Sales Gross Margin report

As per 8.03.407, here is the help:

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The Sales Gross Margin report prints Cost of Sales (COS) at time of
Shipment or the Job Adjusted Cost at the time of job, and Sales Revenue
information for the invoices created during the selected date range.
Only the amounts from Shipment invoices are calculated and displayed on
this report. For more information on how Shipment invoices are created,
read the AR Invoice Entry topic.

The Invoice Detail costs are pulled from the part transaction table
(parttran) records created at the time of Shipment. These costs for
parts shipped from stock are taken from the partcost table at the time
of shipment. The costs for parts shipped from jobs in the parttran table
are calculated as unit costs from the total labor, burden, material,
subcontract, and material burden costs posted against each job. The
costs for the shipment parttran record is calculated in a manner similar
to how the cost of sales is determined in the WIP report.

Because the cost fields in the InvcDtl table (InvcDtl.SubUnitCost,
InvcDtl.MtlUnitCost, InvcDtl.MtlBurUnitCost, InvcDtl.LbrUnitCost, and
InvcDtl.BurUnitCost) are from the parttran record at the time of
shipping, the Sales Gross Margin report should reconcile to the
appropriate GL accounts after the Capture COS and WIP activity is run.

In cases where a job has partial shipments and costs may be late and
quantities reported are not accurate at the time of the partial
shipments, the JC cost fields may present the information desired when
looking at the report from a Jobcost view and not a Fiscal Period GL
view. For more information, see Use Adjusted Cost.

Use Adjusted Cost

Check this box to populate the cost fields of Labor, Burden, Material,
Subcontract, Material Burden, Total Cost from the Job Closing Unit Cost
fields (for Labor, Burden, so forth) instead of the corresponding
standard invoice cost fields.

The fields that hold these costs are as follows: InvcDtl.JCSubUnitCost,
InvcDtl.JCMtlUnitCost, InvcDtl.JCMtlBurUnitCost, InvcDtl.JCLbrUnitCost,
and InvcDtl.JCBurUnitCost.

The Job Closing Unit Cost fields are updated on the invoice detail
record when a job is closed, and they are a recalculation of the costs
for all of the parts shipped from the job. As a result, this checkbox is
valuable when you want the cost to more accurately present the costs of
the parts on the invoice if the job had many partial shipments during
the life of the job or had late costs applied after invoices were
created.

This will provide costs that are easier to reconcile to the jobs, but
may not reconcile to the GL, because some of the costs picked up by the
GL would be variance costs or costs captured for partial shipments in
different fiscal periods.

However, if this box is checked, the standard invoice cost fields are
still used for invoiced items for jobs that are still open. The standard
fields are also still used for parts that were shipped from inventory.

The lines on the report that use the Job Adjusted cost fields are marked
with an asterisk slash */ just before the applicable cost fields.

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So if you use the USE ADJUSTED COST switch, you are getting your costs
from the Job Close fields for those invoices where you are shipping from
the job. If you don't use the switch, then you are getting the costs at
the time of shipping.



Charlie Smith

Smith Business Services / 2W Technologies LLC

www.vistaconsultant.com <http://www.vistaconsultant.com/> /
www.2WTech.com









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Can anyone explain why the numbers would be different from these two
reports? Shouldn't they be the same?

TIA!



M. Manasa Reddy
ERP / Inventory & Procurement Manager
Welding Company of America
manasa@...
P: 630-806-2000
F: 630-806-2001



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Not sure which numbers you find different but one is job based rpeort and the other (I think) invoice driven. Costs and Margin can vary due to costs being locked in at time of invoicing and not reflecting later job costs. Just a guess.
-Todd C.

________________________________
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Manasa Reddy
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 8:49 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Sales Gross Margin vs Production Detail


Can anyone explain why the numbers would be different from these two
reports? Shouldn't they be the same?

TIA!

M. Manasa Reddy
ERP / Inventory & Procurement Manager
Welding Company of America
manasa@...<mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>
P: 630-806-2000
F: 630-806-2001

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I hear what you are saying, but we never "add costs" later after the job
is closed. And I can understand it if my material costs were always
different.



The issue is we backflush everything and my labor and burden numbers
should always be the same...but for some of these invoices the numbers
are different, which is why we are questioning this report.



Thanks!







M. Manasa Reddy

manasa@...

P: 630-806-2000

F: 630-806-2001

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 8:59 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Sales Gross Margin vs Production Detail



Not sure which numbers you find different but one is job based rpeort
and the other (I think) invoice driven. Costs and Margin can vary due to
costs being locked in at time of invoicing and not reflecting later job
costs. Just a guess.
-Todd C.

________________________________
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of Manasa Reddy
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 8:49 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] Sales Gross Margin vs Production Detail

Can anyone explain why the numbers would be different from these two
reports? Shouldn't they be the same?

TIA!

M. Manasa Reddy
ERP / Inventory & Procurement Manager
Welding Company of America
manasa@... <mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>
<mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>
P: 630-806-2000
F: 630-806-2001

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One other issue to take into consideration, I don't think discount like
2 10 net 30 are taken into consideration on the Prod. Dtl. Level, but
probably is at the Gross Margin.



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Manasa Reddy
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 10:09 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Sales Gross Margin vs Production Detail



I hear what you are saying, but we never "add costs" later after the job
is closed. And I can understand it if my material costs were always
different.

The issue is we backflush everything and my labor and burden numbers
should always be the same...but for some of these invoices the numbers
are different, which is why we are questioning this report.

Thanks!

M. Manasa Reddy

manasa@... <mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>

P: 630-806-2000

F: 630-806-2001

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 8:59 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Sales Gross Margin vs Production Detail

Not sure which numbers you find different but one is job based rpeort
and the other (I think) invoice driven. Costs and Margin can vary due to
costs being locked in at time of invoicing and not reflecting later job
costs. Just a guess.
-Todd C.

________________________________
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of Manasa Reddy
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 8:49 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] Sales Gross Margin vs Production Detail

Can anyone explain why the numbers would be different from these two
reports? Shouldn't they be the same?

TIA!

M. Manasa Reddy
ERP / Inventory & Procurement Manager
Welding Company of America
manasa@... <mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>
<mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>
<mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>
P: 630-806-2000
F: 630-806-2001

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We don't give discounts...I guess my next question would be where are
those cost numbers coming from on the Sales Gross Margin report? We use
average costing and backflush everything.







M. Manasa Reddy

manasa@...

P: 630-806-2000

F: 630-806-2001

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Paul V. Blais
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 9:10 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Sales Gross Margin vs Production Detail



One other issue to take into consideration, I don't think discount like
2 10 net 30 are taken into consideration on the Prod. Dtl. Level, but
probably is at the Gross Margin.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Manasa Reddy
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 10:09 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Sales Gross Margin vs Production Detail

I hear what you are saying, but we never "add costs" later after the job
is closed. And I can understand it if my material costs were always
different.

The issue is we backflush everything and my labor and burden numbers
should always be the same...but for some of these invoices the numbers
are different, which is why we are questioning this report.

Thanks!

M. Manasa Reddy

manasa@... <mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>
<mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>

P: 630-806-2000

F: 630-806-2001

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 8:59 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Sales Gross Margin vs Production Detail

Not sure which numbers you find different but one is job based rpeort
and the other (I think) invoice driven. Costs and Margin can vary due to
costs being locked in at time of invoicing and not reflecting later job
costs. Just a guess.
-Todd C.

________________________________
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of Manasa Reddy
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 8:49 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] Sales Gross Margin vs Production Detail

Can anyone explain why the numbers would be different from these two
reports? Shouldn't they be the same?

TIA!

M. Manasa Reddy
ERP / Inventory & Procurement Manager
Welding Company of America
manasa@... <mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>
<mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>
<mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>
<mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>
P: 630-806-2000
F: 630-806-2001

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Well thanks anyway, group!



I went into help and because we ship from stock the numbers come from
the part master table at the time of shipment. And since we use average
cost, I am assuming that these are average costs for all parts that are
in inventory at the time of shipment.



Thanks again!







M. Manasa Reddy

manasa@...

P: 630-806-2000

F: 630-806-2001

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Manasa Reddy
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 9:21 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Sales Gross Margin vs Production Detail



We don't give discounts...I guess my next question would be where are
those cost numbers coming from on the Sales Gross Margin report? We use
average costing and backflush everything.

M. Manasa Reddy

manasa@... <mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>

P: 630-806-2000

F: 630-806-2001

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Paul V. Blais
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 9:10 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Sales Gross Margin vs Production Detail

One other issue to take into consideration, I don't think discount like
2 10 net 30 are taken into consideration on the Prod. Dtl. Level, but
probably is at the Gross Margin.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Manasa Reddy
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 10:09 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Sales Gross Margin vs Production Detail

I hear what you are saying, but we never "add costs" later after the job
is closed. And I can understand it if my material costs were always
different.

The issue is we backflush everything and my labor and burden numbers
should always be the same...but for some of these invoices the numbers
are different, which is why we are questioning this report.

Thanks!

M. Manasa Reddy

manasa@... <mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>
<mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>
<mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>

P: 630-806-2000

F: 630-806-2001

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 8:59 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Sales Gross Margin vs Production Detail

Not sure which numbers you find different but one is job based rpeort
and the other (I think) invoice driven. Costs and Margin can vary due to
costs being locked in at time of invoicing and not reflecting later job
costs. Just a guess.
-Todd C.

________________________________
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of Manasa Reddy
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 8:49 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] Sales Gross Margin vs Production Detail

Can anyone explain why the numbers would be different from these two
reports? Shouldn't they be the same?

TIA!

M. Manasa Reddy
ERP / Inventory & Procurement Manager
Welding Company of America
manasa@... <mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>
<mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>
<mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>
<mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>
<mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>
P: 630-806-2000
F: 630-806-2001

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That is exactly true. The SGM report is based on snap shots of cost at
the time of shipments. We have rendered the system generated SGM report
all-but-useless. I have built one that more closely resembles the
production detail report, but it is custom tailored to fit our exact
environment and job scanning requirements.



Bruce Butler

IT Manager

Knappe & Koester, Inc.



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Manasa Reddy
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 10:24 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Sales Gross Margin vs Production Detail



Well thanks anyway, group!

I went into help and because we ship from stock the numbers come from
the part master table at the time of shipment. And since we use average
cost, I am assuming that these are average costs for all parts that are
in inventory at the time of shipment.

Thanks again!

M. Manasa Reddy

manasa@... <mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>

P: 630-806-2000

F: 630-806-2001

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Manasa Reddy
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 9:21 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Sales Gross Margin vs Production Detail

We don't give discounts...I guess my next question would be where are
those cost numbers coming from on the Sales Gross Margin report? We use
average costing and backflush everything.

M. Manasa Reddy

manasa@... <mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>
<mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>

P: 630-806-2000

F: 630-806-2001

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Paul V. Blais
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 9:10 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Sales Gross Margin vs Production Detail

One other issue to take into consideration, I don't think discount like
2 10 net 30 are taken into consideration on the Prod. Dtl. Level, but
probably is at the Gross Margin.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Manasa Reddy
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 10:09 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Sales Gross Margin vs Production Detail

I hear what you are saying, but we never "add costs" later after the job
is closed. And I can understand it if my material costs were always
different.

The issue is we backflush everything and my labor and burden numbers
should always be the same...but for some of these invoices the numbers
are different, which is why we are questioning this report.

Thanks!

M. Manasa Reddy

manasa@... <mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>
<mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>
<mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>
<mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>

P: 630-806-2000

F: 630-806-2001

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 8:59 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Sales Gross Margin vs Production Detail

Not sure which numbers you find different but one is job based rpeort
and the other (I think) invoice driven. Costs and Margin can vary due to
costs being locked in at time of invoicing and not reflecting later job
costs. Just a guess.
-Todd C.

________________________________
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
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<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of Manasa Reddy
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 8:49 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] Sales Gross Margin vs Production Detail

Can anyone explain why the numbers would be different from these two
reports? Shouldn't they be the same?

TIA!

M. Manasa Reddy
ERP / Inventory & Procurement Manager
Welding Company of America
manasa@... <mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>
<mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>
<mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>
<mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>
<mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>
<mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>
P: 630-806-2000
F: 630-806-2001

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Production detail picks up any adjustments made on the job and sales gross margin only picks up invoicedtl data. However in version 8.03.400 I'm told invcdtl table now picks up job costs as well with new fields.


----- Original Message ----
From: Manasa Reddy <manasa@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 6:48:42 AM
Subject: [Vantage] Sales Gross Margin vs Production Detail

Can anyone explain why the numbers would be different from these two
reports? Shouldn't they be the same?

TIA!

M. Manasa Reddy
ERP / Inventory & Procurement Manager
Welding Company of America
manasa@weldcoa. com
P: 630-806-2000
F: 630-806-2001

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]






____________________________________________________________________________________
Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.
http://sims.yahoo.com/

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Wow... I came across this issue this morning, did a search, and 2 days
ago this issue was posted. Crazy timing.

I have the same issue. I just realized today that my reports (pulling
costs from the invcdtl table) are incorrect. Here is what I found:

We had a job for 100 pcs. During the operation the operator
"completed" 110 pcs. Then at the last OP, they "completed" 100 pcs.
We then shipped 100 pcs.

The invcdtl fields get filled with a calculation based NOT on the "Job
Completion Qty" nor on the Shipping Qty, but rather on the pcs
completed at an operational level.

Our issue has nothing to do with costs being applied after the job
closes, but rather how many parts each operation is logging as completed.

This is crazy (my technical term for "I can't believe Epicor passes
this as OK").

The invoice should be populated with a unit cost based on the total
cost of the job divided by the qty of parts completed on the job.

If anyone has a better way to report on part costs other than looking
at the invoice, I am all ears.

Thanks in advance,
Ben

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, RSN <rsnsfi@...> wrote:
>
> Production detail picks up any adjustments made on the job and sales
gross margin only picks up invoicedtl data. However in version
8.03.400 I'm told invcdtl table now picks up job costs as well with
new fields.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Manasa Reddy <manasa@...>
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 6:48:42 AM
> Subject: [Vantage] Sales Gross Margin vs Production Detail
>
> Can anyone explain why the numbers would be different from these two
> reports? Shouldn't they be the same?
>
> TIA!
>
> M. Manasa Reddy
> ERP / Inventory & Procurement Manager
> Welding Company of America
> manasa@weldcoa. com
> P: 630-806-2000
> F: 630-806-2001
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
____________________________________________________________________________________
> Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your
story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.
> http://sims.yahoo.com/
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
What is funny (or sad) about your comment is that Epicor only calculates
what is reported on the LAST OP. I can have all sorts of crazy
completed quantities on any other op, but the system calculates only on
the last one. And it has always been like that!!!!!







M. Manasa Reddy

manasa@...

P: 630-806-2000

F: 630-806-2001

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of bbelzer42
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:05 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Sales Gross Margin vs Production Detail



Wow... I came across this issue this morning, did a search, and 2 days
ago this issue was posted. Crazy timing.

I have the same issue. I just realized today that my reports (pulling
costs from the invcdtl table) are incorrect. Here is what I found:

We had a job for 100 pcs. During the operation the operator
"completed" 110 pcs. Then at the last OP, they "completed" 100 pcs.
We then shipped 100 pcs.

The invcdtl fields get filled with a calculation based NOT on the "Job
Completion Qty" nor on the Shipping Qty, but rather on the pcs
completed at an operational level.

Our issue has nothing to do with costs being applied after the job
closes, but rather how many parts each operation is logging as
completed.

This is crazy (my technical term for "I can't believe Epicor passes
this as OK").

The invoice should be populated with a unit cost based on the total
cost of the job divided by the qty of parts completed on the job.

If anyone has a better way to report on part costs other than looking
at the invoice, I am all ears.

Thanks in advance,
Ben

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , RSN
<rsnsfi@...> wrote:
>
> Production detail picks up any adjustments made on the job and sales
gross margin only picks up invoicedtl data. However in version
8.03.400 I'm told invcdtl table now picks up job costs as well with
new fields.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Manasa Reddy <manasa@...>
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 6:48:42 AM
> Subject: [Vantage] Sales Gross Margin vs Production Detail
>
> Can anyone explain why the numbers would be different from these two
> reports? Shouldn't they be the same?
>
> TIA!
>
> M. Manasa Reddy
> ERP / Inventory & Procurement Manager
> Welding Company of America
> manasa@weldcoa. com
> P: 630-806-2000
> F: 630-806-2001
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
__________________________________________________________
> Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your
story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.
> http://sims.yahoo.com/ <http://sims.yahoo.com/>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





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Not in my case... Here is the ex:

Op 10: Saw Qty Compl: 110 Total cost $1000
Op 20: Pack Qty Compl: 100 Total cost $0

Qty. completed on job: 100 (comes from the last op as you last stated)

The invoice however doesn't show $10 as the unit cost, rather it shows
$9.09 as the unit cost.

Weird. I know. Should be $10 because the last op is 100 pcs, and
therefore the job compl. qty is 100.

Ugh...


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Manasa Reddy" <manasa@...> wrote:
>
> What is funny (or sad) about your comment is that Epicor only calculates
> what is reported on the LAST OP. I can have all sorts of crazy
> completed quantities on any other op, but the system calculates only on
> the last one. And it has always been like that!!!!!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> M. Manasa Reddy
>
> manasa@...
>
> P: 630-806-2000
>
> F: 630-806-2001
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of bbelzer42
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:05 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Sales Gross Margin vs Production Detail
>
>
>
> Wow... I came across this issue this morning, did a search, and 2 days
> ago this issue was posted. Crazy timing.
>
> I have the same issue. I just realized today that my reports (pulling
> costs from the invcdtl table) are incorrect. Here is what I found:
>
> We had a job for 100 pcs. During the operation the operator
> "completed" 110 pcs. Then at the last OP, they "completed" 100 pcs.
> We then shipped 100 pcs.
>
> The invcdtl fields get filled with a calculation based NOT on the "Job
> Completion Qty" nor on the Shipping Qty, but rather on the pcs
> completed at an operational level.
>
> Our issue has nothing to do with costs being applied after the job
> closes, but rather how many parts each operation is logging as
> completed.
>
> This is crazy (my technical term for "I can't believe Epicor passes
> this as OK").
>
> The invoice should be populated with a unit cost based on the total
> cost of the job divided by the qty of parts completed on the job.
>
> If anyone has a better way to report on part costs other than looking
> at the invoice, I am all ears.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Ben
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , RSN
> <rsnsfi@> wrote:
> >
> > Production detail picks up any adjustments made on the job and sales
> gross margin only picks up invoicedtl data. However in version
> 8.03.400 I'm told invcdtl table now picks up job costs as well with
> new fields.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Manasa Reddy <manasa@>
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 6:48:42 AM
> > Subject: [Vantage] Sales Gross Margin vs Production Detail
> >
> > Can anyone explain why the numbers would be different from these two
> > reports? Shouldn't they be the same?
> >
> > TIA!
> >
> > M. Manasa Reddy
> > ERP / Inventory & Procurement Manager
> > Welding Company of America
> > manasa@weldcoa. com
> > P: 630-806-2000
> > F: 630-806-2001
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> __________________________________________________________
> > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your
> story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.
> > http://sims.yahoo.com/ <http://sims.yahoo.com/>
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
110 completed for a cost of $1000 yields a per each price of $9.090909

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "bbelzer42" <bbelzer@...> wrote:
>
>
> Not in my case... Here is the ex:
>
> Op 10: Saw Qty Compl: 110 Total cost $1000
> Op 20: Pack Qty Compl: 100 Total cost $0
>
> Qty. completed on job: 100 (comes from the last op as you last
stated)
>
> The invoice however doesn't show $10 as the unit cost, rather it
shows
> $9.09 as the unit cost.
>
> Weird. I know. Should be $10 because the last op is 100 pcs, and
> therefore the job compl. qty is 100.
>
> Ugh...
>
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Manasa Reddy" <manasa@> wrote:
> >
> > What is funny (or sad) about your comment is that Epicor only
calculates
> > what is reported on the LAST OP. I can have all sorts of crazy
> > completed quantities on any other op, but the system calculates
only on
> > the last one. And it has always been like that!!!!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > M. Manasa Reddy
> >
> > manasa@
> >
> > P: 630-806-2000
> >
> > F: 630-806-2001
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> > Of bbelzer42
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:05 PM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Vantage] Re: Sales Gross Margin vs Production Detail
> >
> >
> >
> > Wow... I came across this issue this morning, did a search, and 2
days
> > ago this issue was posted. Crazy timing.
> >
> > I have the same issue. I just realized today that my reports
(pulling
> > costs from the invcdtl table) are incorrect. Here is what I found:
> >
> > We had a job for 100 pcs. During the operation the operator
> > "completed" 110 pcs. Then at the last OP, they "completed" 100
pcs.
> > We then shipped 100 pcs.
> >
> > The invcdtl fields get filled with a calculation based NOT on
the "Job
> > Completion Qty" nor on the Shipping Qty, but rather on the pcs
> > completed at an operational level.
> >
> > Our issue has nothing to do with costs being applied after the job
> > closes, but rather how many parts each operation is logging as
> > completed.
> >
> > This is crazy (my technical term for "I can't believe Epicor
passes
> > this as OK").
> >
> > The invoice should be populated with a unit cost based on the
total
> > cost of the job divided by the qty of parts completed on the job.
> >
> > If anyone has a better way to report on part costs other than
looking
> > at the invoice, I am all ears.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Ben
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%
40yahoogroups.com> , RSN
> > <rsnsfi@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Production detail picks up any adjustments made on the job and
sales
> > gross margin only picks up invoicedtl data. However in version
> > 8.03.400 I'm told invcdtl table now picks up job costs as well
with
> > new fields.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: Manasa Reddy <manasa@>
> > > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 6:48:42 AM
> > > Subject: [Vantage] Sales Gross Margin vs Production Detail
> > >
> > > Can anyone explain why the numbers would be different from
these two
> > > reports? Shouldn't they be the same?
> > >
> > > TIA!
> > >
> > > M. Manasa Reddy
> > > ERP / Inventory & Procurement Manager
> > > Welding Company of America
> > > manasa@weldcoa. com
> > > P: 630-806-2000
> > > F: 630-806-2001
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > __________________________________________________________
> > > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your
> > story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.
> > > http://sims.yahoo.com/ <http://sims.yahoo.com/>
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
Do you ship from stock?







M. Manasa Reddy

manasa@...

P: 630-806-2000

F: 630-806-2001

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of bbelzer42
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:57 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Sales Gross Margin vs Production Detail




Not in my case... Here is the ex:

Op 10: Saw Qty Compl: 110 Total cost $1000
Op 20: Pack Qty Compl: 100 Total cost $0

Qty. completed on job: 100 (comes from the last op as you last stated)

The invoice however doesn't show $10 as the unit cost, rather it shows
$9.09 as the unit cost.

Weird. I know. Should be $10 because the last op is 100 pcs, and
therefore the job compl. qty is 100.

Ugh...

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"Manasa Reddy" <manasa@...> wrote:
>
> What is funny (or sad) about your comment is that Epicor only
calculates
> what is reported on the LAST OP. I can have all sorts of crazy
> completed quantities on any other op, but the system calculates only
on
> the last one. And it has always been like that!!!!!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> M. Manasa Reddy
>
> manasa@...
>
> P: 630-806-2000
>
> F: 630-806-2001
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
> Of bbelzer42
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:05 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Sales Gross Margin vs Production Detail
>
>
>
> Wow... I came across this issue this morning, did a search, and 2 days
> ago this issue was posted. Crazy timing.
>
> I have the same issue. I just realized today that my reports (pulling
> costs from the invcdtl table) are incorrect. Here is what I found:
>
> We had a job for 100 pcs. During the operation the operator
> "completed" 110 pcs. Then at the last OP, they "completed" 100 pcs.
> We then shipped 100 pcs.
>
> The invcdtl fields get filled with a calculation based NOT on the "Job
> Completion Qty" nor on the Shipping Qty, but rather on the pcs
> completed at an operational level.
>
> Our issue has nothing to do with costs being applied after the job
> closes, but rather how many parts each operation is logging as
> completed.
>
> This is crazy (my technical term for "I can't believe Epicor passes
> this as OK").
>
> The invoice should be populated with a unit cost based on the total
> cost of the job divided by the qty of parts completed on the job.
>
> If anyone has a better way to report on part costs other than looking
> at the invoice, I am all ears.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Ben
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , RSN
> <rsnsfi@> wrote:
> >
> > Production detail picks up any adjustments made on the job and sales
> gross margin only picks up invoicedtl data. However in version
> 8.03.400 I'm told invcdtl table now picks up job costs as well with
> new fields.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Manasa Reddy <manasa@>
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 6:48:42 AM
> > Subject: [Vantage] Sales Gross Margin vs Production Detail
> >
> > Can anyone explain why the numbers would be different from these two
> > reports? Shouldn't they be the same?
> >
> > TIA!
> >
> > M. Manasa Reddy
> > ERP / Inventory & Procurement Manager
> > Welding Company of America
> > manasa@weldcoa. com
> > P: 630-806-2000
> > F: 630-806-2001
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> __________________________________________________________
> > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your
> story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.
> > http://sims.yahoo.com/ <http://sims.yahoo.com/>
<http://sims.yahoo.com/ <http://sims.yahoo.com/> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Obviously.

But we sold 100. The other 10 pcs were made on accident.

Should cost all 110 parts against the 100 sold.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "bw2868bond" <bwalker@...> wrote:
>
> 110 completed for a cost of $1000 yields a per each price of $9.090909
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "bbelzer42" <bbelzer@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Not in my case... Here is the ex:
> >
> > Op 10: Saw Qty Compl: 110 Total cost $1000
> > Op 20: Pack Qty Compl: 100 Total cost $0
> >
> > Qty. completed on job: 100 (comes from the last op as you last
> stated)
> >
> > The invoice however doesn't show $10 as the unit cost, rather it
> shows
> > $9.09 as the unit cost.
> >
> > Weird. I know. Should be $10 because the last op is 100 pcs, and
> > therefore the job compl. qty is 100.
> >
> > Ugh...
> >
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Manasa Reddy" <manasa@> wrote:
> > >
> > > What is funny (or sad) about your comment is that Epicor only
> calculates
> > > what is reported on the LAST OP. I can have all sorts of crazy
> > > completed quantities on any other op, but the system calculates
> only on
> > > the last one. And it has always been like that!!!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > M. Manasa Reddy
> > >
> > > manasa@
> > >
> > > P: 630-806-2000
> > >
> > > F: 630-806-2001
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf
> > > Of bbelzer42
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:05 PM
> > > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [Vantage] Re: Sales Gross Margin vs Production Detail
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Wow... I came across this issue this morning, did a search, and 2
> days
> > > ago this issue was posted. Crazy timing.
> > >
> > > I have the same issue. I just realized today that my reports
> (pulling
> > > costs from the invcdtl table) are incorrect. Here is what I found:
> > >
> > > We had a job for 100 pcs. During the operation the operator
> > > "completed" 110 pcs. Then at the last OP, they "completed" 100
> pcs.
> > > We then shipped 100 pcs.
> > >
> > > The invcdtl fields get filled with a calculation based NOT on
> the "Job
> > > Completion Qty" nor on the Shipping Qty, but rather on the pcs
> > > completed at an operational level.
> > >
> > > Our issue has nothing to do with costs being applied after the job
> > > closes, but rather how many parts each operation is logging as
> > > completed.
> > >
> > > This is crazy (my technical term for "I can't believe Epicor
> passes
> > > this as OK").
> > >
> > > The invoice should be populated with a unit cost based on the
> total
> > > cost of the job divided by the qty of parts completed on the job.
> > >
> > > If anyone has a better way to report on part costs other than
> looking
> > > at the invoice, I am all ears.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > Ben
> > >
> > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%
> 40yahoogroups.com> , RSN
> > > <rsnsfi@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Production detail picks up any adjustments made on the job and
> sales
> > > gross margin only picks up invoicedtl data. However in version
> > > 8.03.400 I'm told invcdtl table now picks up job costs as well
> with
> > > new fields.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > > From: Manasa Reddy <manasa@>
> > > > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 6:48:42 AM
> > > > Subject: [Vantage] Sales Gross Margin vs Production Detail
> > > >
> > > > Can anyone explain why the numbers would be different from
> these two
> > > > reports? Shouldn't they be the same?
> > > >
> > > > TIA!
> > > >
> > > > M. Manasa Reddy
> > > > ERP / Inventory & Procurement Manager
> > > > Welding Company of America
> > > > manasa@weldcoa. com
> > > > P: 630-806-2000
> > > > F: 630-806-2001
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > __________________________________________________________
> > > > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your
> > > story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.
> > > > http://sims.yahoo.com/ <http://sims.yahoo.com/>
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>
No... shipped straight from the job.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Manasa Reddy" <manasa@...> wrote:
>
> Do you ship from stock?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> M. Manasa Reddy
>
> manasa@...
>
> P: 630-806-2000
>
> F: 630-806-2001
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of bbelzer42
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:57 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Sales Gross Margin vs Production Detail
>
>
>
>
> Not in my case... Here is the ex:
>
> Op 10: Saw Qty Compl: 110 Total cost $1000
> Op 20: Pack Qty Compl: 100 Total cost $0
>
> Qty. completed on job: 100 (comes from the last op as you last stated)
>
> The invoice however doesn't show $10 as the unit cost, rather it shows
> $9.09 as the unit cost.
>
> Weird. I know. Should be $10 because the last op is 100 pcs, and
> therefore the job compl. qty is 100.
>
> Ugh...
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> "Manasa Reddy" <manasa@> wrote:
> >
> > What is funny (or sad) about your comment is that Epicor only
> calculates
> > what is reported on the LAST OP. I can have all sorts of crazy
> > completed quantities on any other op, but the system calculates only
> on
> > the last one. And it has always been like that!!!!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > M. Manasa Reddy
> >
> > manasa@
> >
> > P: 630-806-2000
> >
> > F: 630-806-2001
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf
> > Of bbelzer42
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:05 PM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Vantage] Re: Sales Gross Margin vs Production Detail
> >
> >
> >
> > Wow... I came across this issue this morning, did a search, and 2 days
> > ago this issue was posted. Crazy timing.
> >
> > I have the same issue. I just realized today that my reports (pulling
> > costs from the invcdtl table) are incorrect. Here is what I found:
> >
> > We had a job for 100 pcs. During the operation the operator
> > "completed" 110 pcs. Then at the last OP, they "completed" 100 pcs.
> > We then shipped 100 pcs.
> >
> > The invcdtl fields get filled with a calculation based NOT on the "Job
> > Completion Qty" nor on the Shipping Qty, but rather on the pcs
> > completed at an operational level.
> >
> > Our issue has nothing to do with costs being applied after the job
> > closes, but rather how many parts each operation is logging as
> > completed.
> >
> > This is crazy (my technical term for "I can't believe Epicor passes
> > this as OK").
> >
> > The invoice should be populated with a unit cost based on the total
> > cost of the job divided by the qty of parts completed on the job.
> >
> > If anyone has a better way to report on part costs other than looking
> > at the invoice, I am all ears.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Ben
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , RSN
> > <rsnsfi@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Production detail picks up any adjustments made on the job and sales
> > gross margin only picks up invoicedtl data. However in version
> > 8.03.400 I'm told invcdtl table now picks up job costs as well with
> > new fields.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: Manasa Reddy <manasa@>
> > > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 6:48:42 AM
> > > Subject: [Vantage] Sales Gross Margin vs Production Detail
> > >
> > > Can anyone explain why the numbers would be different from these two
> > > reports? Shouldn't they be the same?
> > >
> > > TIA!
> > >
> > > M. Manasa Reddy
> > > ERP / Inventory & Procurement Manager
> > > Welding Company of America
> > > manasa@weldcoa. com
> > > P: 630-806-2000
> > > F: 630-806-2001
> > >
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Manasa,

We just encountered this problem with the Sales Gross Margin report
and I discovered all the traffic around this topic.
We are running 8.03.405A and noticed the discrepancy between the two
reports.

Have you come across any more information regarding getting the SGM
report to display the same numbers as the Production Detail since October?

Is this really by design or just an unresolved error?

Thanks,
DaveH
Xybix



--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Manasa Reddy" <manasa@...> wrote:
>
> Can anyone explain why the numbers would be different from these two
> reports? Shouldn't they be the same?
>
> TIA!
>
>
>
> M. Manasa Reddy
> ERP / Inventory & Procurement Manager
> Welding Company of America
> manasa@...
> P: 630-806-2000
> F: 630-806-2001
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
In all honesty I don't remember at all, mostly because we really do not
look and scrutinize the SGM report anymore, at the moment.

We have been more involved with making sure numbers are hitting the
correct GL accounts. And when they don't, what we did for it to happen.

For us, the SGM report will probably looked at more like next year!
Sorry I could not help, but I will say that I prefer the production
detail report more than the SGM!



M. Manasa Reddy
manasa@...
P: 630-806-2000
F: 630-806-2001


________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of ofcwiz
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 12:30 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Sales Gross Margin vs Production Detail



Manasa,

We just encountered this problem with the Sales Gross Margin report
and I discovered all the traffic around this topic.
We are running 8.03.405A and noticed the discrepancy between the two
reports.

Have you come across any more information regarding getting the SGM
report to display the same numbers as the Production Detail since
October?

Is this really by design or just an unresolved error?

Thanks,
DaveH
Xybix

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"Manasa Reddy" <manasa@...> wrote:
>
> Can anyone explain why the numbers would be different from these two
> reports? Shouldn't they be the same?
>
> TIA!
>
>
>
> M. Manasa Reddy
> ERP / Inventory & Procurement Manager
> Welding Company of America
> manasa@...
> P: 630-806-2000
> F: 630-806-2001
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>






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I looked at this report way back in version 5.2 and it did not agree
with the PDR so I haven't used it since. I think the Sales Gross Margin
report is a snapshot of the cost at the time of the invoice. If you add
costs to a job after the invoice is created the Sales Gross Margin
report data does not get updated. Someone correct me if I am wrong.



Linda Lowney




--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"Manasa Reddy" <manasa@...> wrote:
>
> Can anyone explain why the numbers would be different from these two
> reports? Shouldn't they be the same?
>
> TIA!
>
>
>
> M. Manasa Reddy
> ERP / Inventory & Procurement Manager
> Welding Company of America
> manasa@...
> P: 630-806-2000
> F: 630-806-2001





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Your statement is accurate. The Sales Gross Margin is a snapshot of the
costs at time of invoice. It does not get updated if any costs are
added after the invoice was created.



Ben



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