Over Quantity issue

We have a BPM for that too!

 

Miguel A. Santillan

Compass Manufacturing Systems

 

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2015 7:04 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Over Quantity issue

 

 

i figured out why my warnings were not working.  The previous operation needed to be completed.  **SIGH**

 

 

On Friday, October 9, 2015 9:10 AM, "jenn.lisser@... [vantage]" <vantage@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

 

If you go into Shop Warning, there is a checkbox to report in Data Collection. When I was in 9.05 I had both data collection and labor entry checked and it would work in MES but not time entry.  I thought labor and time was the same thing.  Maybe we had a different problem, it's been I while.

 



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We had an issue with an operation being completed for over quantity with no alert it was over quantity.  I tested in my training and completed a operation over the Job Quantity...no message.  I don't see an alert in Global Alert.  Any one know why this is allowed to happen.  What are others doing to prevent this?  BPM??
 
thanks Kim

There are warning messages but that is what it is, a warning.  Look under Shop warnings.  This issue has always been there since version 3 if not longer…..BPM would be the way to go.

Manasa

 

 

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Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2015 9:11 AM
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We had an issue with an operation being completed for over quantity with no alert it was over quantity.  I tested in my training and completed a operation over the Job Quantity...no message.  I don't see an alert in Global Alert.  Any one know why this is allowed to happen.  What are others doing to prevent this?  BPM??

 

thanks Kim

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I contacted Epicor about something like this in E10 , and they had a fix for it. You might try asking them as well.
I find it in the shop warnings and we have it set to keep track in the Shop Tracker but no pop up comes up on the user end.
 
Does it matter if they use MES or Office MES??



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There are warning messages but that is what it is, a warning.  Look under Shop warnings.  This issue has always been there since version 3 if not longer…..BPM would be the way to go.
Manasa
 
 
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We had an issue with an operation being completed for over quantity with no alert it was over quantity.  I tested in my training and completed a operation over the Job Quantity...no message.  I don't see an alert in Global Alert.  Any one know why this is allowed to happen.  What are others doing to prevent this?  BPM??
 
thanks Kim
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In 9.05.702A the MES screen would pop up a message that you are over completing  the operation, but if you used Time Entry it would not.  When I checked with support, I was told the time entry is more of a supervisory-type window so it isn't set up for the message that MES got.
In V8 we ended up adding a customization for MES End Activity.
- when total qty doesn't match require qty
---  pops up a messagebox, displays required qty, previous qty and proposed qty
------ and won't allow going over the required qty.
Ok then I have a problem because I am not getting the pop up on the MES screen.
 
Any thoughts?
 
Thanks



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I use this routine on labor Update.  I am pretty sure Manasa posted it.

 

Greg

 

 

/* Stopping Over Reporting of Production Quantities */

 

For each ttLaborDtl where ttLaborDtl.RowMod = 'U' no-lock.

 

     Find First JobOper Where JobOper.Company = ttLaborDtl.Company and JobOper.JobNum = ttLaborDtl.JobNum and JobOper.AssemblySeq = ttLaborDtl.AssemblySeq and

     JobOper.OprSeq = ttLaborDtl.OprSeq no-lock no-error.

    

       If avail JobOper Then Do:

      

       If JobOper.QtyCompleted + ttLaborDtl.LaborQty > JobOper.RunQty and ttLaborDtl.EnableRequestMove = yes Then DO:

      

       {lib/PublishEx.i &ExMsg = "'There are already ' + String(JobOper.QtyCompleted)  + ' complete. The operation required quantity is ' +

       String(JobOper.RunQty) + '. You entered a quantity of ' +  String(ttLaborDtl.LaborQty) + ' this will result in over reported quantities.'"}.

      

       assign ttLaborDtl.LaborQty = 0.

      

       End.

    

     End.

    

     Else.

    

     Find First labordtl where labordtl.company = ttlabordtl.company and labordtl.LaborDtlSeq = ttLaborDtl.LaborDtlSeq no-lock no-error.

    

       if avail LaborDtl Then DO:

      

                Define Variable oldLaborQty as integer no-undo.

      

                assign oldLaborQty = LaborDtl.LaborQty.

      

                If (JobOper.QtyCompleted - oldLaborQty) + ttLaborDtl.LaborQty > JobOper.RunQty  and ttLaborDtl.EnableRequestMove = no Then DO:

      

       {lib/PublishEx.i &ExMsg = "'There are already ' + String(JobOper.QtyCompleted)  + ' complete. The operation required quantity is ' +

       String(JobOper.RunQty) + '. You entered a quantity of' +  String(ttLaborDtl.LaborQty) + ' this will result in over reported quantities.'"}.

      

       assign ttLaborDtl.LaborQty = 0.

      

       End.

    

     End.

 

End.

 

 

 

 

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2015 9:11 AM
To: Vantage List
Subject: [Vantage] Over Quantity issue

 

 

We had an issue with an operation being completed for over quantity with no alert it was over quantity.  I tested in my training and completed a operation over the Job Quantity...no message.  I don't see an alert in Global Alert.  Any one know why this is allowed to happen.  What are others doing to prevent this?  BPM??

 

thanks Kim



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Nah, wasn’t me…but thanks for the call out anyway!  J

Manasa

 

 

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2015 10:17 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Over Quantity issue

 

 

I use this routine on labor Update.  I am pretty sure Manasa posted it.

 

Greg

 

 

/* Stopping Over Reporting of Production Quantities */

 

For each ttLaborDtl where ttLaborDtl.RowMod = 'U' no-lock.

 

     Find First JobOper Where JobOper.Company = ttLaborDtl.Company and JobOper.JobNum = ttLaborDtl.JobNum and JobOper.AssemblySeq = ttLaborDtl.AssemblySeq and

     JobOper.OprSeq = ttLaborDtl.OprSeq no-lock no-error.

    

       If avail JobOper Then Do:

      

       If JobOper.QtyCompleted + ttLaborDtl.LaborQty > JobOper.RunQty and ttLaborDtl.EnableRequestMove = yes Then DO:

      

       {lib/PublishEx.i &ExMsg = "'There are already ' + String(JobOper.QtyCompleted)  + ' complete. The operation required quantity is ' +

       String(JobOper.RunQty) + '. You entered a quantity of ' +  String(ttLaborDtl.LaborQty) + ' this will result in over reported quantities.'"}.

      

       assign ttLaborDtl.LaborQty = 0.

      

       End.

    

     End.

    

     Else.

    

     Find First labordtl where labordtl.company = ttlabordtl.company and labordtl.LaborDtlSeq = ttLaborDtl.LaborDtlSeq no-lock no-error.

    

       if avail LaborDtl Then DO:

      

                Define Variable oldLaborQty as integer no-undo.

      

                assign oldLaborQty = LaborDtl.LaborQty.

      

                If (JobOper.QtyCompleted - oldLaborQty) + ttLaborDtl.LaborQty > JobOper.RunQty  and ttLaborDtl.EnableRequestMove = no Then DO:

      

       {lib/PublishEx.i &ExMsg = "'There are already ' + String(JobOper.QtyCompleted)  + ' complete. The operation required quantity is ' +

       String(JobOper.RunQty) + '. You entered a quantity of' +  String(ttLaborDtl.LaborQty) + ' this will result in over reported quantities.'"}.

      

       assign ttLaborDtl.LaborQty = 0.

      

       End.

    

     End.

 

End.

 

 

 

 

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2015 9:11 AM
To: Vantage List
Subject: [Vantage] Over Quantity issue

 

 

We had an issue with an operation being completed for over quantity with no alert it was over quantity.  I tested in my training and completed a operation over the Job Quantity...no message.  I don't see an alert in Global Alert.  Any one know why this is allowed to happen.  What are others doing to prevent this?  BPM??

 

thanks Kim

 


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If you go into Shop Warning, there is a checkbox to report in Data Collection. When I was in 9.05 I had both data collection and labor entry checked and it would work in MES but not time entry.  I thought labor and time was the same thing.  Maybe we had a different problem, it's been I while.
i figured out why my warnings were not working.  The previous operation needed to be completed.  **SIGH**



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