You didn't miss anything, except that the shipper should be for the blanks,
not the pins. The PO to the subcontract is for the finished part--the pin,
the raw material is the blank. The shipper should be for the blank. You
are doing the process correctly, but Vantage should be printing the shipper
for the blank. Problems is with Vantage.
Cameron A. Janish
Misha1 cameron@...
Toll Free: 866-464-7421
Office: 708-445-7509
Cell: 630-712-9520
Office Fax: 630-893-1307
Direct Fax: 443-638-0489
-----Original Message-----
From: Mitchell Kirby [mailto:m.kirby@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:47 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Subject: RE: HELP - Releasing Material to Sub
Contractor
OK, I am missing something here. Here is what we do. The "Pin" is made
from a "Blank". Both items are stocked.
We cut a job for the Pin. The Blank is in the BOM as the material from
which the Pin is made. The first operation is to pull the blanks from
stock, the second is the sub-op, the remaining operations are done here
after the sub-op is complete. The first op is the Rel Op which relieves
the
inventory since we backflush.
The PO is for the Pin and linked to the job. We put a note on the PO to
remind the vendor that the pin is made from the Blank we are shipping to
him. It helps him keep the different Blanks straight on his end. The
system pulls the Blanks from stock with the Shipper. Receive the Pin back
when he is finished.
What did I miss? Call me if you want.
Mitchell Kirby
m.kirby@...
740-335-5353
Ver 5.1
-----Original Message-----
From: Sherer, Rhonda [mailto:rhonda@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:40 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] Subject: RE: HELP - Releasing Material to Sub
Contractor
To Dina, and others, too.
I inadvertently deleted your response to this method, but I also noticed
that no one responded to you. I wish they would, I have the same problem
you expressed.
When you issue a PO to a subcontract vendor, the system pulls the finished
part number.
So does the packing slip. We had similar problems when welding 2 units
together which creates a third unit. It seems like the only option is to
make comments on the pack slip about what is actually being shipped.
This,
at least keeps all the records under one transaction and is easily viewed
in the job tracker for historical needs.
There's another way that is a lot less clean, historically and requires
some
manual closing of operations, which defeats using a computerized system.
Ultimately, none of the options will automatically reflect the material
that
is on
a given job, on the printed shipping paperwork.
Like I said, I was hoping to see some answers from the other users about
that.
I'll keep watching. Let us know if you discover something.
Thanks for bringing up the subject. By the way, we did ask support about
this and
they didn't have any other suggestions. (a year and a half ago)
Rhonda Sherer
Reeder & Kline Machine Co.
317-846-6591 x216
Message: 22
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 18:08:15 -0600
From: "Cameron A. Janish" <cameron@...>
Subject: RE: HELP - Releasing Material to Sub Contractor
You need to create a subcontractor operation in your BOM/Router. The BOM
has the finished part as its part 24332C, it has EML124331C as its
material
which is sent to the subcontract as a subcontractor operation. When you
send it to the subcontractor you will be removing the EML124331C material
from inventory, when the subcontractor returns the finished product to
you,
you will be receiving 24332C because that is the part that you will be
using
for whatever your finished material is. This is called a multilevel bill
of
material. the 24332C is a component that is made up of the EML 124331C
and
whatever the subcontractor adds to it and does to it. When you issue
material to the job it should allow you to create a shipping document for
the subcontractor and then you receive the completed material back to the
24332C part in the job for your finished product. Let me know if you need
any more information on this.
Cameron A. Janish
Misha1 cameron@...
Toll Free: 866-464-7421
Office: 708-445-7509
Cell: 630-712-9520
Office Fax: 630-893-1307
Direct Fax: 443-638-0489
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not the pins. The PO to the subcontract is for the finished part--the pin,
the raw material is the blank. The shipper should be for the blank. You
are doing the process correctly, but Vantage should be printing the shipper
for the blank. Problems is with Vantage.
Cameron A. Janish
Misha1 cameron@...
Toll Free: 866-464-7421
Office: 708-445-7509
Cell: 630-712-9520
Office Fax: 630-893-1307
Direct Fax: 443-638-0489
-----Original Message-----
From: Mitchell Kirby [mailto:m.kirby@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:47 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Subject: RE: HELP - Releasing Material to Sub
Contractor
OK, I am missing something here. Here is what we do. The "Pin" is made
from a "Blank". Both items are stocked.
We cut a job for the Pin. The Blank is in the BOM as the material from
which the Pin is made. The first operation is to pull the blanks from
stock, the second is the sub-op, the remaining operations are done here
after the sub-op is complete. The first op is the Rel Op which relieves
the
inventory since we backflush.
The PO is for the Pin and linked to the job. We put a note on the PO to
remind the vendor that the pin is made from the Blank we are shipping to
him. It helps him keep the different Blanks straight on his end. The
system pulls the Blanks from stock with the Shipper. Receive the Pin back
when he is finished.
What did I miss? Call me if you want.
Mitchell Kirby
m.kirby@...
740-335-5353
Ver 5.1
-----Original Message-----
From: Sherer, Rhonda [mailto:rhonda@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:40 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] Subject: RE: HELP - Releasing Material to Sub
Contractor
To Dina, and others, too.
I inadvertently deleted your response to this method, but I also noticed
that no one responded to you. I wish they would, I have the same problem
you expressed.
When you issue a PO to a subcontract vendor, the system pulls the finished
part number.
So does the packing slip. We had similar problems when welding 2 units
together which creates a third unit. It seems like the only option is to
make comments on the pack slip about what is actually being shipped.
This,
at least keeps all the records under one transaction and is easily viewed
in the job tracker for historical needs.
There's another way that is a lot less clean, historically and requires
some
manual closing of operations, which defeats using a computerized system.
Ultimately, none of the options will automatically reflect the material
that
is on
a given job, on the printed shipping paperwork.
Like I said, I was hoping to see some answers from the other users about
that.
I'll keep watching. Let us know if you discover something.
Thanks for bringing up the subject. By the way, we did ask support about
this and
they didn't have any other suggestions. (a year and a half ago)
Rhonda Sherer
Reeder & Kline Machine Co.
317-846-6591 x216
Message: 22
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 18:08:15 -0600
From: "Cameron A. Janish" <cameron@...>
Subject: RE: HELP - Releasing Material to Sub Contractor
You need to create a subcontractor operation in your BOM/Router. The BOM
has the finished part as its part 24332C, it has EML124331C as its
material
which is sent to the subcontract as a subcontractor operation. When you
send it to the subcontractor you will be removing the EML124331C material
from inventory, when the subcontractor returns the finished product to
you,
you will be receiving 24332C because that is the part that you will be
using
for whatever your finished material is. This is called a multilevel bill
of
material. the 24332C is a component that is made up of the EML 124331C
and
whatever the subcontractor adds to it and does to it. When you issue
material to the job it should allow you to create a shipping document for
the subcontractor and then you receive the completed material back to the
24332C part in the job for your finished product. Let me know if you need
any more information on this.
Cameron A. Janish
Misha1 cameron@...
Toll Free: 866-464-7421
Office: 708-445-7509
Cell: 630-712-9520
Office Fax: 630-893-1307
Direct Fax: 443-638-0489
-
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already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
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(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
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