Updating OrderDtl records When change in OrderHed with BPM

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On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 7:21 PM, <effgroups@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Does the tt tables still exist? And is their rowmod still flagged?
>
> I tried that a while back and if I remember correctly It didn't work. I
> will try again.
>
>
> We are on 90407A
> Ephraim Feldman
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jose Gomez <jose@...>
> Sender: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 09:34:37
> To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
> Reply-To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] Updating OrderDtl records When change in OrderHed
> with BPM
>
> No you should be able to for each the ttorderhed table
> On Jun 6, 2012 10:38 PM, <effgroups@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > But I still need to update the BPMdata to have the ordernum.
> >
> >
> > Ephraim Feldman
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jose Gomez <jose@...>
> > Sender: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 22:32:18
> > To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
> > Reply-To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vantage] Updating OrderDtl records When change in OrderHed
> > with BPM
> >
> > No bit you do your value changed check in pre if true enable post proc
> > then
> > you don't check again.
> > On Jun 6, 2012 8:19 PM, <effgroups@...> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > The reason is that I need then to setup 2 directives. One pre to
> enable
> > > the post and to set the order number in the BPMdata so I can do the
> post
> > > process.
> > > Or is there a way in the postprcess to check if a value was changed?
> And
> > > how to get the order number?
> > >
> > >
> > > Ephraim Feldman
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jose Gomez <jose@...>
> > > Sender: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:05:11
> > > To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Reply-To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Vantage] Updating OrderDtl records When change in
> OrderHed
> > > with BPM
> > >
> > > Why does post processing bother you? It should do exactly what you
> want
> > > On Jun 6, 2012 11:49 AM, "Ephraim Feldman" <effgroups@...>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > **
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi All
> > > >
> > > > I searched the message archive and didnt find a satisfying answer to
> > > this.
> > > >
> > > > I think its a very simple need to be able to update UD fields in the
> > Dtl
> > > > when the Hed changes but when you do that with a Preprocessing BPM
> you
> > > get
> > > > a error record has been updated.
> > > >
> > > > There has to be a simple way to do this without having to do a
> > > > post-processing
> > > >
> > > > Im sure some of you have this issue
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Ephraim
> > > >
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> > > >
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Hi All


I searched the message archive and didnt find a satisfying answer to this.

I think its a very simple need to be able to update UD fields in the Dtl
when the Hed changes but when you do that with a Preprocessing BPM you get
a error record has been updated.

There has to be a simple way to do this without having to do a
post-processing

Im sure some of you have this issue


Thanks

Ephraim


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Why does post processing bother you? It should do exactly what you want
On Jun 6, 2012 11:49 AM, "Ephraim Feldman" <effgroups@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hi All
>
> I searched the message archive and didnt find a satisfying answer to this.
>
> I think its a very simple need to be able to update UD fields in the Dtl
> when the Hed changes but when you do that with a Preprocessing BPM you get
> a error record has been updated.
>
> There has to be a simple way to do this without having to do a
> post-processing
>
> Im sure some of you have this issue
>
> Thanks
>
> Ephraim
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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The reason is that I need then to setup 2 directives. One pre to enable the post and to set the order number in the BPMdata so I can do the post process.
Or is there a way in the postprcess to check if a value was changed? And how to get the order number?


Ephraim Feldman

-----Original Message-----
From: Jose Gomez <jose@...>
Sender: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:05:11
To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Reply-To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Updating OrderDtl records When change in OrderHed with BPM

Why does post processing bother you? It should do exactly what you want
On Jun 6, 2012 11:49 AM, "Ephraim Feldman" <effgroups@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hi All
>
> I searched the message archive and didnt find a satisfying answer to this.
>
> I think its a very simple need to be able to update UD fields in the Dtl
> when the Hed changes but when you do that with a Preprocessing BPM you get
> a error record has been updated.
>
> There has to be a simple way to do this without having to do a
> post-processing
>
> Im sure some of you have this issue
>
> Thanks
>
> Ephraim
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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No bit you do your value changed check in pre if true enable post proc then
you don't check again.
On Jun 6, 2012 8:19 PM, <effgroups@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> The reason is that I need then to setup 2 directives. One pre to enable
> the post and to set the order number in the BPMdata so I can do the post
> process.
> Or is there a way in the postprcess to check if a value was changed? And
> how to get the order number?
>
>
> Ephraim Feldman
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jose Gomez <jose@...>
> Sender: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:05:11
> To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
> Reply-To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] Updating OrderDtl records When change in OrderHed
> with BPM
>
> Why does post processing bother you? It should do exactly what you want
> On Jun 6, 2012 11:49 AM, "Ephraim Feldman" <effgroups@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Hi All
> >
> > I searched the message archive and didnt find a satisfying answer to
> this.
> >
> > I think its a very simple need to be able to update UD fields in the Dtl
> > when the Hed changes but when you do that with a Preprocessing BPM you
> get
> > a error record has been updated.
> >
> > There has to be a simple way to do this without having to do a
> > post-processing
> >
> > Im sure some of you have this issue
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Ephraim
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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But I still need to update the BPMdata to have the ordernum.


Ephraim Feldman

-----Original Message-----
From: Jose Gomez <jose@...>
Sender: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 22:32:18
To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Reply-To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Updating OrderDtl records When change in OrderHed with BPM

No bit you do your value changed check in pre if true enable post proc then
you don't check again.
On Jun 6, 2012 8:19 PM, <effgroups@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> The reason is that I need then to setup 2 directives. One pre to enable
> the post and to set the order number in the BPMdata so I can do the post
> process.
> Or is there a way in the postprcess to check if a value was changed? And
> how to get the order number?
>
>
> Ephraim Feldman
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jose Gomez <jose@...>
> Sender: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:05:11
> To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
> Reply-To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] Updating OrderDtl records When change in OrderHed
> with BPM
>
> Why does post processing bother you? It should do exactly what you want
> On Jun 6, 2012 11:49 AM, "Ephraim Feldman" <effgroups@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Hi All
> >
> > I searched the message archive and didnt find a satisfying answer to
> this.
> >
> > I think its a very simple need to be able to update UD fields in the Dtl
> > when the Hed changes but when you do that with a Preprocessing BPM you
> get
> > a error record has been updated.
> >
> > There has to be a simple way to do this without having to do a
> > post-processing
> >
> > Im sure some of you have this issue
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Ephraim
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>


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No you should be able to for each the ttorderhed table
On Jun 6, 2012 10:38 PM, <effgroups@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> But I still need to update the BPMdata to have the ordernum.
>
>
> Ephraim Feldman
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jose Gomez <jose@...>
> Sender: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 22:32:18
> To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
> Reply-To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] Updating OrderDtl records When change in OrderHed
> with BPM
>
> No bit you do your value changed check in pre if true enable post proc
> then
> you don't check again.
> On Jun 6, 2012 8:19 PM, <effgroups@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > The reason is that I need then to setup 2 directives. One pre to enable
> > the post and to set the order number in the BPMdata so I can do the post
> > process.
> > Or is there a way in the postprcess to check if a value was changed? And
> > how to get the order number?
> >
> >
> > Ephraim Feldman
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jose Gomez <jose@...>
> > Sender: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:05:11
> > To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
> > Reply-To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vantage] Updating OrderDtl records When change in OrderHed
> > with BPM
> >
> > Why does post processing bother you? It should do exactly what you want
> > On Jun 6, 2012 11:49 AM, "Ephraim Feldman" <effgroups@...> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi All
> > >
> > > I searched the message archive and didnt find a satisfying answer to
> > this.
> > >
> > > I think its a very simple need to be able to update UD fields in the
> Dtl
> > > when the Hed changes but when you do that with a Preprocessing BPM you
> > get
> > > a error record has been updated.
> > >
> > > There has to be a simple way to do this without having to do a
> > > post-processing
> > >
> > > Im sure some of you have this issue
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Ephraim
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
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> have
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> and
> > Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
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> >
> >
> >
>
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> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
> Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
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You can do it all in a post, the data is there..

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-----Original message-----
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Sent: Thu, Jun 7, 2012 02:38:37 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Updating OrderDtl records When change in OrderHed with BPM



But I still need to update the BPMdata to have the ordernum.


Ephraim Feldman

-----Original Message-----
From: Jose Gomez <jose@...<mailto:jose%40josecgomez.com>>
Sender: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 22:32:18
To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>>
Reply-To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Updating OrderDtl records When change in OrderHed with BPM

No bit you do your value changed check in pre if true enable post proc then
you don't check again.
On Jun 6, 2012 8:19 PM, <effgroups@...<mailto:effgroups%40gmail.com>> wrote:

> **
>
>
> The reason is that I need then to setup 2 directives. One pre to enable
> the post and to set the order number in the BPMdata so I can do the post
> process.
> Or is there a way in the postprcess to check if a value was changed? And
> how to get the order number?
>
>
> Ephraim Feldman
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jose Gomez <jose@...<mailto:jose%40josecgomez.com>>
> Sender: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:05:11
> To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Reply-To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] Updating OrderDtl records When change in OrderHed
> with BPM
>
> Why does post processing bother you? It should do exactly what you want
> On Jun 6, 2012 11:49 AM, "Ephraim Feldman" <effgroups@...<mailto:effgroups%40gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Hi All
> >
> > I searched the message archive and didnt find a satisfying answer to
> this.
> >
> > I think its a very simple need to be able to update UD fields in the Dtl
> > when the Hed changes but when you do that with a Preprocessing BPM you
> get
> > a error record has been updated.
> >
> > There has to be a simple way to do this without having to do a
> > post-processing
> >
> > Im sure some of you have this issue
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Ephraim
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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> Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
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> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
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Does the tt tables still exist? And is their rowmod still flagged?

I tried that a while back and if I remember correctly It didn't work. I will try again.


We are on 90407A
Ephraim Feldman

-----Original Message-----
From: Jose Gomez <jose@...>
Sender: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 09:34:37
To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Reply-To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Updating OrderDtl records When change in OrderHed with BPM

No you should be able to for each the ttorderhed table
On Jun 6, 2012 10:38 PM, <effgroups@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> But I still need to update the BPMdata to have the ordernum.
>
>
> Ephraim Feldman
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jose Gomez <jose@...>
> Sender: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 22:32:18
> To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
> Reply-To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] Updating OrderDtl records When change in OrderHed
> with BPM
>
> No bit you do your value changed check in pre if true enable post proc
> then
> you don't check again.
> On Jun 6, 2012 8:19 PM, <effgroups@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > The reason is that I need then to setup 2 directives. One pre to enable
> > the post and to set the order number in the BPMdata so I can do the post
> > process.
> > Or is there a way in the postprcess to check if a value was changed? And
> > how to get the order number?
> >
> >
> > Ephraim Feldman
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jose Gomez <jose@...>
> > Sender: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:05:11
> > To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
> > Reply-To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vantage] Updating OrderDtl records When change in OrderHed
> > with BPM
> >
> > Why does post processing bother you? It should do exactly what you want
> > On Jun 6, 2012 11:49 AM, "Ephraim Feldman" <effgroups@...> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi All
> > >
> > > I searched the message archive and didnt find a satisfying answer to
> > this.
> > >
> > > I think its a very simple need to be able to update UD fields in the
> Dtl
> > > when the Hed changes but when you do that with a Preprocessing BPM you
> > get
> > > a error record has been updated.
> > >
> > > There has to be a simple way to do this without having to do a
> > > post-processing
> > >
> > > Im sure some of you have this issue
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Ephraim
> > >
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