Production Standards - Multiple Jobs

[jseidl (John Seidl)]

Hi All,

We’re facing an issue on pinning down our paint booth production standards and best practices for how to schedule it.

We have 3 operators and all 3 clock into all jobs for the parts they will be painting. Our paint operators have racks that they may hang many smaller parts on from different jobs to be painted at the same time. Sometimes they may paint one large part or 3 medium sized parts. The parts they rack are different every time as they rack whatever comes to their booth.

Also their clock in process is rather long, as they sort the job travelers and clock into whatever is available.

We’re struggling on figuring out how to calculate the production standards and schedule around this because how long it takes is based upon what they rack. We currently use hours/piece for the production standard.

Is there a better way we can manage this?

Anything helps.

[LarsonSolutions (Bruce Larson)]

Consider that you are making Sq Inches painted surface.
If you review what I posted a while ago - it may help.
No customizations - just a different way to use job manager and job to job transactions.

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Darrel, I have developed an approach that does not require any special module it just uses standard functionality. The process is to think out of the box on what you are producing when doing laser cutting and painting. When you are laser cutting you are producing square inches of sheet stock. Painting you are producing sq inches of painted surface. Which you will make to another job for the parts required. Here’s how to do this Let’s say you are making two different parts - A123 and B123 t…

[LarsonSolutions (Bruce Larson)]

I should add there is only one job per color to clock into.
All costs will flow to the associated jobs.

[mhellwig (Matt Hellwig)]

I’m not an expert at this, but perhaps take a look at the Advanced Planning and Scheduling (APS) module. There is an example in the APS training manual where it discusses how to schedule an Oven, which could be similar to a Paint Booth. Things to consider are the Daily Production Capacity and Concurrent Capacity values on the Resource. These are non-time constraints and could help with your scheduling. The second part of your challenge is capturing labor. Have you considered backflushing your labor rather than using start/end activity in MES? Unless you really are about the actual times each part takes to paint, then maybe it’s not worth trying to capture it. Instead, just assume your standards are correct and move on.

[jseidl (John Seidl)]

I’ll have to test it based on that help section.

The issue we run into with backflushing labor is that the operation is typically the last operation on the child assembly, and backflushing labor doesn’t work if it’s the last op. It does not continue on to the parent level so no labor is captured.

[mhellwig (Matt Hellwig)]

You would definitely need an added operation after the paint operation, and that operation would need to be marked as complete (or at least have a quantity reported) in order to trigger the backflush of labor on the paint operation.