In case anyone else is experiencing this, I just wanted to let everyone know that I received SCR 47368 targeted for 8.03.410 to correct this problem. Thanks,
-Adam
-Adam
--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Julie Lehmann" <jlehmann@...> wrote:
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> Adam,
> It sounds like there is a whole new realm of security features in 8.x, so maybe that is where the differences are..
> Good luck - maybe I'll be asking you those questions in a couple years when/if we upgrade!
> Julie
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: adam.whipp
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 11:45 AM
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Payroll Classes
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> Julie -- We are actually live on 6.1 now, and it behaves as you describe. We are still testing on 8.03.408b, so I added a new employee only through Payroll, and when I pull it up in Shop Employee, I can see the labor rate and I get the supervisor error. So 6.1 and 8.03.408b don't seem to behave in the same way. I think I may have to call Epicor on this one... Thanks for your help though!
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> -Adam
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> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Julie Lehmann" <jlehmann@> wrote:
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> > Adam,
> > This is how it works in 6.1: You can either enter an employee thru Payroll or thru Shop Employee. If you enter them thru Payroll, you won't see the labor rate in Shop Employee. If you enter them thru Shop Employee, the labor rate can be viewed/maintained. We entered all of our employees thru the payroll module, except for a few that were temp's, and even with Payroll Mgr authority, I do not see the labor rate under Shop Employee. The theory is, if they are entered thru payroll, only payroll can maintain the record. Actually, no one here even utilizes the Shop Employee screen, although I'm sure there would be reasons to allow others (non-payroll/HR staff) to update certain information there. We have the same authorities for Shop Employee as for Payroll employees.
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> > So, to hopefully answer your question - I'm wondering if some of your employees were entered under Shop Employee & some under Payroll - it would explain the differences in the screen access.
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> > HTH!
> > Julie
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: adam.whipp
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 10:09 AM
> > Subject: [Vantage] Re: Payroll Classes
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> > Thanks Julie -- That's what I thought, but the behavior is not what I would expect. Here is the scenario:
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> > Person A is authorized to maintain the General class. Person B is not authorized to maintain any class. Person C is also not authorized to maintain any class, but he has access to Shop Employee under Job Management.
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> > When Person C pulls up Shop Employee and pulls up person B, he sees B's labor rate, he cannot see B's supervisor's name, and he also cannot save any changes becuase of an error that says "Valid Supervisor must be selected".
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> > However, when person C pulls up Shop Employee and pulls up person A, the labor rate field disappears (good), a valid supervisor shows (good), and changes can be made/saved (also good).
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> > So my ultimtate question is: Why does an employee need authorization to maintain the General class (or any class) in order for his record to pull up properly in Shop Employee maintenance?
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> > Sorry for the long scenario. I am thinkning we have something not configured correctlly. Thanks in advance for any help!
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> > -Adam
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Julie Lehmann" <jlehmann@> wrote:
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> > > Adam,
> > > We're on 6.1, but I'm assuming payroll hasn't changed a whole lot. You specify employees who are allowed access to payroll under Payroll class maintenance - so it'll only be your payroll/HR personnel. We have only 2 classes - "General" and "Salary", and have only 3 authorized users.
> > > Then in Employee maintenace, you specific which Class each employee belongs to. If you have different pay periods for different groups, you may want to have different classes for that, (like maybe salaried people get paid monthly and all others bi-weekly), or if only a certain person can process executive payroll, that should be a separate class.
> > >
> > > Hope that helps!
> > > Julie
> > > Mercury Minnesota Inc.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: adam.whipp
> > > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 6:12 PM
> > > Subject: [Vantage] Payroll Classes
> > >
> > >
> > > We are on 8.03.408b with Payroll module. I am trying to make sense of the payroll classes -- the help file is not being very helpful.
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> > > I understand that I can make new classes in Payroll Class Maintenance. I can also assign a user to the different payroll classes here (it seems I can assign user X to multiple payroll classes here).
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> > > But then under Employee Maintenance, I have to yet again assign a payroll class to employee X. It seems it will let me assign employee X to a payroll class here that he didn't belong to under Payroll Class Maintenance.
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> > > Could someone clarify the difference between adding employees to certain classes under Class Maintenance and choosing a certain class under Employee Maintenance? Thanks!
> > >
> > > -Adam
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