Reboot of Vantage Server

John
I'm running Vantage 4.0. My database was crashing weekly. Sometimes
actually rebooting the Vantage server. On the advice from Virginia Johnson
at Epicor I applied the patch to get it to ver 90B44. It took less than ten
minutes to apply. I did it at lunchtime. This cured a memory leak. I also
made the promsgs in the Progress folder Read Only so more than one user
could attach to it at one time. Since then my database has been staying up
for 30 day stints.

As far as your users. You can use ProMon to chop their connections or just
shut down the database. The results at the client are the same. The user
gets three error messages and has to hit the space bar. Then they can
reattach. If your crashing all the time your users are probably well versed
at this. Make a company announcement when shutting down the DB tell them it
will be down for twenty minutes when you need ten because they are going to
start hitting it while it is coming up. I have 81 users including 9 data
collection stations in three building. If you have Citrix or Terminal Server
connections as I have from my farthest building make sure you kill all the
terminal server connections while you have the database down.

Good Luck
Cliff Drumeller
Information Technology Manager
Mass Precision Sheetmetal
408 954-0200 ex 217

-----Original Message-----
From: mansfield1024 [mailto:johnm@...]
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 1:04 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] reboot of Vantage Server


Hi all,

We have been running into problems lately which are solved
by rebooting the server.

How often due you reboot?

How do you insure that everyone is out before the reboot?

Thanks,

John Mansfield
General Sheet Metal




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Hi all,

We have been running into problems lately which are solved
by rebooting the server.

How often due you reboot?

How do you insure that everyone is out before the reboot?

Thanks,

John Mansfield
General Sheet Metal
What type of problems are you seeing?
I usually make an overhead page that I will be restarting the system in 2
minutes?
Then I shut down the database, If they haven't logged out and most don't it
just kicks them off.

Patrick


-----Original Message-----
From: mansfield1024 [mailto:johnm@...]
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:04 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] reboot of Vantage Server


Hi all,

We have been running into problems lately which are solved
by rebooting the server.

How often due you reboot?

How do you insure that everyone is out before the reboot?

Thanks,

John Mansfield
General Sheet Metal



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I only re-boot when needed, very rarely, once a month, if that. When I need
to, I send out a message to all connected users that the server will be
re-booted at a certain time (usually break time or lunch time if it can
wait), and tell them all to disconnect before that time. Anyone note
disconnected, I disconnect through promon and then I reboot.



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I am getting Dr Watson errors.
----- Original Message -----
From: pjw@...
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:10 PM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] reboot of Vantage Server


What type of problems are you seeing?
I usually make an overhead page that I will be restarting the system in 2
minutes?
Then I shut down the database, If they haven't logged out and most don't it
just kicks them off.

Patrick


-----Original Message-----
From: mansfield1024 [mailto:johnm@...]
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:04 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] reboot of Vantage Server


Hi all,

We have been running into problems lately which are solved
by rebooting the server.

How often due you reboot?

How do you insure that everyone is out before the reboot?

Thanks,

John Mansfield
General Sheet Metal



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Lately I've only been rebooting when I install a new patch.
(about every 6 - 8 weeks). As others have stated, I check
promon and make a company wide announcement that the server
will be going down in x minutes. If users are not out, they
get killed when I shut the db down.

-----Original Message-----
From: mansfield1024 [mailto:johnm@...]
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 4:04 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] reboot of Vantage Server


Hi all,

We have been running into problems lately which are solved
by rebooting the server.

How often due you reboot?

How do you insure that everyone is out before the reboot?

Thanks,

John Mansfield
General Sheet Metal



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Is there any risk of data loss by kicking them out?

----- Original Message -----
From: pjw@...
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:10 PM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] reboot of Vantage Server


What type of problems are you seeing?
I usually make an overhead page that I will be restarting the system in 2
minutes?
Then I shut down the database, If they haven't logged out and most don't it
just kicks them off.

Patrick


-----Original Message-----
From: mansfield1024 [mailto:johnm@...]
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:04 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] reboot of Vantage Server


Hi all,

We have been running into problems lately which are solved
by rebooting the server.

How often due you reboot?

How do you insure that everyone is out before the reboot?

Thanks,

John Mansfield
General Sheet Metal



Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
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(2) To search through old msg's goto:
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The user may lose 1/2 a screen that's been filled out, but I never have seen
any database corruption.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Mansfield [mailto:johnm@...]
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:25 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] reboot of Vantage Server


Is there any risk of data loss by kicking them out?

----- Original Message -----
From: pjw@...
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:10 PM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] reboot of Vantage Server


What type of problems are you seeing?
I usually make an overhead page that I will be restarting the system in 2
minutes?
Then I shut down the database, If they haven't logged out and most don't
it
just kicks them off.

Patrick


-----Original Message-----
From: mansfield1024 [mailto:johnm@...]
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:04 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] reboot of Vantage Server


Hi all,

We have been running into problems lately which are solved
by rebooting the server.

How often due you reboot?

How do you insure that everyone is out before the reboot?

Thanks,

John Mansfield
General Sheet Metal



Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have
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(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
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(2) To search through old msg's goto:
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What happens to the client connection? Does the screen close down and show a desktop?

----- Original Message -----
From: pjw@...
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:27 PM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] reboot of Vantage Server


The user may lose 1/2 a screen that's been filled out, but I never have seen
any database corruption.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Mansfield [mailto:johnm@...]
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:25 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] reboot of Vantage Server


Is there any risk of data loss by kicking them out?

----- Original Message -----
From: pjw@...
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:10 PM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] reboot of Vantage Server


What type of problems are you seeing?
I usually make an overhead page that I will be restarting the system in 2
minutes?
Then I shut down the database, If they haven't logged out and most don't
it
just kicks them off.

Patrick


-----Original Message-----
From: mansfield1024 [mailto:johnm@...]
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:04 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] reboot of Vantage Server


Hi all,

We have been running into problems lately which are solved
by rebooting the server.

How often due you reboot?

How do you insure that everyone is out before the reboot?

Thanks,

John Mansfield
General Sheet Metal



Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
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(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
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(2) To search through old msg's goto:
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Clients receive an error message about being unable to reach the Vantage
server.

Lydia

-----Original Message-----
From: John Mansfield [mailto:johnm@...]
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 1:30 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] reboot of Vantage Server

What happens to the client connection? Does the screen close down and show a
desktop?

----- Original Message -----
From: pjw@...
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:27 PM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] reboot of Vantage Server


The user may lose 1/2 a screen that's been filled out, but I never have
seen
any database corruption.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Mansfield [mailto:johnm@...]
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:25 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] reboot of Vantage Server


Is there any risk of data loss by kicking them out?

----- Original Message -----
From: pjw@...
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:10 PM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] reboot of Vantage Server


What type of problems are you seeing?
I usually make an overhead page that I will be restarting the system in
2
minutes?
Then I shut down the database, If they haven't logged out and most don't
it
just kicks them off.

Patrick


-----Original Message-----
From: mansfield1024 [mailto:johnm@...]
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:04 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] reboot of Vantage Server


Hi all,

We have been running into problems lately which are solved
by rebooting the server.

How often due you reboot?

How do you insure that everyone is out before the reboot?

Thanks,

John Mansfield
General Sheet Metal



Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have
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(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
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(2) To search through old msg's goto:
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(2) To search through old msg's goto:
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Either 1) a database connect pop up box, press ok, vantage disappears and
then you have to just restart, 2) pop up box after pop up box appears and
generally it's a good idea to reboot the PC. 3) Vantage disappears but gets
errors when restarting, then it's again the only choice but to reboot.

Patrick

-----Original Message-----
From: John Mansfield [mailto:johnm@...]
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:30 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] reboot of Vantage Server


What happens to the client connection? Does the screen close down and show a
desktop?

----- Original Message -----
From: pjw@...
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:27 PM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] reboot of Vantage Server


The user may lose 1/2 a screen that's been filled out, but I never have
seen
any database corruption.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Mansfield [mailto:johnm@...]
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:25 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] reboot of Vantage Server


Is there any risk of data loss by kicking them out?

----- Original Message -----
From: pjw@...
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:10 PM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] reboot of Vantage Server


What type of problems are you seeing?
I usually make an overhead page that I will be restarting the system in
2
minutes?
Then I shut down the database, If they haven't logged out and most don't
it
just kicks them off.

Patrick


-----Original Message-----
From: mansfield1024 [mailto:johnm@...]
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:04 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] reboot of Vantage Server


Hi all,

We have been running into problems lately which are solved
by rebooting the server.

How often due you reboot?

How do you insure that everyone is out before the reboot?

Thanks,

John Mansfield
General Sheet Metal



Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
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(2) To search through old msg's goto:
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Promon will leave the Vantage screen up until the user tries to do
something, then they will receive 3 error messages and dump them into the
Procedure editor. There is a Kill all in Promon which works really well.

I trigger a timeout at the workstations which backs the user out and cleanly
closes Vantage at the workstation, then I use Promon to close and Data
Collection and Report builder sessions. Or I VNC into the workstation and
shut it down. All depends upon how much time you want to spend closing
users down.

As long as you have Crash Protection turned on, there shouldn't be any
problems with shutting down Vantage even while users are in Vantage.
Progress will back out the sessions before it closes the database.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Mansfield [mailto:johnm@...]
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:30 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] reboot of Vantage Server


What happens to the client connection? Does the screen close down and show a
desktop?

----- Original Message -----
From: pjw@...
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:27 PM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] reboot of Vantage Server


The user may lose 1/2 a screen that's been filled out, but I never have
seen
any database corruption.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Mansfield [mailto:johnm@...]
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:25 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] reboot of Vantage Server


Is there any risk of data loss by kicking them out?

----- Original Message -----
From: pjw@...
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:10 PM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] reboot of Vantage Server


What type of problems are you seeing?
I usually make an overhead page that I will be restarting the system in
2
minutes?
Then I shut down the database, If they haven't logged out and most don't
it
just kicks them off.

Patrick


-----Original Message-----
From: mansfield1024 [mailto:johnm@...]
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:04 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] reboot of Vantage Server


Hi all,

We have been running into problems lately which are solved
by rebooting the server.

How often due you reboot?

How do you insure that everyone is out before the reboot?

Thanks,

John Mansfield
General Sheet Metal



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(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
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How many office users and shop floor users do you have?

Patrick Winter


-----Original Message-----
From: sarah.vareschi@... [mailto:sarah.vareschi@...]
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:15 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] reboot of Vantage Server


I only re-boot when needed, very rarely, once a month, if that. When I need
to, I send out a message to all connected users that the server will be
re-booted at a certain time (usually break time or lunch time if it can
wait), and tell them all to disconnect before that time. Anyone note
disconnected, I disconnect through promon and then I reboot.



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I have 11 office and 12 shop. The shop uses both Vantage and the VMM or data collection program.
----- Original Message -----
From: pjw@...
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:16 PM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] reboot of Vantage Server


How many office users and shop floor users do you have?

Patrick Winter


-----Original Message-----
From: sarah.vareschi@... [mailto:sarah.vareschi@...]
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:15 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] reboot of Vantage Server


I only re-boot when needed, very rarely, once a month, if that. When I need
to, I send out a message to all connected users that the server will be
re-booted at a certain time (usually break time or lunch time if it can
wait), and tell them all to disconnect before that time. Anyone note
disconnected, I disconnect through promon and then I reboot.



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I use ProMon to monitor who is logged on to Vantage. As a matter of fact ProMon is always open on our server's desktop. When need to
shut down the server or the database I page twice on the intercom then I switch to option 8 in ProMon's main menu, which is
"Shutdown Database". This option gives me an ability to disconnect users one by one or emergency shutdown which will kick everyone
out. If there is no emergency I contact the person, he or she could on the phone taking orders. This way I find out if there are any
orphan client connections.

Mike Tonoyan / MIS Manager
All American Products Co.
1135 Aviation Place
San Fernando, CA 91340
USA
Tel.: 818-361-0059 Ext.: 246
Fax 818-898-2236
E-mail: miket@...
Web: www.allamericanproducts.com


----- Original Message -----
From: <pjw@...>
To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 1:10 PM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] reboot of Vantage Server


> What type of problems are you seeing?
> I usually make an overhead page that I will be restarting the system in 2
> minutes?
> Then I shut down the database, If they haven't logged out and most don't it
> just kicks them off.
>
> Patrick
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mansfield1024 [mailto:johnm@...]
> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:04 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] reboot of Vantage Server
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> We have been running into problems lately which are solved
> by rebooting the server.
>
> How often due you reboot?
>
> How do you insure that everyone is out before the reboot?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John Mansfield
> General Sheet Metal
>
>
>
> Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
> already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
> Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
> (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
> Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to
enable access. )
> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
> (2) To search through old msg's goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
I know of a Vantage server thatÂ’s been running non-stop since July 12, 2002.
Before that when it was me against the world, the server got shut down and
restarted every Monday morning at 5:30 before the rest of the world got
going for the week. Any sessions running got shutdown in Promon and the
error message on the user desktop served as a subtle reminder they left an
open session. Progress was friendly enough to back out any open
transactions so nothing was affected.

Terry L. Williams 176 Shadywood Circle Cranberry, PA 16319
814-676-8650 tlw@... <mailto:tlw@...>

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Tonoyan [mailto:miket@...]
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 5:04 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] reboot of Vantage Server

I use ProMon to monitor who is logged on to Vantage. As a matter of fact
ProMon is always open on our server's desktop. When need to
shut down the server or the database I page twice on the intercom then I
switch to option 8 in ProMon's main menu, which is
"Shutdown Database". This option gives me an ability to disconnect users one
by one or emergency shutdown which will kick everyone
out. If there is no emergency I contact the person, he or she could on the
phone taking orders. This way I find out if there are any
orphan client connections.

Mike Tonoyan / MIS Manager
All American Products Co.
1135 Aviation Place
San Fernando, CA 91340
USA
Tel.: 818-361-0059 Ext.: 246
Fax 818-898-2236
E-mail: miket@...
Web: www.allamericanproducts.com


----- Original Message -----
From: <pjw@...>
To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 1:10 PM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] reboot of Vantage Server


> What type of problems are you seeing?
> I usually make an overhead page that I will be restarting the system in 2
> minutes?
> Then I shut down the database, If they haven't logged out and most don't
it
> just kicks them off.
>
> Patrick
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mansfield1024 [mailto:johnm@...]
> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:04 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] reboot of Vantage Server
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> We have been running into problems lately which are solved
> by rebooting the server.
>
> How often due you reboot?
>
> How do you insure that everyone is out before the reboot?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John Mansfield
> General Sheet Metal
>
>
>
> Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have
> already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
> Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
> (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
> Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to
enable access. )
> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
> (2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>




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