OT Spam relief

I find the best way to treat phone spam at home is to ask the caller to wait
while you answer the door, place the handset next to the phone and replace
the receiver later that night just before you retire for the night or when
they've given up. I always return junk snail mail if the reply is pre-paid.
E-mailing spammers a nice large encrypted file seems to slow their servers
and help support fellow IT personnel maintain their jobs.

Chris


-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Funte [mailto:tfunte@...]
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 4:22 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] OT Spam relief


I tried this and it said my name was not on their server. I wonder if it is
NOW.

On the phone spam digression... I have found that if a salesperson calls on
the phone, a simple "excuse me sir... excuse me sir (it takes a few of these
to stop the flow of reading off the page)... excuse me sir. Will you take
my name off your list?".... (silence)... "Ah, yes (begins reading another
script)... we would be glad to take your name off our list so that you will
never be called again. It may take a few weeks to take effect, so if you do
get another call just tell them you are not interested. So sorry to bother
you."

By law, they CANNOT call you again without severe penalties if you ask to be
removed from their list. I used to just say, "I'm not interested", after
which they would keep talking another few lines and I would have to
interrupt again. Then they would say, "I'll call back at a more convenient
time."

Use the words, "Take my name and number off your list."

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics
I just found (more or less by mistake) out of frustration a company that
handles much of the spam we receive. They have a global unsubscribe and
block feature that I thought I would pass on.
I have just cut (in one day) the amount of spam I get by half by banning my
address from their system and therefore all their customers. I thought I
would pass the site on to others because it worked so well for me.

http://www.em5000.com/unsuball.php

This is the address of the global remove site and I recommend using the
check box to "ban" your address from their system.
No this is not the miracle cure for spam, but as I said, it cut my junk by
at least half in one day.
Just thought I would pass on the info incase anyone here was on their list
as well.
Good luck,

Aaron Hoyt
Information Systems Manager
Design Standards Corp.
PO Box 1620
Charlestown, NH 03603
Tel 603-826-7744
<mailto:aaron.hoyt@...>
Aaron, could you please keep us posted over the course of a week or two to
be sure your reduction in spam continues? I would like to try this but am
very leary of any "remove" or "opt out" options. Most of the time this
results in far more spam as the spammer you are opting out of sells your
address as a "live one" to other spammers. There may be in initial decrease
and then as the "buyers" start using your address you get a new flood of
spam.

Ever since I used my email address as the "contact" for our web site
promotion efforts (MSN, Yahoo, Lycos, etc..) my spam rate has exploded.
70-80 junk messages a day and filtering them to a Junk folder only catches
about 25% of them. I really hope this "ban" option works for you. Thanks
for trying it.
-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: Aaron Hoyt [mailto:aaron@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:56 AM
To: 'Vantage E-Group (E-mail) ' (E-mail)
Subject: [Vantage] OT Spam relief


I just found (more or less by mistake) out of frustration a company that
handles much of the spam we receive. They have a global unsubscribe and
block feature that I thought I would pass on.
I have just cut (in one day) the amount of spam I get by half by banning my
address from their system and therefore all their customers. I thought I
would pass the site on to others because it worked so well for me.

http://www.em5000.com/unsuball.php <http://www.em5000.com/unsuball.php>

This is the address of the global remove site and I recommend using the
check box to "ban" your address from their system.
No this is not the miracle cure for spam, but as I said, it cut my junk by
at least half in one day.
Just thought I would pass on the info incase anyone here was on their list
as well.
Good luck,

Aaron Hoyt
Information Systems Manager
Design Standards Corp.
PO Box 1620
Charlestown, NH 03603
Tel 603-826-7744
<mailto:aaron.hoyt@...>





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I've had excellent results with mailwasher. http://www.mailwasher.net It
pre-filters your mail, sets up rejection lists, bounces your address to
identified senders, blacklists others, etc... And hey, free is best.

Michael

Michael Barry
Aspacia Systems Inc
866.566.9600
312.803.0730 fax
http://www.aspacia.com/

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:14 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT Spam relief


Aaron, could you please keep us posted over the course of a week or two to
be sure your reduction in spam continues? I would like to try this but am
very leary of any "remove" or "opt out" options. Most of the time this
results in far more spam as the spammer you are opting out of sells your
address as a "live one" to other spammers. There may be in initial decrease
and then as the "buyers" start using your address you get a new flood of
spam.

Ever since I used my email address as the "contact" for our web site
promotion efforts (MSN, Yahoo, Lycos, etc..) my spam rate has exploded.
70-80 junk messages a day and filtering them to a Junk folder only catches
about 25% of them. I really hope this "ban" option works for you. Thanks
for trying it.
-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: Aaron Hoyt [mailto:aaron@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:56 AM
To: 'Vantage E-Group (E-mail) ' (E-mail)
Subject: [Vantage] OT Spam relief


I just found (more or less by mistake) out of frustration a company that
handles much of the spam we receive. They have a global unsubscribe and
block feature that I thought I would pass on.
I have just cut (in one day) the amount of spam I get by half by banning my
address from their system and therefore all their customers. I thought I
would pass the site on to others because it worked so well for me.

http://www.em5000.com/unsuball.php <http://www.em5000.com/unsuball.php>

This is the address of the global remove site and I recommend using the
check box to "ban" your address from their system.
No this is not the miracle cure for spam, but as I said, it cut my junk by
at least half in one day.
Just thought I would pass on the info incase anyone here was on their list
as well.
Good luck,

Aaron Hoyt
Information Systems Manager
Design Standards Corp.
PO Box 1620
Charlestown, NH 03603
Tel 603-826-7744
<mailto:aaron.hoyt@...>





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At 09:14 AM 3/27/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>Ever since I used my email address as the "contact" for our web site
>promotion efforts (MSN, Yahoo, Lycos, etc..) my spam rate has exploded.
>70-80 junk messages a day and filtering them to a Junk folder only catches
>about 25% of them. I really hope this "ban" option works for you. Thanks

I've made some very satisfying anti-spam progress lately that might be of
help, too. We have good ol' sendmail (unix SMTP server) running back at
USAero, as well as the place I am now. It has lots of options to reject
things, based on local lists or remote services. I'd hadn't used any of
the remote black-lists in the past, because I'd heard many were too heavy
handed in rejecting things, or neglected to de-list servers after problems
were corrected. I did have a manually compiled list of IPs and domains
that rejected a good portion but far from all (contact me off list for a copy.)

Well, within the last couple weeks spam got so thick, I started using two
services:

ORDB.Org - Maintains DB of SMTP servers mis-configured as open relays,
allowing spammers to abuse them. Automatic testing adds any server
reported that tests bad, as well as promptly de-lists fixed servers.

SpamCop.Net - Maintains DB of spam sources based on reports. Quickly
blacklists servers as reports roll in, and automatically de-lists them when
they stop.

Both of these are services that you configure your email server to query as
each piece of email comes in, so you're always working with up to the
minute data. Email is rejected at the server, before the body of the
message is transmitted, so no additional resources are wasted at the server
or email client. So far, I haven't seen anything in the reject logs that
we would have wanted to get :) This has sliced our spam down to less that
5 PERCENT of what we were previously receiving!!!

-Wayne Cox
Twenty Three -- Information Technology Consulting
828-685-2338
>>Aaron, could you please keep us posted over the course of a week or two to
be sure your reduction in spam continues?

I would be happy to do just that. The reason I passed it on was the fact
that it stopped all mail going to a couple of addresses I use as junk mail
dummy accounts (register at websites, where required, with one of them and
then filter them for anything of value). I will monitor these addresses to
see if they make it onto other lists and start filling up again.
Thanks for the other tips as well...

Aaron Hoyt
Information Systems Manager
Design Standards Corp.
PO Box 1620
Charlestown, NH 03603
Tel 603-826-7744
<mailto:aaron.hoyt@...>
Well after a full week, I have had great success with this removal site. It
turns out their site was responsible for more than 80% of my junk mail.
They have stopped more like 99% of junk mail that was not from an
identifiable reputable business that I signed up with understanding that I
would get periodic offers. So after one week, I am still happy with the
results of getting off this list.
The only thing that I am unhappy with is that they moved the removal site.
I left one address on their system as a comparison and have found that the
volume did not change on that address. All others have been reduced by
about 80%. I went back to remove that last address and had to search for
the removal page again. So, for those still interested...
http://web2.em5000.com/unsuball.php
the new link to their removal page. If you choose to use it, don't forget
the check box for banning your address.
Good luck.

Aaron

-----Original Message-----
From: Aaron Hoyt [mailto:aaron@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 1:21 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT Spam relief


>>Aaron, could you please keep us posted over the course of a week or two to
be sure your reduction in spam continues?

I would be happy to do just that. The reason I passed it on was the fact
that it stopped all mail going to a couple of addresses I use as junk mail
dummy accounts (register at websites, where required, with one of them and
then filter them for anything of value). I will monitor these addresses to
see if they make it onto other lists and start filling up again.
Thanks for the other tips as well...

Aaron Hoyt
Information Systems Manager
Design Standards Corp.
PO Box 1620
Charlestown, NH 03603
Tel 603-826-7744
<mailto:aaron.hoyt@...>
I tried this and it said my name was not on their server. I wonder if it is NOW.

On the phone spam digression... I have found that if a salesperson calls on the phone, a simple "excuse me sir... excuse me sir (it takes a few of these to stop the flow of reading off the page)... excuse me sir. Will you take my name off your list?".... (silence)... "Ah, yes (begins reading another script)... we would be glad to take your name off our list so that you will never be called again. It may take a few weeks to take effect, so if you do get another call just tell them you are not interested. So sorry to bother you."

By law, they CANNOT call you again without severe penalties if you ask to be removed from their list. I used to just say, "I'm not interested", after which they would keep talking another few lines and I would have to interrupt again. Then they would say, "I'll call back at a more convenient time."

Use the words, "Take my name and number off your list."

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics



----- Original Message -----
From: Aaron Hoyt
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 8:39 AM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT Spam relief


Well after a full week, I have had great success with this removal site. It
turns out their site was responsible for more than 80% of my junk mail.
They have stopped more like 99% of junk mail that was not from an
identifiable reputable business that I signed up with understanding that I
would get periodic offers. So after one week, I am still happy with the
results of getting off this list.
The only thing that I am unhappy with is that they moved the removal site.
I left one address on their system as a comparison and have found that the
volume did not change on that address. All others have been reduced by
about 80%. I went back to remove that last address and had to search for
the removal page again. So, for those still interested...
http://web2.em5000.com/unsuball.php
the new link to their removal page. If you choose to use it, don't forget
the check box for banning your address.
Good luck.

Aaron

-----Original Message-----
From: Aaron Hoyt [mailto:aaron@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 1:21 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT Spam relief


>>Aaron, could you please keep us posted over the course of a week or two to
be sure your reduction in spam continues?

I would be happy to do just that. The reason I passed it on was the fact
that it stopped all mail going to a couple of addresses I use as junk mail
dummy accounts (register at websites, where required, with one of them and
then filter them for anything of value). I will monitor these addresses to
see if they make it onto other lists and start filling up again.
Thanks for the other tips as well...

Aaron Hoyt
Information Systems Manager
Design Standards Corp.
PO Box 1620
Charlestown, NH 03603
Tel 603-826-7744
<mailto:aaron.hoyt@...>



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(2) To search through old msg's goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
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