Personalization - Who needs it anyway?

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So far with us, personalization hasn't been a problem, they've been
able to move things to suit their needs and keeps them happy and
keeps them from griping to me. So unless you have an employee who
prefers to spend time "playing" instead of working, I find this
feature beneficial.

Barbara Kite


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Charles Carden <ccarden@...> wrote:
>
> If you want less complaints from the users I would recommend giving
them
> that authority. There are a lot of settings that can be done to aid
> them in their job, especially when it comes to the order of fields
in
> grids. Without allowing personalizations you will find the users
> constantly moving fields around to see what they need to see. This
is
> wasted time. They should only need to do this once and save the
> layouts.
>
>
>
> I have not had anyone abuse the right. Most of my users are just
> concerned about making the software more usable. If you find
someone
> that is spending a lot of time changing colors, etc. instead of
working,
> you can always take the rights away from that individual.
>
>
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of ahmeterispaha
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 7:18 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Personalization - Who needs it anyway?
>
>
>
> I was hoping to get more folks to weigh in on Personalization. Do
> you recommend not using it? If so why?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ahmet Erispaha
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> "Mark Wonsil" <mark_wonsil@> wrote:
> >
> > > Then do yourself a favor and disable user personalization. If
> these fields
> > > are that important, customize the app so they are available to
> all and
> > > control access via your user security rights roles.
> >
> > Starting with 8.03.4xx, you can also go to System Management |
> Utilities |
> > Customization/Personalization Maintenance and delete
> personalizations or
> > customizations without going into the command as the user or
> through the
> > Customization route.
> >
> > Mark W.
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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Has anyone seen this kind of behavior?
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Using personalization, the user has added a couple of fields to the grids at the bottom of the summary screen on the Sales Order Tracker. Every once in a while, when he goes into that program, the tabs are completely missing. Tools --> Reset Layout to Base does not fix the problem.Â
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We have no customizations in that program.
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Thanks,
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Ahmet Erispaha




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Go into Customization mode and delete that user's personalization to see if the standard layout reappears. (It should after they shutdown their vantage client and reopen it.)

Then do yourself a favor and disable user personalization. If these fields are that important, customize the app so they are available to all and control access via your user security rights roles.

Rob Brown

--- On Thu, 6/26/08, Ahmet Erispaha <ahmeterispaha@...> wrote:
From: Ahmet Erispaha <ahmeterispaha@...>
Subject: [Vantage] Personalization - Tabs Missing on Bottom of Order Tracker->Summary Even After Reset Layouts to Base
To: "vantage yahoogroups" <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 10:34 AM











Has anyone seen this kind of behavior?



Using personalization, the user has added a couple of fields to the grids at the bottom of the summary screen on the Sales Order Tracker. Every once in a while, when he goes into that program, the tabs are completely missing. Tools --> Reset Layout to Base does not fix the problem.



We have no customizations in that program.



Thanks,



Ahmet Erispaha



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Thanks. That helped.Â
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So it looks like with Personalizations there's the possibility for some kind of mysterious latency effect where the user's personalizations persist even after choosing Tools->Reset Layouts to Base??
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Is it this group's consensus that Personalizations are to be avoided?
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Ahmet Erispaha

--- On Thu, 6/26/08, Robert Brown <robertb_versa@...> wrote:

From: Robert Brown <robertb_versa@...>
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Personalization - Tabs Missing on Bottom of Order Tracker->Summary Even After Reset Layouts to Base
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 11:19 AM






Go into Customization mode and delete that user's personalization to see if the standard layout reappears. (It should after they shutdown their vantage client and reopen it.)

Then do yourself a favor and disable user personalization. If these fields are that important, customize the app so they are available to all and control access via your user security rights roles.

Rob Brown

--- On Thu, 6/26/08, Ahmet Erispaha <ahmeterispaha@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Ahmet Erispaha <ahmeterispaha@ yahoo.com>
Subject: [Vantage] Personalization - Tabs Missing on Bottom of Order Tracker->Summary Even After Reset Layouts to Base
To: "vantage yahoogroups" <vantage@yahoogroups .com>
Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 10:34 AM

Has anyone seen this kind of behavior?

Using personalization, the user has added a couple of fields to the grids at the bottom of the summary screen on the Sales Order Tracker. Every once in a while, when he goes into that program, the tabs are completely missing. Tools --> Reset Layout to Base does not fix the problem.

We have no customizations in that program.

Thanks,

Ahmet Erispaha

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> Then do yourself a favor and disable user personalization. If these fields
> are that important, customize the app so they are available to all and
> control access via your user security rights roles.

Starting with 8.03.4xx, you can also go to System Management | Utilities |
Customization/Personalization Maintenance and delete personalizations or
customizations without going into the command as the user or through the
Customization route.

Mark W.
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I was hoping to get more folks to weigh in on Personalization. Do
you recommend not using it? If so why?

Thanks,

Ahmet Erispaha

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Wonsil" <mark_wonsil@...> wrote:
>
> > Then do yourself a favor and disable user personalization. If
these fields
> > are that important, customize the app so they are available to
all and
> > control access via your user security rights roles.
>
> Starting with 8.03.4xx, you can also go to System Management |
Utilities |
> Customization/Personalization Maintenance and delete
personalizations or
> customizations without going into the command as the user or
through the
> Customization route.
>
> Mark W.
>
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If you want less complaints from the users I would recommend giving them
that authority. There are a lot of settings that can be done to aid
them in their job, especially when it comes to the order of fields in
grids. Without allowing personalizations you will find the users
constantly moving fields around to see what they need to see. This is
wasted time. They should only need to do this once and save the
layouts.



I have not had anyone abuse the right. Most of my users are just
concerned about making the software more usable. If you find someone
that is spending a lot of time changing colors, etc. instead of working,
you can always take the rights away from that individual.



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of ahmeterispaha
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 7:18 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Personalization - Who needs it anyway?



I was hoping to get more folks to weigh in on Personalization. Do
you recommend not using it? If so why?

Thanks,

Ahmet Erispaha

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"Mark Wonsil" <mark_wonsil@...> wrote:
>
> > Then do yourself a favor and disable user personalization. If
these fields
> > are that important, customize the app so they are available to
all and
> > control access via your user security rights roles.
>
> Starting with 8.03.4xx, you can also go to System Management |
Utilities |
> Customization/Personalization Maintenance and delete
personalizations or
> customizations without going into the command as the user or
through the
> Customization route.
>
> Mark W.
>





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Charles,
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Thanks for the feedback.
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Ahmet Erispaha

--- On Fri, 6/27/08, Charles Carden <ccarden@...> wrote:

From: Charles Carden <ccarden@...>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Personalization - Who needs it anyway?
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 9:29 AM






If you want less complaints from the users I would recommend giving them
that authority. There are a lot of settings that can be done to aid
them in their job, especially when it comes to the order of fields in
grids. Without allowing personalizations you will find the users
constantly moving fields around to see what they need to see. This is
wasted time. They should only need to do this once and save the
layouts.

I have not had anyone abuse the right. Most of my users are just
concerned about making the software more usable. If you find someone
that is spending a lot of time changing colors, etc. instead of working,
you can always take the rights away from that individual.

From: vantage@yahoogroups .com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf
Of ahmeterispaha
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 7:18 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Personalization - Who needs it anyway?

I was hoping to get more folks to weigh in on Personalization. Do
you recommend not using it? If so why?

Thanks,

Ahmet Erispaha

--- In vantage@yahoogroups .com <mailto:vantage% 40yahoogroups. com> ,
"Mark Wonsil" <mark_wonsil@ ...> wrote:
>
> > Then do yourself a favor and disable user personalization. If
these fields
> > are that important, customize the app so they are available to
all and
> > control access via your user security rights roles.
>
> Starting with 8.03.4xx, you can also go to System Management |
Utilities |
> Customization/ Personalization Maintenance and delete
personalizations or
> customizations without going into the command as the user or
through the
> Customization route.
>
> Mark W.
>

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