warranty period.


HTH,

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 3:55 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Hard drives

Anyone have any experience with Western Digital 120gb, 7200 rpm IDE drives?

Just received one and it sounds like a tiny router buzzing away ... from
across the room.

I'm trying to decide if this is the nature of the beast ...

Thanks,

Todd Anderson
7
Todd,

I have a couple of Quantums & IBMs in a 9GB SCSI flavor, and they do the
same thing. It's driving the engineers crazy. Thank Heavens they're
finally out of warranty. When they break, I'll buy new Seagates.

Dan Maddox
Pactiv Corp

At 03:55 PM 12/10/02 -0600, you wrote:
>Anyone have any experience with Western Digital 120gb, 7200 rpm IDE drives?
>
>Just received one and it sounds like a tiny router buzzing away ... from
>across the room.
>
>I'm trying to decide if this is the nature of the beast ...
>
>Thanks,
>
>Todd Anderson
>
>
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8
Ha Ha Ha ...

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From: Winter, Patrick [mailto:pjw@...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 7:43 AM
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Sell it to Jasper on the "Sub Account" thread, sounds like he is starting a
woodshop.

Patrick:)

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From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
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Subject: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Hard drives


Anyone have any experience with Western Digital 120gb, 7200 rpm IDE drives?

Just received one and it sounds like a tiny router buzzing away ... from
across the room.

I'm trying to decide if this is the nature of the beast ...

Thanks,

Todd Anderson


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Todd,

I've just gone thru 4 of them. They wouldn't work in a RAID5 array. They
all seem to run hot. And the first one died completely. The last 2 seem to
function. I'm trying buying Maxtor now. I'm told they have a better return
policy than Western Digital. As far as the buzzing - haven't noticed that.
But I'm really wondering whose drives actually work anymore. Even I can
ship anyone a quadzillion terrabyte drive - if I don't have to guarantee
it'll work. MTBF = :)

Gary Polvinale
Denton ATD
Milan OH

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 4:55 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Hard drives


Anyone have any experience with Western Digital 120gb, 7200 rpm IDE drives?

Just received one and it sounds like a tiny router buzzing away ... from
across the room.

I'm trying to decide if this is the nature of the beast ...

Thanks,

Todd Anderson


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10
Quantum has proven to be a very good drive. It's actually as it turns out a
high end Maxtor. Which is my Hard drive of choice.

Shirley

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Polvinale [mailto:garyp@...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 10:41 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Hard drives

Todd,

I've just gone thru 4 of them. They wouldn't work in a RAID5 array. They
all seem to run hot. And the first one died completely. The last 2 seem to
function. I'm trying buying Maxtor now. I'm told they have a better return
policy than Western Digital. As far as the buzzing - haven't noticed that.
But I'm really wondering whose drives actually work anymore. Even I can
ship anyone a quadzillion terrabyte drive - if I don't have to guarantee
it'll work. MTBF = :)

Gary Polvinale
Denton ATD
Milan OH

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 4:55 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Hard drives


Anyone have any experience with Western Digital 120gb, 7200 rpm IDE drives?

Just received one and it sounds like a tiny router buzzing away ... from
across the room.

I'm trying to decide if this is the nature of the beast ...

Thanks,

Todd Anderson


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I bought one for my home pc. $139 at Micro Center. Works fine ...so far.
No weird noises.

As a rule though, I will not buy WD for the company. Maxtor, Seagate,
possibly Quantum.

Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 4:55 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
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Anyone have any experience with Western Digital 120gb, 7200 rpm IDE
drives?

Just received one and it sounds like a tiny router buzzing away ... from
across the room.

I'm trying to decide if this is the nature of the beast ...

Thanks,

Todd Anderson

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Todd,

As the rest of the responses, as a general rule, we also will not buy
Western Digital. At one time, that is all we would purchase, but we
have had them fail 85% of the time. We currently purchase Seagates
Barracuda.


Happy Holidays,


Dina Hieber
Vamco International, Inc.
(412) 963-7100 Phone
(412) 963-9511 Fax

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 4:55 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Hard drives

Anyone have any experience with Western Digital 120gb, 7200 rpm IDE
drives?

Just received one and it sounds like a tiny router buzzing away ... from
across the room.

I'm trying to decide if this is the nature of the beast ...

Thanks,

Todd Anderson


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Your a pretty funny guy. You should be in standup!

-----Original Message-----
From: Winter, Patrick [mailto:pjw@...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 8:43 AM
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Sell it to Jasper on the "Sub Account" thread, sounds like he is
starting a
woodshop.

Patrick:)

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 3:55 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Hard drives


Anyone have any experience with Western Digital 120gb, 7200 rpm IDE
drives?

Just received one and it sounds like a tiny router buzzing away ... from
across the room.

I'm trying to decide if this is the nature of the beast ...

Thanks,

Todd Anderson


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