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Jason Claggett wrote:
> We have a number of companies using Postini representing probably close to a thousand users (I'm guessing). It is fantastic! The flexibility you receive from this server is bar none. There are some steps involved in initial setup, but it captures pretty much all the SPAM out there - and it is seamless and gives end users some control over their settings, aliases and white-list/black-list.

We've been using a similar service from AppRiver.com for 4 or 5 years
with very good results:
http://www.appriver.com/secureTide/system-overview.asp

They're about $10 per user/year; postini suggests they're $25. I would
be very adverse to trusting Google with my email due to privacy
concerns... considering one of their big revenue streams (gmail) is
storing, scanning and targeting advertising based on the content of
~your~ messages.

-Wayne
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Based on past recommendations from this group I am looking at email spam filtering via Postini. Since installing Exch 2007 SP1 our Open relay Filter (ORF) product has has a very high rate of false positives. Something broke in it.

Are there any notable issues in setting up Postini or gotchas I should be aware of?

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.



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I've used Postini in the past but now use a product Sprint (I think they
are reselling a Microsoft service) offered for spam filtering. I was
cheaper than Postini and it spools email for 30 days. You can change
almost any setting yourself, including how aggressive you want your
filter to be (if you're the admin), you can apply rules to let specific
domains or addresses through, etc. through their portal and they offer
numerous reports. When we had Postini (years ago) we were not able to
configure anything ourselves we always had to place a call.



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 4:20 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Postini








Based on past recommendations from this group I am looking at email spam
filtering via Postini. Since installing Exch 2007 SP1 our Open relay
Filter (ORF) product has has a very high rate of false positives.
Something broke in it.

Are there any notable issues in setting up Postini or gotchas I should
be aware of?

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.

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I've been going through the Postini Admin Guide (online, printed is 636 pages) and from what I can see it is highly configurable...almost too much so. A little overwhelming. Maybe is has changed since becoming part of the Googlescape.

Right now I am nailing down details about the setup process and about re-pointing our domain MX records to route via the Postini servers. Also trying to nail down how they define users. We have a bunch who are not allowed to receive/send external email and I don't want to pay for these. Also what level of user control I want to allow. Only bummer issue I've seen so far is having to manually enter all the mail addresses. But I think I can dump a list from Exchange to a txt file and cut/paste that in. Maybe.

-Todd C.


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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alison Levy
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 11:12 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Postini




I've used Postini in the past but now use a product Sprint (I think they
are reselling a Microsoft service) offered for spam filtering. I was
cheaper than Postini and it spools email for 30 days. You can change
almost any setting yourself, including how aggressive you want your
filter to be (if you're the admin), you can apply rules to let specific
domains or addresses through, etc. through their portal and they offer
numerous reports. When we had Postini (years ago) we were not able to
configure anything ourselves we always had to place a call.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 4:20 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Postini

Based on past recommendations from this group I am looking at email spam
filtering via Postini. Since installing Exch 2007 SP1 our Open relay
Filter (ORF) product has has a very high rate of false positives.
Something broke in it.

Are there any notable issues in setting up Postini or gotchas I should
be aware of?

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.

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User list can be imported from a txt file. Also the Postini (Google) they
we use has 5 aliases per user. If you use common configuration and dump the
spam into a general setup you can use the aliases to pass other mail
accounts through one users account.

Steve
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From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: June 09, 2009 3:59 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Postini





I've been going through the Postini Admin Guide (online, printed is 636
pages) and from what I can see it is highly configurable...almost too much
so. A little overwhelming. Maybe is has changed since becoming part of the
Googlescape.

Right now I am nailing down details about the setup process and about
re-pointing our domain MX records to route via the Postini servers. Also
trying to nail down how they define users. We have a bunch who are not
allowed to receive/send external email and I don't want to pay for these.
Also what level of user control I want to allow. Only bummer issue I've seen
so far is having to manually enter all the mail addresses. But I think I can
dump a list from Exchange to a txt file and cut/paste that in. Maybe.

-Todd C.

________________________________
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Alison Levy
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 11:12 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Postini

I've used Postini in the past but now use a product Sprint (I think they
are reselling a Microsoft service) offered for spam filtering. I was
cheaper than Postini and it spools email for 30 days. You can change
almost any setting yourself, including how aggressive you want your
filter to be (if you're the admin), you can apply rules to let specific
domains or addresses through, etc. through their portal and they offer
numerous reports. When we had Postini (years ago) we were not able to
configure anything ourselves we always had to place a call.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 4:20 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Postini

Based on past recommendations from this group I am looking at email spam
filtering via Postini. Since installing Exch 2007 SP1 our Open relay
Filter (ORF) product has has a very high rate of false positives.
Something broke in it.

Are there any notable issues in setting up Postini or gotchas I should
be aware of?

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.

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Todd,

We have a number of companies using Postini representing probably close to a thousand users (I'm guessing). It is fantastic! The flexibility you receive from this server is bar none. There are some steps involved in initial setup, but it captures pretty much all the SPAM out there - and it is seamless and gives end users some control over their settings, aliases and white-list/black-list.

A couple of things that we've seen is if you have non-account bouncing set to "on" then any users NOT in Postini will get email rejected to the sender. Also, what we recommend is using the Postini SMTP servers for relaying and securing the inbound "listener" to only the published Postini IP address ranges (see the admin guide for setup). This will dramatically cut down your internet bandwidth being consumed by those annoying hackers.

If you have any questions along the way, feel free to contact me off list and I'll be glad to work with you.

Thanks,

Jason Claggett
Microsoft Small Business Specialist
MCP #3856159
2W Technologies, LLC
312.533.4033 x8039
jason@...<mailto:jason@...>



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One other thing I forgot to mention is the ability to alias multiple domains. If you have multiple domains hosted by same email server and that also have the same email, you can alias it to the parent domain (i.e. .com/.net users will all use the same email filter). Also, if you have multiple domains hosted by the same email server, but have different users (big for multi company), you can use Postini for that - unfortunately, you will have to create users for the second domain - not sure of the cost, but it is possible.

Jason Claggett
Microsoft Small Business Specialist
MCP #3856159
2W Technologies, LLC
312.533.4033 x8039
jason@...<mailto:jason@...>



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