Todd
I was speaking with Tech Support last week about the change to
XP and he told me it was ONLY two shipping reports that wouldn't run on
Win2k. The others are supposed to run. You think you have a problem I'm
up to 135 Win2k computers. Below is a cut and paste from his email to
me.
"Also the Crystal reports that are verified as a problem with Win2k and
.808 are Packing Slip and Subcontract Packing Slip. "
Cliff
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 6:57 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: V8 Client Requirements
Requiring XP may set our 8.0 upgrade plans back a year. We are mostly
licensed for XP but up until last year scrubbed and reloaded with Win2K
for compatibility with other software (since made OK for XP). Cost is
not as much an issue as time to upgrade the OS on all those PCs. I was
wondering about the stated issues with upgrading Win2K to XP. I have on
my desk a blue box from MS for Win-XP that states "Upgrade". I had
planned to use this disk to bring the Win2K PCs up to their licensed XP.
What are the problems with this?
[Soapbox warning] On the flip side the ever increasing hardware
requirements for the clients may make those Win2K loaded PCs
unacceptable for 8.0 so I might have to replace them with preloaded XP
boxes anyway which, budget wise, will have to be done over an extended
period of time. I don't think there is a good understanding by Epicor
of the impact of wholesale hardware and software changes on small/medium
manufacturing companies. The earliest client spec we had on "Sonoma"
was 1Ghz/1GB with Win2K so we started replacing clients gradually
thinking we were being future ready. Now these will have to be
replaced. We can't do all 60 PCs at once (40 remaining for current
requirements) to hit a certain spec and the spec keeps moving. The
latest batch of PCs (one a month is as fast as I am allowed) are
3Ghz/2GB w/XP. Move over Sisyphus you've got company.
Thanks,
-Todd C.
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf
Of jameswi2000
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 11:26 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: V8 Client Requirements
Unfortunately, the 808 Patch doc did *not* refer to requiring XP and
only the Crystal doc did, at which point it is too late to undo if you
didn't read the Crystal doc beforehand. Also, it did not break all
reports, so depending on what was tested, you may or may not see the
problem in testing.
Interestingly, Crystal still supports W2K (and Pentium IIs) on their Web
site, so it does appear to be an Epicor decision:
http://www.businessobjects.com/products/reporting/crystalreports/sysre
q.asp
It would have been nice if Epicor had made several formal announcements
that they were no longer going to support W2K, Microsoft's most popular
and stable OS, so companies currently using their product could plan XP
into their budget. Not just decide to dump W2K overnight.
I did hear there is an unofficial patch for this issue, but it is only
good until the next Vantage patch is released. Maybe if enough people
pressure them, they will change their position and continue to support
W2K until Microsoft Vista comes out.
Cheers!
P.S. I heard you can upgrade from W2K to XP, but it just takes one
driver issue on one PC to potentially blow an entire afternoon. But
then OS upgrades never have problems (LOL) so that won't happen. Oh,
and it takes a whole lot of money for the upgrades too!
I was speaking with Tech Support last week about the change to
XP and he told me it was ONLY two shipping reports that wouldn't run on
Win2k. The others are supposed to run. You think you have a problem I'm
up to 135 Win2k computers. Below is a cut and paste from his email to
me.
"Also the Crystal reports that are verified as a problem with Win2k and
.808 are Packing Slip and Subcontract Packing Slip. "
Cliff
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 6:57 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: V8 Client Requirements
Requiring XP may set our 8.0 upgrade plans back a year. We are mostly
licensed for XP but up until last year scrubbed and reloaded with Win2K
for compatibility with other software (since made OK for XP). Cost is
not as much an issue as time to upgrade the OS on all those PCs. I was
wondering about the stated issues with upgrading Win2K to XP. I have on
my desk a blue box from MS for Win-XP that states "Upgrade". I had
planned to use this disk to bring the Win2K PCs up to their licensed XP.
What are the problems with this?
[Soapbox warning] On the flip side the ever increasing hardware
requirements for the clients may make those Win2K loaded PCs
unacceptable for 8.0 so I might have to replace them with preloaded XP
boxes anyway which, budget wise, will have to be done over an extended
period of time. I don't think there is a good understanding by Epicor
of the impact of wholesale hardware and software changes on small/medium
manufacturing companies. The earliest client spec we had on "Sonoma"
was 1Ghz/1GB with Win2K so we started replacing clients gradually
thinking we were being future ready. Now these will have to be
replaced. We can't do all 60 PCs at once (40 remaining for current
requirements) to hit a certain spec and the spec keeps moving. The
latest batch of PCs (one a month is as fast as I am allowed) are
3Ghz/2GB w/XP. Move over Sisyphus you've got company.
Thanks,
-Todd C.
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf
Of jameswi2000
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 11:26 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: V8 Client Requirements
Unfortunately, the 808 Patch doc did *not* refer to requiring XP and
only the Crystal doc did, at which point it is too late to undo if you
didn't read the Crystal doc beforehand. Also, it did not break all
reports, so depending on what was tested, you may or may not see the
problem in testing.
Interestingly, Crystal still supports W2K (and Pentium IIs) on their Web
site, so it does appear to be an Epicor decision:
http://www.businessobjects.com/products/reporting/crystalreports/sysre
q.asp
It would have been nice if Epicor had made several formal announcements
that they were no longer going to support W2K, Microsoft's most popular
and stable OS, so companies currently using their product could plan XP
into their budget. Not just decide to dump W2K overnight.
I did hear there is an unofficial patch for this issue, but it is only
good until the next Vantage patch is released. Maybe if enough people
pressure them, they will change their position and continue to support
W2K until Microsoft Vista comes out.
Cheers!
P.S. I heard you can upgrade from W2K to XP, but it just takes one
driver issue on one PC to potentially blow an entire afternoon. But
then OS upgrades never have problems (LOL) so that won't happen. Oh,
and it takes a whole lot of money for the upgrades too!
--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Frank Zeigafuse" <frankz@...> wrote:
>
> The epicor version of crystal or standard out of box crystal?
>
> Innovative Office Products, Inc.
> Frank Zeigafuse
> General Manager
> 610-559-6369
> fzeigafuse@...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jason Hassel
> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 6:36 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] V8 Client Requirements
>
>
> I noticed. I talked to them last week and the Crystal Runtime
files apparently don't run (or at least they won't support them) on
Windows 2K. They changed with the 808 patch and the updated Crystal
Runtime files for printing.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Cliff Drumeller
> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 5:32 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] V8 Client Requirements
>
>
>
> How many people noticed that the Vantage 8 client requirements
changed last week. They used to say Windows 2000 Pro or XP. Now they
just state XP Pro Sp2. I have 125 computers on Win2K. As I recall you
can't upgrade you have to rebuild. Maybe I should just tell the owner I
want to buy ALL NEW COMPUTERS with XP so I can upgrade to this SLOW
great new version of Vantage. I'm really looking forward to demoing
V8 to the Brass..... I think it's time to look around...
>
> Cliff Drumeller
> IT Manager
> Mass Precision Sheetmetal, Inc.
> 408 954 0200 ex 348
> 408 314 7420 cell
>
>
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