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Hello!

I am trying to edit a packing slip in report builder. I want to change
the leading text string to: 2S, but it doesn't like the numerical '2' in
the text string. Is there some setting I need to change for it to
accept the '2'?

We are wanting a 'bar code' font, as well. Do you know where I can get
that font?



We are on Vantage 6.1.



Thank you,
Tamara

GASKET ENGINEERING CO


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We are looking at purchasing a new server in advance of upgradeing from 8.03 to 9.05 (Progress). I would appeciate any comments on the hardware specs listed below:

PE R710 with Chassis for Up to 8, 2.5-Inch Hard Drives and Intel 56XX Processors (224-8461)

PowerEdge R710 Shipping (330-4124)

32GB Memory (8x4GB), 1333MHz Dual Ranked RDIMMs for 2 Processors, Advanced ECC (317-2062)

Embedded Broadcom, GB Ethernet NICS with TOE (430-1764)

Intel Xeon X5650, 2.66Ghz, 12M Cache,Turbo, HT, 1333MHz Max Mem (317-4109)

PowerEdge R710 Heat Sinks for 2 Processors (317-1213)

Intel Xeon X5650, 2.66Ghz, 12M Cache,Turbo, HT, 1333MHz Max Mem (317-4121)

HD Multi-Select (341-4158)

PERC H700 Integrated RAID Controller, 1GB NV Cache, x8 (342-1615)

Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C13, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter (310-8509)

Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C13, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter (310-8509)

ELEC DWNLD ONLY OLP WINSVRENT 2008R2 SNGL NL (A3064282) 1
ELEC DWNLD ONLY OLP WIN SVR CAL 2008 SNGL NL USER CAL Elec Dwnld only (A1531436)

100GB Solid State Drive SATA Mainstream 2.5in HotPlug Hard Drive (341-9355) - Quantity 4

146GB 15K RPM Serial-Attach SCSI 3Gbps 2.5-in HotPlug Hard Drive MD1120, Customer Install (341-8972) - Quantity 2

iDRAC6 Enterprise (467-8648)

DVD ROM, SATA, INTERNAL (313-9092)

Riser with 2 PCIe x8 + 2 PCIe x4 Slot (320-7886)

Electronic System Documentation and OpenManage DVD Kit (330-3485)

Dell Management Console (330-5280)

RAID 10 for H700 or PERC 6/i Controllers, SSD Hard Drives (341-9148)

Sliding Ready Rails With CableManagement Arm (330-3477)

Thank you choosing Dell ProSupport. For tech support, visit http://support.dell.com/ProSupport or call 1-800-9 (989-3439)

Mission Critical Package: 4-Hour 7x24 On-Site Service with Emergency Dispatch, 2 Year Extended (992-8162)

ProSupport : 7x24 HW / SW Tech Support and Assistance , 3 Year (992-8352)

Mission Critical Package: 4-Hour 7x24 On-Site Service with Emergency Dispatch, Initial Year (993-2200)

Dell Hardware Limited Warranty Plus On Site Service Initial Year (993-8447)

Dell Hardware Limited Warranty Extended Year (993-8458)

MISSION CRITICAL PACKAGE: Enhanced Services, 3 Year (993-8518)

High Output Power Supply Redundant, 870W (330-3475)
3
How many users are you running?
Will you be virtualizing?

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Steven <sgotschall@...> wrote:

>
>
> We are looking at purchasing a new server in advance of upgradeing from
> 8.03 to 9.05 (Progress). I would appeciate any comments on the hardware
> specs listed below:
>
> PE R710 with Chassis for Up to 8, 2.5-Inch Hard Drives and Intel 56XX
> Processors (224-8461)
>
> PowerEdge R710 Shipping (330-4124)
>
> 32GB Memory (8x4GB), 1333MHz Dual Ranked RDIMMs for 2 Processors, Advanced
> ECC (317-2062)
>
> Embedded Broadcom, GB Ethernet NICS with TOE (430-1764)
>
> Intel Xeon X5650, 2.66Ghz, 12M Cache,Turbo, HT, 1333MHz Max Mem (317-4109)
>
> PowerEdge R710 Heat Sinks for 2 Processors (317-1213)
>
> Intel Xeon X5650, 2.66Ghz, 12M Cache,Turbo, HT, 1333MHz Max Mem (317-4121)
>
> HD Multi-Select (341-4158)
>
> PERC H700 Integrated RAID Controller, 1GB NV Cache, x8 (342-1615)
>
> Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C13, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter
> (310-8509)
>
> Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C13, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter
> (310-8509)
>
> ELEC DWNLD ONLY OLP WINSVRENT 2008R2 SNGL NL (A3064282) 1
> ELEC DWNLD ONLY OLP WIN SVR CAL 2008 SNGL NL USER CAL Elec Dwnld only
> (A1531436)
>
> 100GB Solid State Drive SATA Mainstream 2.5in HotPlug Hard Drive (341-9355)
> - Quantity 4
>
> 146GB 15K RPM Serial-Attach SCSI 3Gbps 2.5-in HotPlug Hard Drive MD1120,
> Customer Install (341-8972) - Quantity 2
>
> iDRAC6 Enterprise (467-8648)
>
> DVD ROM, SATA, INTERNAL (313-9092)
>
> Riser with 2 PCIe x8 + 2 PCIe x4 Slot (320-7886)
>
> Electronic System Documentation and OpenManage DVD Kit (330-3485)
>
> Dell Management Console (330-5280)
>
> RAID 10 for H700 or PERC 6/i Controllers, SSD Hard Drives (341-9148)
>
> Sliding Ready Rails With CableManagement Arm (330-3477)
>
> Thank you choosing Dell ProSupport. For tech support, visit
> http://support.dell.com/ProSupport or call 1-800-9 (989-3439)
>
> Mission Critical Package: 4-Hour 7x24 On-Site Service with Emergency
> Dispatch, 2 Year Extended (992-8162)
>
> ProSupport : 7x24 HW / SW Tech Support and Assistance , 3 Year (992-8352)
>
> Mission Critical Package: 4-Hour 7x24 On-Site Service with Emergency
> Dispatch, Initial Year (993-2200)
>
> Dell Hardware Limited Warranty Plus On Site Service Initial Year (993-8447)
>
> Dell Hardware Limited Warranty Extended Year (993-8458)
>
> MISSION CRITICAL PACKAGE: Enhanced Services, 3 Year (993-8518)
>
> High Output Power Supply Redundant, 870W (330-3475)
>
>
>


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45, no virtualization.




________________________________
From: Waffqle Driggers <waffqle@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, November 12, 2010 8:52:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Server Hardware

How many users are you running?
Will you be virtualizing?

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Steven <sgotschall@...> wrote:

>
>
> We are looking at purchasing a new server in advance of upgradeing from
> 8.03 to 9.05 (Progress). I would appeciate any comments on the hardware
> specs listed below:
>
> PE R710 with Chassis for Up to 8, 2.5-Inch Hard Drives and Intel 56XX
> Processors (224-8461)
>
> PowerEdge R710 Shipping (330-4124)
>
> 32GB Memory (8x4GB), 1333MHz Dual Ranked RDIMMs for 2 Processors, Advanced
> ECC (317-2062)
>
> Embedded Broadcom, GB Ethernet NICS with TOE (430-1764)
>
> Intel Xeon X5650, 2.66Ghz, 12M Cache,Turbo, HT, 1333MHz Max Mem (317-4109)
>
> PowerEdge R710 Heat Sinks for 2 Processors (317-1213)
>
> Intel Xeon X5650, 2.66Ghz, 12M Cache,Turbo, HT, 1333MHz Max Mem (317-4121)
>
> HD Multi-Select (341-4158)
>
> PERC H700 Integrated RAID Controller, 1GB NV Cache, x8 (342-1615)
>
> Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C13, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter
> (310-8509)
>
> Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C13, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter
> (310-8509)
>
> ELEC DWNLD ONLY OLP WINSVRENT 2008R2 SNGL NL (A3064282) 1
> ELEC DWNLD ONLY OLP WIN SVR CAL 2008 SNGL NL USER CAL Elec Dwnld only
> (A1531436)
>
> 100GB Solid State Drive SATA Mainstream 2.5in HotPlug Hard Drive (341-9355)
> - Quantity 4
>
> 146GB 15K RPM Serial-Attach SCSI 3Gbps 2.5-in HotPlug Hard Drive MD1120,
> Customer Install (341-8972) - Quantity 2
>
> iDRAC6 Enterprise (467-8648)
>
> DVD ROM, SATA, INTERNAL (313-9092)
>
> Riser with 2 PCIe x8 + 2 PCIe x4 Slot (320-7886)
>
> Electronic System Documentation and OpenManage DVD Kit (330-3485)
>
> Dell Management Console (330-5280)
>
> RAID 10 for H700 or PERC 6/i Controllers, SSD Hard Drives (341-9148)
>
> Sliding Ready Rails With CableManagement Arm (330-3477)
>
> Thank you choosing Dell ProSupport. For tech support, visit
> http://support.dell.com/ProSupport or call 1-800-9 (989-3439)
>
> Mission Critical Package: 4-Hour 7x24 On-Site Service with Emergency
> Dispatch, 2 Year Extended (992-8162)
>
> ProSupport : 7x24 HW / SW Tech Support and Assistance , 3 Year (992-8352)
>
> Mission Critical Package: 4-Hour 7x24 On-Site Service with Emergency
> Dispatch, Initial Year (993-2200)
>
> Dell Hardware Limited Warranty Plus On Site Service Initial Year (993-8447)
>
> Dell Hardware Limited Warranty Extended Year (993-8458)
>
> MISSION CRITICAL PACKAGE: Enhanced Services, 3 Year (993-8518)
>
> High Output Power Supply Redundant, 870W (330-3475)
>
>Â
>


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already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.%c2%a0

(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
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I'd say that would probably cover you pretty well.

I assume the 4 SSD are for the DB and the other 2 drives are for the OS?

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Steven Gotschall <sgotschall@...>wrote:

>
>
> 45, no virtualization.
>
> ________________________________
> From: Waffqle Driggers <waffqle@... <waffqle%40gmail.com>>
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Fri, November 12, 2010 8:52:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] Server Hardware
>
>
> How many users are you running?
> Will you be virtualizing?
>
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Steven <sgotschall@...<sgotschall%40yahoo.com>>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > We are looking at purchasing a new server in advance of upgradeing from
> > 8.03 to 9.05 (Progress). I would appeciate any comments on the hardware
> > specs listed below:
> >
> > PE R710 with Chassis for Up to 8, 2.5-Inch Hard Drives and Intel 56XX
> > Processors (224-8461)
> >
> > PowerEdge R710 Shipping (330-4124)
> >
> > 32GB Memory (8x4GB), 1333MHz Dual Ranked RDIMMs for 2 Processors,
> Advanced
> > ECC (317-2062)
> >
> > Embedded Broadcom, GB Ethernet NICS with TOE (430-1764)
> >
> > Intel Xeon X5650, 2.66Ghz, 12M Cache,Turbo, HT, 1333MHz Max Mem
> (317-4109)
> >
> > PowerEdge R710 Heat Sinks for 2 Processors (317-1213)
> >
> > Intel Xeon X5650, 2.66Ghz, 12M Cache,Turbo, HT, 1333MHz Max Mem
> (317-4121)
> >
> > HD Multi-Select (341-4158)
> >
> > PERC H700 Integrated RAID Controller, 1GB NV Cache, x8 (342-1615)
> >
> > Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C13, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter
> > (310-8509)
> >
> > Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C13, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter
> > (310-8509)
> >
> > ELEC DWNLD ONLY OLP WINSVRENT 2008R2 SNGL NL (A3064282) 1
> > ELEC DWNLD ONLY OLP WIN SVR CAL 2008 SNGL NL USER CAL Elec Dwnld only
> > (A1531436)
> >
> > 100GB Solid State Drive SATA Mainstream 2.5in HotPlug Hard Drive
> (341-9355)
> > - Quantity 4
> >
> > 146GB 15K RPM Serial-Attach SCSI 3Gbps 2.5-in HotPlug Hard Drive MD1120,
> > Customer Install (341-8972) - Quantity 2
> >
> > iDRAC6 Enterprise (467-8648)
> >
> > DVD ROM, SATA, INTERNAL (313-9092)
> >
> > Riser with 2 PCIe x8 + 2 PCIe x4 Slot (320-7886)
> >
> > Electronic System Documentation and OpenManage DVD Kit (330-3485)
> >
> > Dell Management Console (330-5280)
> >
> > RAID 10 for H700 or PERC 6/i Controllers, SSD Hard Drives (341-9148)
> >
> > Sliding Ready Rails With CableManagement Arm (330-3477)
> >
> > Thank you choosing Dell ProSupport. For tech support, visit
> > http://support.dell.com/ProSupport or call 1-800-9 (989-3439)
> >
> > Mission Critical Package: 4-Hour 7x24 On-Site Service with Emergency
> > Dispatch, 2 Year Extended (992-8162)
> >
> > ProSupport : 7x24 HW / SW Tech Support and Assistance , 3 Year (992-8352)
> >
> > Mission Critical Package: 4-Hour 7x24 On-Site Service with Emergency
> > Dispatch, Initial Year (993-2200)
> >
> > Dell Hardware Limited Warranty Plus On Site Service Initial Year
> (993-8447)
> >
> > Dell Hardware Limited Warranty Extended Year (993-8458)
> >
> > MISSION CRITICAL PACKAGE: Enhanced Services, 3 Year (993-8518)
> >
> > High Output Power Supply Redundant, 870W (330-3475)
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
> Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
>
> already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
> Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
>
> (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Yes.




________________________________
From: Waffqle Driggers <waffqle@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, November 12, 2010 2:11:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Server Hardware

I'd say that would probably cover you pretty well.

I assume the 4 SSD are for the DB and the other 2 drives are for the OS?

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Steven Gotschall <sgotschall@...>wrote:

>
>
> 45, no virtualization.
>
> ________________________________
> From: Waffqle Driggers <waffqle@... <waffqle%40gmail.com>>
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Fri, November 12, 2010 8:52:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] Server Hardware
>
>
> How many users are you running?
> Will you be virtualizing?
>
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Steven
><sgotschall@...<sgotschall%40yahoo.com>>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > We are looking at purchasing a new server in advance of upgradeing from
> > 8.03 to 9.05 (Progress). I would appeciate any comments on the hardware
> > specs listed below:
> >
> > PE R710 with Chassis for Up to 8, 2.5-Inch Hard Drives and Intel 56XX
> > Processors (224-8461)
> >
> > PowerEdge R710 Shipping (330-4124)
> >
> > 32GB Memory (8x4GB), 1333MHz Dual Ranked RDIMMs for 2 Processors,
> Advanced
> > ECC (317-2062)
> >
> > Embedded Broadcom, GB Ethernet NICS with TOE (430-1764)
> >
> > Intel Xeon X5650, 2.66Ghz, 12M Cache,Turbo, HT, 1333MHz Max Mem
> (317-4109)
> >
> > PowerEdge R710 Heat Sinks for 2 Processors (317-1213)
> >
> > Intel Xeon X5650, 2.66Ghz, 12M Cache,Turbo, HT, 1333MHz Max Mem
> (317-4121)
> >
> > HD Multi-Select (341-4158)
> >
> > PERC H700 Integrated RAID Controller, 1GB NV Cache, x8 (342-1615)
> >
> > Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C13, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter
> > (310-8509)
> >
> > Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C13, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter
> > (310-8509)
> >
> > ELEC DWNLD ONLY OLP WINSVRENT 2008R2 SNGL NL (A3064282) 1
> > ELEC DWNLD ONLY OLP WIN SVR CAL 2008 SNGL NL USER CAL Elec Dwnld only
> > (A1531436)
> >
> > 100GB Solid State Drive SATA Mainstream 2.5in HotPlug Hard Drive
> (341-9355)
> > - Quantity 4
> >
> > 146GB 15K RPM Serial-Attach SCSI 3Gbps 2.5-in HotPlug Hard Drive MD1120,
> > Customer Install (341-8972) - Quantity 2
> >
> > iDRAC6 Enterprise (467-8648)
> >
> > DVD ROM, SATA, INTERNAL (313-9092)
> >
> > Riser with 2 PCIe x8 + 2 PCIe x4 Slot (320-7886)
> >
> > Electronic System Documentation and OpenManage DVD Kit (330-3485)
> >
> > Dell Management Console (330-5280)
> >
> > RAID 10 for H700 or PERC 6/i Controllers, SSD Hard Drives (341-9148)
> >
> > Sliding Ready Rails With CableManagement Arm (330-3477)
> >
> > Thank you choosing Dell ProSupport. For tech support, visit
> > http://support.dell.com/ProSupport or call 1-800-9 (989-3439)
> >
> > Mission Critical Package: 4-Hour 7x24 On-Site Service with Emergency
> > Dispatch, 2 Year Extended (992-8162)
> >
> > ProSupport : 7x24 HW / SW Tech Support and Assistance , 3 Year (992-8352)
> >
> > Mission Critical Package: 4-Hour 7x24 On-Site Service with Emergency
> > Dispatch, Initial Year (993-2200)
> >
> > Dell Hardware Limited Warranty Plus On Site Service Initial Year
> (993-8447)
> >
> > Dell Hardware Limited Warranty Extended Year (993-8458)
> >
> > MISSION CRITICAL PACKAGE: Enhanced Services, 3 Year (993-8518)
> >
> > High Output Power Supply Redundant, 870W (330-3475)
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
> Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note:Â You must have
>
> already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
> Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
>
> (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>Â
>


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------------------------------------

Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note:Â You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.%c2%a0

(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links






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7
Which SSD drives are you planing on using? The dell drives are overpriced but the PERC controllers have been locked to stop usage of 3rd part hard drives.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Steven" <sgotschall@...> wrote:
>
> We are looking at purchasing a new server in advance of upgradeing from 8.03 to 9.05 (Progress). I would appeciate any comments on the hardware specs listed below:
>
> PE R710 with Chassis for Up to 8, 2.5-Inch Hard Drives and Intel 56XX Processors (224-8461)
>
> PowerEdge R710 Shipping (330-4124)
>
> 32GB Memory (8x4GB), 1333MHz Dual Ranked RDIMMs for 2 Processors, Advanced ECC (317-2062)
>
> Embedded Broadcom, GB Ethernet NICS with TOE (430-1764)
>
> Intel Xeon X5650, 2.66Ghz, 12M Cache,Turbo, HT, 1333MHz Max Mem (317-4109)
>
> PowerEdge R710 Heat Sinks for 2 Processors (317-1213)
>
> Intel Xeon X5650, 2.66Ghz, 12M Cache,Turbo, HT, 1333MHz Max Mem (317-4121)
>
> HD Multi-Select (341-4158)
>
> PERC H700 Integrated RAID Controller, 1GB NV Cache, x8 (342-1615)
>
> Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C13, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter (310-8509)
>
> Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C13, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter (310-8509)
>
> ELEC DWNLD ONLY OLP WINSVRENT 2008R2 SNGL NL (A3064282) 1
> ELEC DWNLD ONLY OLP WIN SVR CAL 2008 SNGL NL USER CAL Elec Dwnld only (A1531436)
>
> 100GB Solid State Drive SATA Mainstream 2.5in HotPlug Hard Drive (341-9355) - Quantity 4
>
> 146GB 15K RPM Serial-Attach SCSI 3Gbps 2.5-in HotPlug Hard Drive MD1120, Customer Install (341-8972) - Quantity 2
>
> iDRAC6 Enterprise (467-8648)
>
> DVD ROM, SATA, INTERNAL (313-9092)
>
> Riser with 2 PCIe x8 + 2 PCIe x4 Slot (320-7886)
>
> Electronic System Documentation and OpenManage DVD Kit (330-3485)
>
> Dell Management Console (330-5280)
>
> RAID 10 for H700 or PERC 6/i Controllers, SSD Hard Drives (341-9148)
>
> Sliding Ready Rails With CableManagement Arm (330-3477)
>
> Thank you choosing Dell ProSupport. For tech support, visit http://support.dell.com/ProSupport or call 1-800-9 (989-3439)
>
> Mission Critical Package: 4-Hour 7x24 On-Site Service with Emergency Dispatch, 2 Year Extended (992-8162)
>
> ProSupport : 7x24 HW / SW Tech Support and Assistance , 3 Year (992-8352)
>
> Mission Critical Package: 4-Hour 7x24 On-Site Service with Emergency Dispatch, Initial Year (993-2200)
>
> Dell Hardware Limited Warranty Plus On Site Service Initial Year (993-8447)
>
> Dell Hardware Limited Warranty Extended Year (993-8458)
>
> MISSION CRITICAL PACKAGE: Enhanced Services, 3 Year (993-8518)
>
> High Output Power Supply Redundant, 870W (330-3475)
>
8
Is that a very recent development? We are currently using non-Dell drives on
a Perc controller. The server is about a year old.

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 3:43 AM, markbetts66 <mbetts@...>wrote:

>
>
> Which SSD drives are you planing on using? The dell drives are overpriced
> but the PERC controllers have been locked to stop usage of 3rd part hard
> drives.
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <vantage%40yahoogroups.com>, "Steven"
> <sgotschall@...> wrote:
> >
> > We are looking at purchasing a new server in advance of upgradeing from
> 8.03 to 9.05 (Progress). I would appeciate any comments on the hardware
> specs listed below:
> >
> > PE R710 with Chassis for Up to 8, 2.5-Inch Hard Drives and Intel 56XX
> Processors (224-8461)
> >
> > PowerEdge R710 Shipping (330-4124)
> >
> > 32GB Memory (8x4GB), 1333MHz Dual Ranked RDIMMs for 2 Processors,
> Advanced ECC (317-2062)
> >
> > Embedded Broadcom, GB Ethernet NICS with TOE (430-1764)
> >
> > Intel Xeon X5650, 2.66Ghz, 12M Cache,Turbo, HT, 1333MHz Max Mem
> (317-4109)
> >
> > PowerEdge R710 Heat Sinks for 2 Processors (317-1213)
> >
> > Intel Xeon X5650, 2.66Ghz, 12M Cache,Turbo, HT, 1333MHz Max Mem
> (317-4121)
> >
> > HD Multi-Select (341-4158)
> >
> > PERC H700 Integrated RAID Controller, 1GB NV Cache, x8 (342-1615)
> >
> > Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C13, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter
> (310-8509)
> >
> > Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C13, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter
> (310-8509)
> >
> > ELEC DWNLD ONLY OLP WINSVRENT 2008R2 SNGL NL (A3064282) 1
> > ELEC DWNLD ONLY OLP WIN SVR CAL 2008 SNGL NL USER CAL Elec Dwnld only
> (A1531436)
> >
> > 100GB Solid State Drive SATA Mainstream 2.5in HotPlug Hard Drive
> (341-9355) - Quantity 4
> >
> > 146GB 15K RPM Serial-Attach SCSI 3Gbps 2.5-in HotPlug Hard Drive MD1120,
> Customer Install (341-8972) - Quantity 2
> >
> > iDRAC6 Enterprise (467-8648)
> >
> > DVD ROM, SATA, INTERNAL (313-9092)
> >
> > Riser with 2 PCIe x8 + 2 PCIe x4 Slot (320-7886)
> >
> > Electronic System Documentation and OpenManage DVD Kit (330-3485)
> >
> > Dell Management Console (330-5280)
> >
> > RAID 10 for H700 or PERC 6/i Controllers, SSD Hard Drives (341-9148)
> >
> > Sliding Ready Rails With CableManagement Arm (330-3477)
> >
> > Thank you choosing Dell ProSupport. For tech support, visit
> http://support.dell.com/ProSupport or call 1-800-9 (989-3439)
> >
> > Mission Critical Package: 4-Hour 7x24 On-Site Service with Emergency
> Dispatch, 2 Year Extended (992-8162)
> >
> > ProSupport : 7x24 HW / SW Tech Support and Assistance , 3 Year (992-8352)
> >
> > Mission Critical Package: 4-Hour 7x24 On-Site Service with Emergency
> Dispatch, Initial Year (993-2200)
> >
> > Dell Hardware Limited Warranty Plus On Site Service Initial Year
> (993-8447)
> >
> > Dell Hardware Limited Warranty Extended Year (993-8458)
> >
> > MISSION CRITICAL PACKAGE: Enhanced Services, 3 Year (993-8518)
> >
> > High Output Power Supply Redundant, 870W (330-3475)
> >
>
>
>


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9
I am not sure I understand the use of SS drives. What are they going to be used for? They are slower than the SCSI drives. What size is your database and how many users? Personally I would use the 146gb 15K rpm drives in a raid 10 to store the database and two of the same drives mirrored for the boot drives as well as the Vantage and Openedge program folders. If you have more than 30 users I would suggest dual quadcore zeon processors in order to handle the extra processes like print jobs that occur. Be sure to get a dual channel controller as well, otherwise you lose the advantage of separate raid sets.

If you have to run MRP that is another consideration. There the speed of your processors plays a large roll in how long it will take to run.

Charles Carden
IT Manager
Manitex, Inc.
Georgetown, Texas
----- Original Message -----
From: markbetts66
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 2:43 AM
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Server Hardware



Which SSD drives are you planing on using? The dell drives are overpriced but the PERC controllers have been locked to stop usage of 3rd part hard drives.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Steven" <sgotschall@...> wrote:
>
> We are looking at purchasing a new server in advance of upgradeing from 8.03 to 9.05 (Progress). I would appeciate any comments on the hardware specs listed below:
>
> PE R710 with Chassis for Up to 8, 2.5-Inch Hard Drives and Intel 56XX Processors (224-8461)
>
> PowerEdge R710 Shipping (330-4124)
>
> 32GB Memory (8x4GB), 1333MHz Dual Ranked RDIMMs for 2 Processors, Advanced ECC (317-2062)
>
> Embedded Broadcom, GB Ethernet NICS with TOE (430-1764)
>
> Intel Xeon X5650, 2.66Ghz, 12M Cache,Turbo, HT, 1333MHz Max Mem (317-4109)
>
> PowerEdge R710 Heat Sinks for 2 Processors (317-1213)
>
> Intel Xeon X5650, 2.66Ghz, 12M Cache,Turbo, HT, 1333MHz Max Mem (317-4121)
>
> HD Multi-Select (341-4158)
>
> PERC H700 Integrated RAID Controller, 1GB NV Cache, x8 (342-1615)
>
> Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C13, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter (310-8509)
>
> Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C13, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter (310-8509)
>
> ELEC DWNLD ONLY OLP WINSVRENT 2008R2 SNGL NL (A3064282) 1
> ELEC DWNLD ONLY OLP WIN SVR CAL 2008 SNGL NL USER CAL Elec Dwnld only (A1531436)
>
> 100GB Solid State Drive SATA Mainstream 2.5in HotPlug Hard Drive (341-9355) - Quantity 4
>
> 146GB 15K RPM Serial-Attach SCSI 3Gbps 2.5-in HotPlug Hard Drive MD1120, Customer Install (341-8972) - Quantity 2
>
> iDRAC6 Enterprise (467-8648)
>
> DVD ROM, SATA, INTERNAL (313-9092)
>
> Riser with 2 PCIe x8 + 2 PCIe x4 Slot (320-7886)
>
> Electronic System Documentation and OpenManage DVD Kit (330-3485)
>
> Dell Management Console (330-5280)
>
> RAID 10 for H700 or PERC 6/i Controllers, SSD Hard Drives (341-9148)
>
> Sliding Ready Rails With CableManagement Arm (330-3477)
>
> Thank you choosing Dell ProSupport. For tech support, visit http://support.dell.com/ProSupport or call 1-800-9 (989-3439)
>
> Mission Critical Package: 4-Hour 7x24 On-Site Service with Emergency Dispatch, 2 Year Extended (992-8162)
>
> ProSupport : 7x24 HW / SW Tech Support and Assistance , 3 Year (992-8352)
>
> Mission Critical Package: 4-Hour 7x24 On-Site Service with Emergency Dispatch, Initial Year (993-2200)
>
> Dell Hardware Limited Warranty Plus On Site Service Initial Year (993-8447)
>
> Dell Hardware Limited Warranty Extended Year (993-8458)
>
> MISSION CRITICAL PACKAGE: Enhanced Services, 3 Year (993-8518)
>
> High Output Power Supply Redundant, 870W (330-3475)
>





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
10
This was the case for the new PERC H700/800 card. After I posted I had a quick look around to see if the situation has changed, which it has. As far as I can tell you need to upgrade the firmware of the PERC to A2 to unlock 3rd party drive support. The firmware was released 2-3~ months ago.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Waffqle Driggers <waffqle@...> wrote:
>
> Is that a very recent development? We are currently using non-Dell drives on
> a Perc controller. The server is about a year old.
>
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 3:43 AM, markbetts66 <mbetts@...>wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Which SSD drives are you planing on using? The dell drives are overpriced
> > but the PERC controllers have been locked to stop usage of 3rd part hard
> > drives.
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <vantage%40yahoogroups.com>, "Steven"
> > <sgotschall@> wrote:
> > >
> > > We are looking at purchasing a new server in advance of upgradeing from
> > 8.03 to 9.05 (Progress). I would appeciate any comments on the hardware
> > specs listed below:
> > >
> > > PE R710 with Chassis for Up to 8, 2.5-Inch Hard Drives and Intel 56XX
> > Processors (224-8461)
> > >
> > > PowerEdge R710 Shipping (330-4124)
> > >
> > > 32GB Memory (8x4GB), 1333MHz Dual Ranked RDIMMs for 2 Processors,
> > Advanced ECC (317-2062)
> > >
> > > Embedded Broadcom, GB Ethernet NICS with TOE (430-1764)
> > >
> > > Intel Xeon X5650, 2.66Ghz, 12M Cache,Turbo, HT, 1333MHz Max Mem
> > (317-4109)
> > >
> > > PowerEdge R710 Heat Sinks for 2 Processors (317-1213)
> > >
> > > Intel Xeon X5650, 2.66Ghz, 12M Cache,Turbo, HT, 1333MHz Max Mem
> > (317-4121)
> > >
> > > HD Multi-Select (341-4158)
> > >
> > > PERC H700 Integrated RAID Controller, 1GB NV Cache, x8 (342-1615)
> > >
> > > Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C13, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter
> > (310-8509)
> > >
> > > Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C13, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter
> > (310-8509)
> > >
> > > ELEC DWNLD ONLY OLP WINSVRENT 2008R2 SNGL NL (A3064282) 1
> > > ELEC DWNLD ONLY OLP WIN SVR CAL 2008 SNGL NL USER CAL Elec Dwnld only
> > (A1531436)
> > >
> > > 100GB Solid State Drive SATA Mainstream 2.5in HotPlug Hard Drive
> > (341-9355) - Quantity 4
> > >
> > > 146GB 15K RPM Serial-Attach SCSI 3Gbps 2.5-in HotPlug Hard Drive MD1120,
> > Customer Install (341-8972) - Quantity 2
> > >
> > > iDRAC6 Enterprise (467-8648)
> > >
> > > DVD ROM, SATA, INTERNAL (313-9092)
> > >
> > > Riser with 2 PCIe x8 + 2 PCIe x4 Slot (320-7886)
> > >
> > > Electronic System Documentation and OpenManage DVD Kit (330-3485)
> > >
> > > Dell Management Console (330-5280)
> > >
> > > RAID 10 for H700 or PERC 6/i Controllers, SSD Hard Drives (341-9148)
> > >
> > > Sliding Ready Rails With CableManagement Arm (330-3477)
> > >
> > > Thank you choosing Dell ProSupport. For tech support, visit
> > http://support.dell.com/ProSupport or call 1-800-9 (989-3439)
> > >
> > > Mission Critical Package: 4-Hour 7x24 On-Site Service with Emergency
> > Dispatch, 2 Year Extended (992-8162)
> > >
> > > ProSupport : 7x24 HW / SW Tech Support and Assistance , 3 Year (992-8352)
> > >
> > > Mission Critical Package: 4-Hour 7x24 On-Site Service with Emergency
> > Dispatch, Initial Year (993-2200)
> > >
> > > Dell Hardware Limited Warranty Plus On Site Service Initial Year
> > (993-8447)
> > >
> > > Dell Hardware Limited Warranty Extended Year (993-8458)
> > >
> > > MISSION CRITICAL PACKAGE: Enhanced Services, 3 Year (993-8518)
> > >
> > > High Output Power Supply Redundant, 870W (330-3475)
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
11
SSD's are massively faster for Random IO then SCSI. 4 Intel x25-e's will outperform 8 15k SAS drives at random I/O.

Andtech did a very good review on the Intel X25-E's for use in enterprise computing. In turned out that a real-world 20gb MySQL db performed better on one(1) ssd drive for the DB and one normal SAS drive for the log then eight (8) SAS 15k for the DB + 2 SAS for the log.

here is the article:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2739/1


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Charles Carden" <shadowcar1449@...> wrote:
>
> I am not sure I understand the use of SS drives. What are they going to be used for? They are slower than the SCSI drives. What size is your database and how many users? Personally I would use the 146gb 15K rpm drives in a raid 10 to store the database and two of the same drives mirrored for the boot drives as well as the Vantage and Openedge program folders. If you have more than 30 users I would suggest dual quadcore zeon processors in order to handle the extra processes like print jobs that occur. Be sure to get a dual channel controller as well, otherwise you lose the advantage of separate raid sets.
>
> If you have to run MRP that is another consideration. There the speed of your processors plays a large roll in how long it will take to run.
>
> Charles Carden
> IT Manager
> Manitex, Inc.
> Georgetown, Texas
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: markbetts66
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 2:43 AM
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Server Hardware
>
>
>
> Which SSD drives are you planing on using? The dell drives are overpriced but the PERC controllers have been locked to stop usage of 3rd part hard drives.
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Steven" <sgotschall@> wrote:
> >
> > We are looking at purchasing a new server in advance of upgradeing from 8.03 to 9.05 (Progress). I would appeciate any comments on the hardware specs listed below:
> >
> > PE R710 with Chassis for Up to 8, 2.5-Inch Hard Drives and Intel 56XX Processors (224-8461)
> >
> > PowerEdge R710 Shipping (330-4124)
> >
> > 32GB Memory (8x4GB), 1333MHz Dual Ranked RDIMMs for 2 Processors, Advanced ECC (317-2062)
> >
> > Embedded Broadcom, GB Ethernet NICS with TOE (430-1764)
> >
> > Intel Xeon X5650, 2.66Ghz, 12M Cache,Turbo, HT, 1333MHz Max Mem (317-4109)
> >
> > PowerEdge R710 Heat Sinks for 2 Processors (317-1213)
> >
> > Intel Xeon X5650, 2.66Ghz, 12M Cache,Turbo, HT, 1333MHz Max Mem (317-4121)
> >
> > HD Multi-Select (341-4158)
> >
> > PERC H700 Integrated RAID Controller, 1GB NV Cache, x8 (342-1615)
> >
> > Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C13, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter (310-8509)
> >
> > Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C13, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter (310-8509)
> >
> > ELEC DWNLD ONLY OLP WINSVRENT 2008R2 SNGL NL (A3064282) 1
> > ELEC DWNLD ONLY OLP WIN SVR CAL 2008 SNGL NL USER CAL Elec Dwnld only (A1531436)
> >
> > 100GB Solid State Drive SATA Mainstream 2.5in HotPlug Hard Drive (341-9355) - Quantity 4
> >
> > 146GB 15K RPM Serial-Attach SCSI 3Gbps 2.5-in HotPlug Hard Drive MD1120, Customer Install (341-8972) - Quantity 2
> >
> > iDRAC6 Enterprise (467-8648)
> >
> > DVD ROM, SATA, INTERNAL (313-9092)
> >
> > Riser with 2 PCIe x8 + 2 PCIe x4 Slot (320-7886)
> >
> > Electronic System Documentation and OpenManage DVD Kit (330-3485)
> >
> > Dell Management Console (330-5280)
> >
> > RAID 10 for H700 or PERC 6/i Controllers, SSD Hard Drives (341-9148)
> >
> > Sliding Ready Rails With CableManagement Arm (330-3477)
> >
> > Thank you choosing Dell ProSupport. For tech support, visit http://support.dell.com/ProSupport or call 1-800-9 (989-3439)
> >
> > Mission Critical Package: 4-Hour 7x24 On-Site Service with Emergency Dispatch, 2 Year Extended (992-8162)
> >
> > ProSupport : 7x24 HW / SW Tech Support and Assistance , 3 Year (992-8352)
> >
> > Mission Critical Package: 4-Hour 7x24 On-Site Service with Emergency Dispatch, Initial Year (993-2200)
> >
> > Dell Hardware Limited Warranty Plus On Site Service Initial Year (993-8447)
> >
> > Dell Hardware Limited Warranty Extended Year (993-8458)
> >
> > MISSION CRITICAL PACKAGE: Enhanced Services, 3 Year (993-8518)
> >
> > High Output Power Supply Redundant, 870W (330-3475)
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
12
They are Dell, but I don't have any specs on them, just the part number.




________________________________
From: markbetts66 <mbetts@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 15, 2010 3:43:36 AM
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Server Hardware

Â
Which SSD drives are you planing on using? The dell drives are overpriced but
the PERC controllers have been locked to stop usage of 3rd part hard drives.


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Steven" <sgotschall@...> wrote:
>
> We are looking at purchasing a new server in advance of upgradeing from 8.03 to
>9.05 (Progress). I would appeciate any comments on the hardware specs listed
>below:
>
> PE R710 with Chassis for Up to 8, 2.5-Inch Hard Drives and Intel 56XX
>Processors (224-8461)
>
> PowerEdge R710 Shipping (330-4124)
>
> 32GB Memory (8x4GB), 1333MHz Dual Ranked RDIMMs for 2 Processors, Advanced ECC
>(317-2062)
>
> Embedded Broadcom, GB Ethernet NICS with TOE (430-1764)
>
> Intel Xeon X5650, 2.66Ghz, 12M Cache,Turbo, HT, 1333MHz Max Mem (317-4109)
>
> PowerEdge R710 Heat Sinks for 2 Processors (317-1213)
>
> Intel Xeon X5650, 2.66Ghz, 12M Cache,Turbo, HT, 1333MHz Max Mem (317-4121)
>
> HD Multi-Select (341-4158)
>
> PERC H700 Integrated RAID Controller, 1GB NV Cache, x8 (342-1615)
>
> Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C13, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter (310-8509)
>
> Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C13, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter (310-8509)
>
> ELEC DWNLD ONLY OLP WINSVRENT 2008R2 SNGL NL (A3064282) 1
> ELEC DWNLD ONLY OLP WIN SVR CAL 2008 SNGL NL USER CAL Elec Dwnld only
>(A1531436)
>
> 100GB Solid State Drive SATA Mainstream 2.5in HotPlug Hard Drive (341-9355) -
>Quantity 4
>
> 146GB 15K RPM Serial-Attach SCSI 3Gbps 2.5-in HotPlug Hard Drive MD1120,
>Customer Install (341-8972) - Quantity 2
>
> iDRAC6 Enterprise (467-8648)
>
> DVD ROM, SATA, INTERNAL (313-9092)
>
> Riser with 2 PCIe x8 + 2 PCIe x4 Slot (320-7886)
>
> Electronic System Documentation and OpenManage DVD Kit (330-3485)
>
> Dell Management Console (330-5280)
>
> RAID 10 for H700 or PERC 6/i Controllers, SSD Hard Drives (341-9148)
>
> Sliding Ready Rails With CableManagement Arm (330-3477)
>
> Thank you choosing Dell ProSupport. For tech support, visit
>http://support.dell.com/ProSupport or call 1-800-9 (989-3439)
>
> Mission Critical Package: 4-Hour 7x24 On-Site Service with Emergency Dispatch,
>2 Year Extended (992-8162)
>
> ProSupport : 7x24 HW / SW Tech Support and Assistance , 3 Year (992-8352)
>
> Mission Critical Package: 4-Hour 7x24 On-Site Service with Emergency Dispatch,
>Initial Year (993-2200)
>
> Dell Hardware Limited Warranty Plus On Site Service Initial Year (993-8447)
>
> Dell Hardware Limited Warranty Extended Year (993-8458)
>
> MISSION CRITICAL PACKAGE: Enhanced Services, 3 Year (993-8518)
>
> High Output Power Supply Redundant, 870W (330-3475)
>







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
13
I would advise you shop around for 3rd party SSD drives.

Intel's X25-E's are the best in the market, targeted at enterprise and are no where near as expensive as Dell's SSD but the current top capacity is 64GB.

Alternatively you could look at the OCZ vertex 2E drives. These are not specifically targeted at enterprise (they are MLC based) but are showing great performance in the random 4k area which is pivotal for SQL. These drives do come in 240GB flavors and will set you back £350~ a drive.

What RAID config are you thinking about for your SSD's? You may want to investigate not spending the money on the 1GB PERC. When its attached to SSD's I _think_ it just passes through the cache and goes directly to disk. The PERC controller, like all on the market ATM, will also not pass the TRIM command to the drives.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Steven Gotschall <sgotschall@...> wrote:
>
> They are Dell, but I don't have any specs on them, just the part number.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: markbetts66 <mbetts@...>
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, November 15, 2010 3:43:36 AM
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Server Hardware
>
> ÂÂ
> Which SSD drives are you planing on using? The dell drives are overpriced but
> the PERC controllers have been locked to stop usage of 3rd part hard drives.
>
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Steven" <sgotschall@> wrote:
> >
> > We are looking at purchasing a new server in advance of upgradeing from 8.03 to
> >9.05 (Progress). I would appeciate any comments on the hardware specs listed
> >below:
> >
> > PE R710 with Chassis for Up to 8, 2.5-Inch Hard Drives and Intel 56XX
> >Processors (224-8461)
> >
> > PowerEdge R710 Shipping (330-4124)
> >
> > 32GB Memory (8x4GB), 1333MHz Dual Ranked RDIMMs for 2 Processors, Advanced ECC
> >(317-2062)
> >
> > Embedded Broadcom, GB Ethernet NICS with TOE (430-1764)
> >
> > Intel Xeon X5650, 2.66Ghz, 12M Cache,Turbo, HT, 1333MHz Max Mem (317-4109)
> >
> > PowerEdge R710 Heat Sinks for 2 Processors (317-1213)
> >
> > Intel Xeon X5650, 2.66Ghz, 12M Cache,Turbo, HT, 1333MHz Max Mem (317-4121)
> >
> > HD Multi-Select (341-4158)
> >
> > PERC H700 Integrated RAID Controller, 1GB NV Cache, x8 (342-1615)
> >
> > Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C13, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter (310-8509)
> >
> > Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C13, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter (310-8509)
> >
> > ELEC DWNLD ONLY OLP WINSVRENT 2008R2 SNGL NL (A3064282) 1
> > ELEC DWNLD ONLY OLP WIN SVR CAL 2008 SNGL NL USER CAL Elec Dwnld only
> >(A1531436)
> >
> > 100GB Solid State Drive SATA Mainstream 2.5in HotPlug Hard Drive (341-9355) -
> >Quantity 4
> >
> > 146GB 15K RPM Serial-Attach SCSI 3Gbps 2.5-in HotPlug Hard Drive MD1120,
> >Customer Install (341-8972) - Quantity 2
> >
> > iDRAC6 Enterprise (467-8648)
> >
> > DVD ROM, SATA, INTERNAL (313-9092)
> >
> > Riser with 2 PCIe x8 + 2 PCIe x4 Slot (320-7886)
> >
> > Electronic System Documentation and OpenManage DVD Kit (330-3485)
> >
> > Dell Management Console (330-5280)
> >
> > RAID 10 for H700 or PERC 6/i Controllers, SSD Hard Drives (341-9148)
> >
> > Sliding Ready Rails With CableManagement Arm (330-3477)
> >
> > Thank you choosing Dell ProSupport. For tech support, visit
> >http://support.dell.com/ProSupport or call 1-800-9 (989-3439)
> >
> > Mission Critical Package: 4-Hour 7x24 On-Site Service with Emergency Dispatch,
> >2 Year Extended (992-8162)
> >
> > ProSupport : 7x24 HW / SW Tech Support and Assistance , 3 Year (992-8352)
> >
> > Mission Critical Package: 4-Hour 7x24 On-Site Service with Emergency Dispatch,
> >Initial Year (993-2200)
> >
> > Dell Hardware Limited Warranty Plus On Site Service Initial Year (993-8447)
> >
> > Dell Hardware Limited Warranty Extended Year (993-8458)
> >
> > MISSION CRITICAL PACKAGE: Enhanced Services, 3 Year (993-8518)
> >
> > High Output Power Supply Redundant, 870W (330-3475)
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
14
The SSD drives will be Raid 10. The OS drive will be a raid 1.

Thanks for the advice on 3rd party SSD drives, but I did get a substantial
discount on this setup and the server has a 4 hour mission critical warrenty.Â
If I went with 3rd party drives, they wouldn't be covered by this warrenty.

The controller is a H700. Here are the specs:
PCI-Express Gen2.0 support
6Gb/s SAS (SAS 2.0) host interface
Doubles throughput performance capability
Increased IOPS performance with Cut-Through IO & SSDs
Adds support for Self Encrypting Drives (SED)
Adds 512MB & 1GB Non-Volatile (NV) Cache to to PERC H700 & H800


________________________________
From: markbetts66 <mbetts@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 15, 2010 11:46:23 AM
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Server Hardware

Â
I would advise you shop around for 3rd party SSD drives.

Intel's X25-E's are the best in the market, targeted at enterprise and are no
where near as expensive as Dell's SSD but the current top capacity is 64GB.

Alternatively you could look at the OCZ vertex 2E drives. These are not
specifically targeted at enterprise (they are MLC based) but are showing great
performance in the random 4k area which is pivotal for SQL. These drives do come
in 240GB flavors and will set you back £350~ a drive.

What RAID config are you thinking about for your SSD's? You may want to
investigate not spending the money on the 1GB PERC. When its attached to SSD's I
_think_ it just passes through the cache and goes directly to disk. The PERC
controller, like all on the market ATM, will also not pass the TRIM command to
the drives.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Steven Gotschall <sgotschall@...> wrote:
>
> They are Dell, but I don't have any specs on them, just the part number.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: markbetts66 <mbetts@...>
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, November 15, 2010 3:43:36 AM
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Server Hardware
>
> ÂÂ
> Which SSD drives are you planing on using? The dell drives are overpriced but
> the PERC controllers have been locked to stop usage of 3rd part hard drives.
>
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Steven" <sgotschall@> wrote:
> >
> > We are looking at purchasing a new server in advance of upgradeing from 8.03
>to
>
> >9.05 (Progress). I would appeciate any comments on the hardware specs listed
> >below:
> >
> > PE R710 with Chassis for Up to 8, 2.5-Inch Hard Drives and Intel 56XX
> >Processors (224-8461)
> >
> > PowerEdge R710 Shipping (330-4124)
> >
> > 32GB Memory (8x4GB), 1333MHz Dual Ranked RDIMMs for 2 Processors, Advanced
>ECC
>
> >(317-2062)
> >
> > Embedded Broadcom, GB Ethernet NICS with TOE (430-1764)
> >
> > Intel Xeon X5650, 2.66Ghz, 12M Cache,Turbo, HT, 1333MHz Max Mem (317-4109)
> >
> > PowerEdge R710 Heat Sinks for 2 Processors (317-1213)
> >
> > Intel Xeon X5650, 2.66Ghz, 12M Cache,Turbo, HT, 1333MHz Max Mem (317-4121)
> >
> > HD Multi-Select (341-4158)
> >
> > PERC H700 Integrated RAID Controller, 1GB NV Cache, x8 (342-1615)
> >
> > Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C13, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter
>(310-8509)
> >
> > Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C13, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter
>(310-8509)
> >
> > ELEC DWNLD ONLY OLP WINSVRENT 2008R2 SNGL NL (A3064282) 1
> > ELEC DWNLD ONLY OLP WIN SVR CAL 2008 SNGL NL USER CAL Elec Dwnld only
> >(A1531436)
> >
> > 100GB Solid State Drive SATA Mainstream 2.5in HotPlug Hard Drive (341-9355) -
>
> >Quantity 4
> >
> > 146GB 15K RPM Serial-Attach SCSI 3Gbps 2.5-in HotPlug Hard Drive MD1120,
> >Customer Install (341-8972) - Quantity 2
> >
> > iDRAC6 Enterprise (467-8648)
> >
> > DVD ROM, SATA, INTERNAL (313-9092)
> >
> > Riser with 2 PCIe x8 + 2 PCIe x4 Slot (320-7886)
> >
> > Electronic System Documentation and OpenManage DVD Kit (330-3485)
> >
> > Dell Management Console (330-5280)
> >
> > RAID 10 for H700 or PERC 6/i Controllers, SSD Hard Drives (341-9148)
> >
> > Sliding Ready Rails With CableManagement Arm (330-3477)
> >
> > Thank you choosing Dell ProSupport. For tech support, visit
> >http://support.dell.com/ProSupport or call 1-800-9 (989-3439)
> >
> > Mission Critical Package: 4-Hour 7x24 On-Site Service with Emergency
>Dispatch,
>
> >2 Year Extended (992-8162)
> >
> > ProSupport : 7x24 HW / SW Tech Support and Assistance , 3 Year (992-8352)
> >
> > Mission Critical Package: 4-Hour 7x24 On-Site Service with Emergency
>Dispatch,
>
> >Initial Year (993-2200)
> >
> > Dell Hardware Limited Warranty Plus On Site Service Initial Year (993-8447)
> >
> > Dell Hardware Limited Warranty Extended Year (993-8458)
> >
> > MISSION CRITICAL PACKAGE: Enhanced Services, 3 Year (993-8518)
> >
> > High Output Power Supply Redundant, 870W (330-3475)
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
15
Is 4 SSD's enough for the database in raid 10?



_____

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Steven Gotschall
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:59 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Server Hardware





They are Dell, but I don't have any specs on them, just the part number.

________________________________
From: markbetts66 <mbetts@...
<mailto:mbetts%40thomasdudley.co.uk> >
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, November 15, 2010 3:43:36 AM
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Server Hardware


Which SSD drives are you planing on using? The dell drives are overpriced
but
the PERC controllers have been locked to stop usage of 3rd part hard drives.


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Steven"
<sgotschall@...> wrote:
>
> We are looking at purchasing a new server in advance of upgradeing from
8.03 to
>9.05 (Progress). I would appeciate any comments on the hardware specs
listed
>below:
>
> PE R710 with Chassis for Up to 8, 2.5-Inch Hard Drives and Intel 56XX
>Processors (224-8461)
>
> PowerEdge R710 Shipping (330-4124)
>
> 32GB Memory (8x4GB), 1333MHz Dual Ranked RDIMMs for 2 Processors, Advanced
ECC
>(317-2062)
>
> Embedded Broadcom, GB Ethernet NICS with TOE (430-1764)
>
> Intel Xeon X5650, 2.66Ghz, 12M Cache,Turbo, HT, 1333MHz Max Mem (317-4109)
>
> PowerEdge R710 Heat Sinks for 2 Processors (317-1213)
>
> Intel Xeon X5650, 2.66Ghz, 12M Cache,Turbo, HT, 1333MHz Max Mem (317-4121)
>
> HD Multi-Select (341-4158)
>
> PERC H700 Integrated RAID Controller, 1GB NV Cache, x8 (342-1615)
>
> Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C13, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter
(310-8509)
>
> Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C13, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter
(310-8509)
>
> ELEC DWNLD ONLY OLP WINSVRENT 2008R2 SNGL NL (A3064282) 1
> ELEC DWNLD ONLY OLP WIN SVR CAL 2008 SNGL NL USER CAL Elec Dwnld only
>(A1531436)
>
> 100GB Solid State Drive SATA Mainstream 2.5in HotPlug Hard Drive
(341-9355) -
>Quantity 4
>
> 146GB 15K RPM Serial-Attach SCSI 3Gbps 2.5-in HotPlug Hard Drive MD1120,
>Customer Install (341-8972) - Quantity 2
>
> iDRAC6 Enterprise (467-8648)
>
> DVD ROM, SATA, INTERNAL (313-9092)
>
> Riser with 2 PCIe x8 + 2 PCIe x4 Slot (320-7886)
>
> Electronic System Documentation and OpenManage DVD Kit (330-3485)
>
> Dell Management Console (330-5280)
>
> RAID 10 for H700 or PERC 6/i Controllers, SSD Hard Drives (341-9148)
>
> Sliding Ready Rails With CableManagement Arm (330-3477)
>
> Thank you choosing Dell ProSupport. For tech support, visit
>http://support.dell.com/ProSupport or call 1-800-9 (989-3439)
>
> Mission Critical Package: 4-Hour 7x24 On-Site Service with Emergency
Dispatch,
>2 Year Extended (992-8162)
>
> ProSupport : 7x24 HW / SW Tech Support and Assistance , 3 Year (992-8352)
>
> Mission Critical Package: 4-Hour 7x24 On-Site Service with Emergency
Dispatch,
>Initial Year (993-2200)
>
> Dell Hardware Limited Warranty Plus On Site Service Initial Year
(993-8447)
>
> Dell Hardware Limited Warranty Extended Year (993-8458)
>
> MISSION CRITICAL PACKAGE: Enhanced Services, 3 Year (993-8518)
>
> High Output Power Supply Redundant, 870W (330-3475)
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
16
Why RAID 10 on SSD? Isn't striping to speed up access when using spindles?

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Brad Ebright" <bebright@...> wrote:
>
> Is 4 SSD's enough for the database in raid 10?
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Steven Gotschall
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:59 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Server Hardware
>
>
>
>
>
> They are Dell, but I don't have any specs on them, just the part number.
>
> ________________________________
> From: markbetts66 <mbetts@...
> <mailto:mbetts%40thomasdudley.co.uk> >
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Mon, November 15, 2010 3:43:36 AM
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Server Hardware
>
>
> Which SSD drives are you planing on using? The dell drives are overpriced
> but
> the PERC controllers have been locked to stop usage of 3rd part hard drives.
>
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Steven"
> <sgotschall@> wrote:
> >
> > We are looking at purchasing a new server in advance of upgradeing from
> 8.03 to
> >9.05 (Progress). I would appeciate any comments on the hardware specs
> listed
> >below:
> >
> > PE R710 with Chassis for Up to 8, 2.5-Inch Hard Drives and Intel 56XX
> >Processors (224-8461)
> >
> > PowerEdge R710 Shipping (330-4124)
> >
> > 32GB Memory (8x4GB), 1333MHz Dual Ranked RDIMMs for 2 Processors, Advanced
> ECC
> >(317-2062)
> >
> > Embedded Broadcom, GB Ethernet NICS with TOE (430-1764)
> >
> > Intel Xeon X5650, 2.66Ghz, 12M Cache,Turbo, HT, 1333MHz Max Mem (317-4109)
> >
> > PowerEdge R710 Heat Sinks for 2 Processors (317-1213)
> >
> > Intel Xeon X5650, 2.66Ghz, 12M Cache,Turbo, HT, 1333MHz Max Mem (317-4121)
> >
> > HD Multi-Select (341-4158)
> >
> > PERC H700 Integrated RAID Controller, 1GB NV Cache, x8 (342-1615)
> >
> > Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C13, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter
> (310-8509)
> >
> > Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C13, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter
> (310-8509)
> >
> > ELEC DWNLD ONLY OLP WINSVRENT 2008R2 SNGL NL (A3064282) 1
> > ELEC DWNLD ONLY OLP WIN SVR CAL 2008 SNGL NL USER CAL Elec Dwnld only
> >(A1531436)
> >
> > 100GB Solid State Drive SATA Mainstream 2.5in HotPlug Hard Drive
> (341-9355) -
> >Quantity 4
> >
> > 146GB 15K RPM Serial-Attach SCSI 3Gbps 2.5-in HotPlug Hard Drive MD1120,
> >Customer Install (341-8972) - Quantity 2
> >
> > iDRAC6 Enterprise (467-8648)
> >
> > DVD ROM, SATA, INTERNAL (313-9092)
> >
> > Riser with 2 PCIe x8 + 2 PCIe x4 Slot (320-7886)
> >
> > Electronic System Documentation and OpenManage DVD Kit (330-3485)
> >
> > Dell Management Console (330-5280)
> >
> > RAID 10 for H700 or PERC 6/i Controllers, SSD Hard Drives (341-9148)
> >
> > Sliding Ready Rails With CableManagement Arm (330-3477)
> >
> > Thank you choosing Dell ProSupport. For tech support, visit
> >http://support.dell.com/ProSupport or call 1-800-9 (989-3439)
> >
> > Mission Critical Package: 4-Hour 7x24 On-Site Service with Emergency
> Dispatch,
> >2 Year Extended (992-8162)
> >
> > ProSupport : 7x24 HW / SW Tech Support and Assistance , 3 Year (992-8352)
> >
> > Mission Critical Package: 4-Hour 7x24 On-Site Service with Emergency
> Dispatch,
> >Initial Year (993-2200)
> >
> > Dell Hardware Limited Warranty Plus On Site Service Initial Year
> (993-8447)
> >
> > Dell Hardware Limited Warranty Extended Year (993-8458)
> >
> > MISSION CRITICAL PACKAGE: Enhanced Services, 3 Year (993-8518)
> >
> > High Output Power Supply Redundant, 870W (330-3475)
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
17
If using SSD's, how would you set them up. We are going to be moving to 9.05
with about 50 users and 12 MES Stations.



_____

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
chris_robisch
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 3:49 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Server Hardware





Why RAID 10 on SSD? Isn't striping to speed up access when using spindles?

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Brad
Ebright" <bebright@...> wrote:
>
> Is 4 SSD's enough for the database in raid 10?
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of
> Steven Gotschall
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:59 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Server Hardware
>
>
>
>
>
> They are Dell, but I don't have any specs on them, just the part number.
>
> ________________________________
> From: markbetts66 <mbetts@...
> <mailto:mbetts%40thomasdudley.co.uk> >
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Mon, November 15, 2010 3:43:36 AM
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Server Hardware
>
>
> Which SSD drives are you planing on using? The dell drives are overpriced
> but
> the PERC controllers have been locked to stop usage of 3rd part hard
drives.
>
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Steven"
> <sgotschall@> wrote:
> >
> > We are looking at purchasing a new server in advance of upgradeing from
> 8.03 to
> >9.05 (Progress). I would appeciate any comments on the hardware specs
> listed
> >below:
> >
> > PE R710 with Chassis for Up to 8, 2.5-Inch Hard Drives and Intel 56XX
> >Processors (224-8461)
> >
> > PowerEdge R710 Shipping (330-4124)
> >
> > 32GB Memory (8x4GB), 1333MHz Dual Ranked RDIMMs for 2 Processors,
Advanced
> ECC
> >(317-2062)
> >
> > Embedded Broadcom, GB Ethernet NICS with TOE (430-1764)
> >
> > Intel Xeon X5650, 2.66Ghz, 12M Cache,Turbo, HT, 1333MHz Max Mem
(317-4109)
> >
> > PowerEdge R710 Heat Sinks for 2 Processors (317-1213)
> >
> > Intel Xeon X5650, 2.66Ghz, 12M Cache,Turbo, HT, 1333MHz Max Mem
(317-4121)
> >
> > HD Multi-Select (341-4158)
> >
> > PERC H700 Integrated RAID Controller, 1GB NV Cache, x8 (342-1615)
> >
> > Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C13, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter
> (310-8509)
> >
> > Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C13, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter
> (310-8509)
> >
> > ELEC DWNLD ONLY OLP WINSVRENT 2008R2 SNGL NL (A3064282) 1
> > ELEC DWNLD ONLY OLP WIN SVR CAL 2008 SNGL NL USER CAL Elec Dwnld only
> >(A1531436)
> >
> > 100GB Solid State Drive SATA Mainstream 2.5in HotPlug Hard Drive
> (341-9355) -
> >Quantity 4
> >
> > 146GB 15K RPM Serial-Attach SCSI 3Gbps 2.5-in HotPlug Hard Drive MD1120,

> >Customer Install (341-8972) - Quantity 2
> >
> > iDRAC6 Enterprise (467-8648)
> >
> > DVD ROM, SATA, INTERNAL (313-9092)
> >
> > Riser with 2 PCIe x8 + 2 PCIe x4 Slot (320-7886)
> >
> > Electronic System Documentation and OpenManage DVD Kit (330-3485)
> >
> > Dell Management Console (330-5280)
> >
> > RAID 10 for H700 or PERC 6/i Controllers, SSD Hard Drives (341-9148)
> >
> > Sliding Ready Rails With CableManagement Arm (330-3477)
> >
> > Thank you choosing Dell ProSupport. For tech support, visit
> >http://support.dell.com/ProSupport or call 1-800-9 (989-3439)
> >
> > Mission Critical Package: 4-Hour 7x24 On-Site Service with Emergency
> Dispatch,
> >2 Year Extended (992-8162)
> >
> > ProSupport : 7x24 HW / SW Tech Support and Assistance , 3 Year
(992-8352)
> >
> > Mission Critical Package: 4-Hour 7x24 On-Site Service with Emergency
> Dispatch,
> >Initial Year (993-2200)
> >
> > Dell Hardware Limited Warranty Plus On Site Service Initial Year
> (993-8447)
> >
> > Dell Hardware Limited Warranty Extended Year (993-8458)
> >
> > MISSION CRITICAL PACKAGE: Enhanced Services, 3 Year (993-8518)
> >
> > High Output Power Supply Redundant, 870W (330-3475)
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
18
4 drives are the min for raid 10. It would give me 200Gb of space and our
database is only 4Gb. I guess the question is "are 4 SSD drives better then 8
15K SCSI drives?".
Â
Â


________________________________
From: Brad Ebright <bebright@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 15, 2010 3:42:55 PM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Server Hardware

Â
Is 4 SSD's enough for the database in raid 10?

_____

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Steven Gotschall
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:59 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Server Hardware

They are Dell, but I don't have any specs on them, just the part number.

________________________________
From: markbetts66 <mbetts@...
<mailto:mbetts%40thomasdudley.co.uk> >
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, November 15, 2010 3:43:36 AM
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Server Hardware

Which SSD drives are you planing on using? The dell drives are overpriced
but
the PERC controllers have been locked to stop usage of 3rd part hard drives.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Steven"
<sgotschall@...> wrote:
>
> We are looking at purchasing a new server in advance of upgradeing from
8.03 to
>9.05 (Progress). I would appeciate any comments on the hardware specs
listed
>below:
>
> PE R710 with Chassis for Up to 8, 2.5-Inch Hard Drives and Intel 56XX
>Processors (224-8461)
>
> PowerEdge R710 Shipping (330-4124)
>
> 32GB Memory (8x4GB), 1333MHz Dual Ranked RDIMMs for 2 Processors, Advanced
ECC
>(317-2062)
>
> Embedded Broadcom, GB Ethernet NICS with TOE (430-1764)
>
> Intel Xeon X5650, 2.66Ghz, 12M Cache,Turbo, HT, 1333MHz Max Mem (317-4109)
>
> PowerEdge R710 Heat Sinks for 2 Processors (317-1213)
>
> Intel Xeon X5650, 2.66Ghz, 12M Cache,Turbo, HT, 1333MHz Max Mem (317-4121)
>
> HD Multi-Select (341-4158)
>
> PERC H700 Integrated RAID Controller, 1GB NV Cache, x8 (342-1615)
>
> Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C13, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter
(310-8509)
>
> Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C13, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter
(310-8509)
>
> ELEC DWNLD ONLY OLP WINSVRENT 2008R2 SNGL NL (A3064282) 1
> ELEC DWNLD ONLY OLP WIN SVR CAL 2008 SNGL NL USER CAL Elec Dwnld only
>(A1531436)
>
> 100GB Solid State Drive SATA Mainstream 2.5in HotPlug Hard Drive
(341-9355) -
>Quantity 4
>
> 146GB 15K RPM Serial-Attach SCSI 3Gbps 2.5-in HotPlug Hard Drive MD1120,
>Customer Install (341-8972) - Quantity 2
>
> iDRAC6 Enterprise (467-8648)
>
> DVD ROM, SATA, INTERNAL (313-9092)
>
> Riser with 2 PCIe x8 + 2 PCIe x4 Slot (320-7886)
>
> Electronic System Documentation and OpenManage DVD Kit (330-3485)
>
> Dell Management Console (330-5280)
>
> RAID 10 for H700 or PERC 6/i Controllers, SSD Hard Drives (341-9148)
>
> Sliding Ready Rails With CableManagement Arm (330-3477)
>
> Thank you choosing Dell ProSupport. For tech support, visit
>http://support.dell.com/ProSupport or call 1-800-9 (989-3439)
>
> Mission Critical Package: 4-Hour 7x24 On-Site Service with Emergency
Dispatch,
>2 Year Extended (992-8162)
>
> ProSupport : 7x24 HW / SW Tech Support and Assistance , 3 Year (992-8352)
>
> Mission Critical Package: 4-Hour 7x24 On-Site Service with Emergency
Dispatch,
>Initial Year (993-2200)
>
> Dell Hardware Limited Warranty Plus On Site Service Initial Year
(993-8447)
>
> Dell Hardware Limited Warranty Extended Year (993-8458)
>
> MISSION CRITICAL PACKAGE: Enhanced Services, 3 Year (993-8518)
>
> High Output Power Supply Redundant, 870W (330-3475)
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
19
There is still access time associated with SSD drives, so stripping with raid 10
should still improve their performance, although not as dramatically as with
spindles. That is why i am thinking 4 drives would be enough.
Â
 Â


________________________________
From: chris_robisch <bluewine@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 15, 2010 3:48:30 PM
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Server Hardware

Â
Why RAID 10 on SSD? Isn't striping to speed up access when using spindles?

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Brad Ebright" <bebright@...> wrote:
>
> Is 4 SSD's enough for the database in raid 10?
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Steven Gotschall
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:59 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Server Hardware
>
>
>
>
>
> They are Dell, but I don't have any specs on them, just the part number.
>
> ________________________________
> From: markbetts66 <mbetts@...
> <mailto:mbetts%40thomasdudley.co.uk> >
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Mon, November 15, 2010 3:43:36 AM
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Server Hardware
>
>
> Which SSD drives are you planing on using? The dell drives are overpriced
> but
> the PERC controllers have been locked to stop usage of 3rd part hard drives.
>
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Steven"
> <sgotschall@> wrote:
> >
> > We are looking at purchasing a new server in advance of upgradeing from
> 8.03 to
> >9.05 (Progress). I would appeciate any comments on the hardware specs
> listed
> >below:
> >
> > PE R710 with Chassis for Up to 8, 2.5-Inch Hard Drives and Intel 56XX
> >Processors (224-8461)
> >
> > PowerEdge R710 Shipping (330-4124)
> >
> > 32GB Memory (8x4GB), 1333MHz Dual Ranked RDIMMs for 2 Processors, Advanced
> ECC
> >(317-2062)
> >
> > Embedded Broadcom, GB Ethernet NICS with TOE (430-1764)
> >
> > Intel Xeon X5650, 2.66Ghz, 12M Cache,Turbo, HT, 1333MHz Max Mem (317-4109)
> >
> > PowerEdge R710 Heat Sinks for 2 Processors (317-1213)
> >
> > Intel Xeon X5650, 2.66Ghz, 12M Cache,Turbo, HT, 1333MHz Max Mem (317-4121)
> >
> > HD Multi-Select (341-4158)
> >
> > PERC H700 Integrated RAID Controller, 1GB NV Cache, x8 (342-1615)
> >
> > Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C13, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter
> (310-8509)
> >
> > Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C13, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter
> (310-8509)
> >
> > ELEC DWNLD ONLY OLP WINSVRENT 2008R2 SNGL NL (A3064282) 1
> > ELEC DWNLD ONLY OLP WIN SVR CAL 2008 SNGL NL USER CAL Elec Dwnld only
> >(A1531436)
> >
> > 100GB Solid State Drive SATA Mainstream 2.5in HotPlug Hard Drive
> (341-9355) -
> >Quantity 4
> >
> > 146GB 15K RPM Serial-Attach SCSI 3Gbps 2.5-in HotPlug Hard Drive MD1120,
> >Customer Install (341-8972) - Quantity 2
> >
> > iDRAC6 Enterprise (467-8648)
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But if its in the budget, more would be better? Or would it be that
insignificant of a difference to go to 6 drives?



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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Steven Gotschall
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 3:57 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Server Hardware





There is still access time associated with SSD drives, so stripping with
raid 10
should still improve their performance, although not as dramatically as with

spindles. That is why i am thinking 4 drives would be enough.



________________________________
From: chris_robisch <bluewine@... <mailto:bluewine%40cox.net> >
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, November 15, 2010 3:48:30 PM
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Server Hardware


Why RAID 10 on SSD? Isn't striping to speed up access when using spindles?

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Brad
Ebright" <bebright@...> wrote:
>
> Is 4 SSD's enough for the database in raid 10?
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of
> Steven Gotschall
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:59 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Server Hardware
>
>
>
>
>
> They are Dell, but I don't have any specs on them, just the part number.
>
> ________________________________
> From: markbetts66 <mbetts@...
> <mailto:mbetts%40thomasdudley.co.uk> >
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Mon, November 15, 2010 3:43:36 AM
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Server Hardware
>
>
> Which SSD drives are you planing on using? The dell drives are overpriced
> but
> the PERC controllers have been locked to stop usage of 3rd part hard
drives.
>
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Steven"
> <sgotschall@> wrote:
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> > We are looking at purchasing a new server in advance of upgradeing from
> 8.03 to
> >9.05 (Progress). I would appeciate any comments on the hardware specs
> listed
> >below:
> >
> > PE R710 with Chassis for Up to 8, 2.5-Inch Hard Drives and Intel 56XX
> >Processors (224-8461)
> >
> > PowerEdge R710 Shipping (330-4124)
> >
> > 32GB Memory (8x4GB), 1333MHz Dual Ranked RDIMMs for 2 Processors,
Advanced
> ECC
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> > Embedded Broadcom, GB Ethernet NICS with TOE (430-1764)
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> > Intel Xeon X5650, 2.66Ghz, 12M Cache,Turbo, HT, 1333MHz Max Mem
(317-4109)
> >
> > PowerEdge R710 Heat Sinks for 2 Processors (317-1213)
> >
> > Intel Xeon X5650, 2.66Ghz, 12M Cache,Turbo, HT, 1333MHz Max Mem
(317-4121)
> >
> > HD Multi-Select (341-4158)
> >
> > PERC H700 Integrated RAID Controller, 1GB NV Cache, x8 (342-1615)
> >
> > Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C13, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter
> (310-8509)
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> > Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C13, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter
> (310-8509)
> >
> > ELEC DWNLD ONLY OLP WINSVRENT 2008R2 SNGL NL (A3064282) 1
> > ELEC DWNLD ONLY OLP WIN SVR CAL 2008 SNGL NL USER CAL Elec Dwnld only
> >(A1531436)
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> (341-9355) -
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> >
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> >
> > Dell Management Console (330-5280)
> >
> > RAID 10 for H700 or PERC 6/i Controllers, SSD Hard Drives (341-9148)
> >
> > Sliding Ready Rails With CableManagement Arm (330-3477)
> >
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> (993-8447)
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