The one thing I have not seen listed in this thread is mentioned in the 803.400 MRP manual, which is better than any of the past manuals.
MRP or Job Creation will consider the latest approved revision by default if the USE PART REV flag is checked in the part master.
It goes on to say that if this flag is not checked in the part master, MRP/Job creation will use the revision that was specified on the sales order/etc, provided that it is approved.
I have no idea how this works with RFQ, PO entry...but it is a thought.
To: email@example.comFrom: robertb_versa@...: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 08:28:00 -0700Subject: RE: [Vantage] Revision Number in a BOM
In v8 (404) Job Entry, MRP, Order Job Wizard (Order Entry) & Job Manager all respect the approved flag and skip over unapproved rev's.PO Entry does no checking as to whether the Rev is approved and simply grabs the 'highest' alphanumeric Rev. I create a customization to warn the buyer if an unapproved Rev is default selected and also adjusted the combo box default Rev pull down selection control to utilize an 'Approved=True' Filter-seclection parameter so it only shows approved Rev's when they reselect.RFQ Entry does not respect approved Rev flags either (perhaps by design as it is not unheard of to request preliminary pricing on a revised part before it is actually approved by engineering).I customized RFQ entry similarly to PO Entry but the 'Approved=True' Rev control parameter didn't work and I simply display whether the reselected rev is approved via a textbox pointing at PartRev.Approved (pulled into the app via a Foreign Key View).Costing concerns me as I have no idea (yet) how the cost workbench will handle revision approvals during rolls.Rob Brown --- On Mon, 4/28/08, Jasper Recto <jrecto@...> wrote:From: Jasper Recto <jrecto@...>Subject: RE: [Vantage] Revision Number in a BOMTo: "'firstname.lastname@example.org'" <email@example.com>Date: Monday, April 28, 2008, 10:27 AMIt's my understanding that Vantage uses the latest approved revision based on the effective date.However, if the latest revision is unapproved, does Vantage actually skip to the next revision? I've had experience to suggest that it does not care if the revision is approved or unapproved, it only looks at the effective date.Also, when you do a cost roll up, Vantage looks at the latest effective date and does not care if it's approved or unapproved.Has anybody else experience this or am I just seeing things. (In Version 6.1)Thanks,Jasper-----Original Message-----From: vantage@yahoogroups .com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups .com]On Behalf Of Robert BrownSent: Monday, April 28, 2008 10:18 AMTo: vantage@yahoogroups .comSubject: RE: [Vantage] Revision Number in a BOMBill,Multi-Rev's can be active and it is up to the planner to decide what Rev to use when generating Job Details. By default, the 'highest' (aphanumeric) Rev will be used & pulled into the Part Rev field of the Job Header. This Rev will also be suggested for use when you 'Get Details" (but you can select an alternate method - or an entirely different approved Rev). If you do select a different rev method, the Job Header Rev will not change so it can get confusing unless you immediately update the header to match the rev you actually are using. (You could create a small customization to facilitate this if it is a big issue for you).MRP uses the 'default rev'.The only time this model will possibly create difficulties for you is if you use non-stock/phantom/Â Use-Part-Â Rev components in your methods that are flagged as View and Pull as Assembly.When creating a job against such a multi-level phantom structure, you have little (if any) control of the rev pulled into the job details for the phantom sub assemblies flagged as View/Pull as assembly.It takes some getting used to. The big 'mind shift' (paradigm change) for useis having effectivity/Â discontinue dating at the top level Rev instead of in the BOM at each component(as many/most other systems support).Rob Brown--- On Mon, 4/28/08, Bill Wu < billw@libertypumps.Â com<mailto: billw%40libertyp umps.com> > wrote:From: Bill Wu < billw@libertypumps.Â com<mailto: billw%40libertyp umps.com> >Subject: RE: [Vantage] Revision Number in a BOMTo: vantage@yahoogroupsÂ .com<mailto: vantage%40yahoog roups.com>Date: Monday, April 28, 2008, 9:28 AMThen the question really becomes "Does Vantage really support more than oneactive revision numbers". If I need to use rev B instead of rev A, I'mexpecting a row in partmtl to say that Model XXXX with Rev 01 has a partYYYY with a rev B. There are four values, so you need at least four fields.Am I correct? That was my question. I'm new to Vantage, so please help.Thanks_____From: vantage@yahoogroups .com [mailto:vantage@Â yahoogroups .com] On Behalf OfBill JacksonSent: Monday, April 28, 2008 9:00 AMTo: vantage@yahoogroups .comSubject: Re: [Vantage] Revision Number in a BOMBill, It looks like, if in the Part maintenance set-up (child part) if 'UseRev' is checked, then the latest, approved revision will be defaultedto-when adding this part to a BOM - I'm guessing likewise for the PartMtltable.--- On Sun, 4/27/08, Bill Wu <billw@libertypumps .<mailto:billw% 40libertypumps. com> com> wrote:From: Bill Wu <billw@libertypumps . <mailto:billw% 40libertypumps. com> com>Subject: [Vantage] Revision Number in a BOMTo: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage% 40yahoogroups. com> .comDate: Sunday, April 27, 2008, 7:05 PMHi, allIn the PartMtl table there is a revision number field for the parent, butthere this no revision number for the child, then how does vantage decidewhich rev number to use for the child? 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