V8 Client Requirements

Todd
I was speaking with Tech Support last week about the change to
XP and he told me it was ONLY two shipping reports that wouldn't run on
Win2k. The others are supposed to run. You think you have a problem I'm
up to 135 Win2k computers. Below is a cut and paste from his email to
me.

"Also the Crystal reports that are verified as a problem with Win2k and
.808 are Packing Slip and Subcontract Packing Slip. "

Cliff
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 6:57 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: V8 Client Requirements

Requiring XP may set our 8.0 upgrade plans back a year. We are mostly
licensed for XP but up until last year scrubbed and reloaded with Win2K
for compatibility with other software (since made OK for XP). Cost is
not as much an issue as time to upgrade the OS on all those PCs. I was
wondering about the stated issues with upgrading Win2K to XP. I have on
my desk a blue box from MS for Win-XP that states "Upgrade". I had
planned to use this disk to bring the Win2K PCs up to their licensed XP.
What are the problems with this?

[Soapbox warning] On the flip side the ever increasing hardware
requirements for the clients may make those Win2K loaded PCs
unacceptable for 8.0 so I might have to replace them with preloaded XP
boxes anyway which, budget wise, will have to be done over an extended
period of time. I don't think there is a good understanding by Epicor
of the impact of wholesale hardware and software changes on small/medium
manufacturing companies. The earliest client spec we had on "Sonoma"
was 1Ghz/1GB with Win2K so we started replacing clients gradually
thinking we were being future ready. Now these will have to be
replaced. We can't do all 60 PCs at once (40 remaining for current
requirements) to hit a certain spec and the spec keeps moving. The
latest batch of PCs (one a month is as fast as I am allowed) are
3Ghz/2GB w/XP. Move over Sisyphus you've got company.

Thanks,
-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf
Of jameswi2000
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 11:26 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: V8 Client Requirements


Unfortunately, the 808 Patch doc did *not* refer to requiring XP and
only the Crystal doc did, at which point it is too late to undo if you
didn't read the Crystal doc beforehand. Also, it did not break all
reports, so depending on what was tested, you may or may not see the
problem in testing.

Interestingly, Crystal still supports W2K (and Pentium IIs) on their Web
site, so it does appear to be an Epicor decision:

http://www.businessobjects.com/products/reporting/crystalreports/sysre
q.asp

It would have been nice if Epicor had made several formal announcements
that they were no longer going to support W2K, Microsoft's most popular
and stable OS, so companies currently using their product could plan XP
into their budget. Not just decide to dump W2K overnight.

I did hear there is an unofficial patch for this issue, but it is only
good until the next Vantage patch is released. Maybe if enough people
pressure them, they will change their position and continue to support
W2K until Microsoft Vista comes out.

Cheers!

P.S. I heard you can upgrade from W2K to XP, but it just takes one
driver issue on one PC to potentially blow an entire afternoon. But
then OS upgrades never have problems (LOL) so that won't happen. Oh,
and it takes a whole lot of money for the upgrades too!


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>
> The epicor version of crystal or standard out of box crystal?
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jason Hassel
> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 6:36 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] V8 Client Requirements
>
>
> I noticed. I talked to them last week and the Crystal Runtime
files apparently don't run (or at least they won't support them) on
Windows 2K. They changed with the 808 patch and the updated Crystal
Runtime files for printing.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
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> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Cliff Drumeller
> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 5:32 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] V8 Client Requirements
>
>
>
> How many people noticed that the Vantage 8 client requirements
changed last week. They used to say Windows 2000 Pro or XP. Now they
just state XP Pro Sp2. I have 125 computers on Win2K. As I recall you
can't upgrade you have to rebuild. Maybe I should just tell the owner I
want to buy ALL NEW COMPUTERS with XP so I can upgrade to this SLOW
great new version of Vantage. I'm really looking forward to demoing
V8 to the Brass..... I think it's time to look around...
>
> Cliff Drumeller
> IT Manager
> Mass Precision Sheetmetal, Inc.
> 408 954 0200 ex 348
> 408 314 7420 cell
>
>






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How many people noticed that the Vantage 8 client requirements changed
last week. They used to say Windows 2000 Pro or XP. Now they just state
XP Pro Sp2. I have 125 computers on Win2K. As I recall you can't upgrade
you have to rebuild. Maybe I should just tell the owner I want to buy
ALL NEW COMPUTERS with XP so I can upgrade to this SLOW great new
version of Vantage. I'm really looking forward to demoing V8 to the
Brass..... I think it's time to look around...

Cliff Drumeller
IT Manager
Mass Precision Sheetmetal, Inc.
408 954 0200 ex 348
408 314 7420 cell



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
I noticed. I talked to them last week and the Crystal Runtime files
apparently don't run (or at least they won't support them) on Windows
2K. They changed with the 808 patch and the updated Crystal Runtime
files for printing.



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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cliff Drumeller
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 5:32 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] V8 Client Requirements



How many people noticed that the Vantage 8 client requirements changed
last week. They used to say Windows 2000 Pro or XP. Now they just state
XP Pro Sp2. I have 125 computers on Win2K. As I recall you can't upgrade
you have to rebuild. Maybe I should just tell the owner I want to buy
ALL NEW COMPUTERS with XP so I can upgrade to this SLOW great new
version of Vantage. I'm really looking forward to demoing V8 to the
Brass..... I think it's time to look around...

Cliff Drumeller
IT Manager
Mass Precision Sheetmetal, Inc.
408 954 0200 ex 348
408 314 7420 cell



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The epicor version of crystal or standard out of box crystal?

Innovative Office Products, Inc.
Frank Zeigafuse
General Manager
610-559-6369
fzeigafuse@...


-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jason Hassel
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 6:36 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] V8 Client Requirements


I noticed. I talked to them last week and the Crystal Runtime files apparently don't run (or at least they won't support them) on Windows 2K. They changed with the 808 patch and the updated Crystal Runtime files for printing.



________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Cliff Drumeller
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 5:32 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] V8 Client Requirements



How many people noticed that the Vantage 8 client requirements changed last week. They used to say Windows 2000 Pro or XP. Now they just state XP Pro Sp2. I have 125 computers on Win2K. As I recall you can't upgrade you have to rebuild. Maybe I should just tell the owner I want to buy ALL NEW COMPUTERS with XP so I can upgrade to this SLOW great new version of Vantage. I'm really looking forward to demoing V8 to the Brass..... I think it's time to look around...

Cliff Drumeller
IT Manager
Mass Precision Sheetmetal, Inc.
408 954 0200 ex 348
408 314 7420 cell



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So much for thin client or "smart client" I sounds really dumb to me !!

Innovative Office Products, Inc.
Frank Zeigafuse
General Manager
610-559-6369
fzeigafuse@...


-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cliff Drumeller
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 6:32 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] V8 Client Requirements


How many people noticed that the Vantage 8 client requirements changed
last week. They used to say Windows 2000 Pro or XP. Now they just state
XP Pro Sp2. I have 125 computers on Win2K. As I recall you can't upgrade
you have to rebuild. Maybe I should just tell the owner I want to buy
ALL NEW COMPUTERS with XP so I can upgrade to this SLOW great new
version of Vantage. I'm really looking forward to demoing V8 to the
Brass..... I think it's time to look around...

Cliff Drumeller
IT Manager
Mass Precision Sheetmetal, Inc.
408 954 0200 ex 348
408 314 7420 cell



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> How many people noticed that the Vantage 8 client requirements changed
last week.

Oh great. Our clients are fine, but according to Epicor, the MES hardware
requirements are the same as Vantage. So what are we supposed to do with our
MES stations on Win2K that we have already rolled out?

Anyone looked at this in more detail? Could MES stations get by because they
don't use Crystal?

Brian
Actually, if you are running in a thin-client environment, this
isn't that big of a deal.

We run our client's on four Citrix servers, then all our Vantage
users will run thin-clients into the Citrix farm. We're wanting to
upgrade to 8.00.808, so it is causing an upgrade of four servers
(plus a domain controller that needed it as a prereq to our
application servers). One reason to look at running Vantage in a
thin client environment.

Kevin Simon

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Frank Zeigafuse" <frankz@...> wrote:
>
> So much for thin client or "smart client" I sounds really dumb to
me !!
>
> Innovative Office Products, Inc.
> Frank Zeigafuse
> General Manager
> 610-559-6369
> fzeigafuse@...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Cliff Drumeller
> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 6:32 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] V8 Client Requirements
>
>
> How many people noticed that the Vantage 8 client requirements
changed
> last week. They used to say Windows 2000 Pro or XP. Now they just
state
> XP Pro Sp2. I have 125 computers on Win2K. As I recall you can't
upgrade
> you have to rebuild. Maybe I should just tell the owner I want to
buy
> ALL NEW COMPUTERS with XP so I can upgrade to this SLOW great new
> version of Vantage. I'm really looking forward to demoing V8 to the
> Brass..... I think it's time to look around...
>
> Cliff Drumeller
> IT Manager
> Mass Precision Sheetmetal, Inc.
> 408 954 0200 ex 348
> 408 314 7420 cell
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
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Builder
> and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
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>
How many simultaneous user do you have? How big is your database?

Innovative Office Products, Inc.
Frank Zeigafuse
General Manager
610-559-6369
fzeigafuse@...


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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of alfe_ksimon
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 2:42 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: V8 Client Requirements


Actually, if you are running in a thin-client environment, this
isn't that big of a deal.

We run our client's on four Citrix servers, then all our Vantage
users will run thin-clients into the Citrix farm. We're wanting to
upgrade to 8.00.808, so it is causing an upgrade of four servers
(plus a domain controller that needed it as a prereq to our
application servers). One reason to look at running Vantage in a
thin client environment.

Kevin Simon

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Frank Zeigafuse" <frankz@...> wrote:
>
> So much for thin client or "smart client" I sounds really dumb to
me !!
>
> Innovative Office Products, Inc.
> Frank Zeigafuse
> General Manager
> 610-559-6369
> fzeigafuse@...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Cliff Drumeller
> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 6:32 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] V8 Client Requirements
>
>
> How many people noticed that the Vantage 8 client requirements
changed
> last week. They used to say Windows 2000 Pro or XP. Now they just
state
> XP Pro Sp2. I have 125 computers on Win2K. As I recall you can't
upgrade
> you have to rebuild. Maybe I should just tell the owner I want to
buy
> ALL NEW COMPUTERS with XP so I can upgrade to this SLOW great new
> version of Vantage. I'm really looking forward to demoing V8 to the
> Brass..... I think it's time to look around...
>
> Cliff Drumeller
> IT Manager
> Mass Precision Sheetmetal, Inc.
> 408 954 0200 ex 348
> 408 314 7420 cell
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
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Builder
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Unfortunately, the 808 Patch doc did *not* refer to requiring XP and
only the Crystal doc did, at which point it is too late to undo if
you didn't read the Crystal doc beforehand. Also, it did not break
all reports, so depending on what was tested, you may or may not see
the problem in testing.

Interestingly, Crystal still supports W2K (and Pentium IIs) on their
Web site, so it does appear to be an Epicor decision:

http://www.businessobjects.com/products/reporting/crystalreports/sysre
q.asp

It would have been nice if Epicor had made several formal
announcements that they were no longer going to support W2K,
Microsoft's most popular and stable OS, so companies currently using
their product could plan XP into their budget. Not just decide to
dump W2K overnight.

I did hear there is an unofficial patch for this issue, but it is
only good until the next Vantage patch is released. Maybe if enough
people pressure them, they will change their position and continue to
support W2K until Microsoft Vista comes out.

Cheers!

P.S. I heard you can upgrade from W2K to XP, but it just takes one
driver issue on one PC to potentially blow an entire afternoon. But
then OS upgrades never have problems (LOL) so that won't happen. Oh,
and it takes a whole lot of money for the upgrades too!


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Frank Zeigafuse" <frankz@...> wrote:
>
> The epicor version of crystal or standard out of box crystal?
>
> Innovative Office Products, Inc.
> Frank Zeigafuse
> General Manager
> 610-559-6369
> fzeigafuse@...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jason Hassel
> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 6:36 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] V8 Client Requirements
>
>
> I noticed. I talked to them last week and the Crystal Runtime
files apparently don't run (or at least they won't support them) on
Windows 2K. They changed with the 808 patch and the updated Crystal
Runtime files for printing.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Cliff Drumeller
> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 5:32 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] V8 Client Requirements
>
>
>
> How many people noticed that the Vantage 8 client requirements
changed last week. They used to say Windows 2000 Pro or XP. Now they
just state XP Pro Sp2. I have 125 computers on Win2K. As I recall you
can't upgrade you have to rebuild. Maybe I should just tell the owner
I want to buy ALL NEW COMPUTERS with XP so I can upgrade to this SLOW
great new version of Vantage. I'm really looking forward to demoing
V8 to the Brass..... I think it's time to look around...
>
> Cliff Drumeller
> IT Manager
> Mass Precision Sheetmetal, Inc.
> 408 954 0200 ex 348
> 408 314 7420 cell
>
>
Requiring XP may set our 8.0 upgrade plans back a year. We are mostly licensed for XP but up until last year scrubbed and reloaded with Win2K for compatibility with other software (since made OK for XP). Cost is not as much an issue as time to upgrade the OS on all those PCs. I was wondering about the stated issues with upgrading Win2K to XP. I have on my desk a blue box from MS for Win-XP that states "Upgrade". I had planned to use this disk to bring the Win2K PCs up to their licensed XP. What are the problems with this?

[Soapbox warning] On the flip side the ever increasing hardware requirements for the clients may make those Win2K loaded PCs unacceptable for 8.0 so I might have to replace them with preloaded XP boxes anyway which, budget wise, will have to be done over an extended period of time. I don't think there is a good understanding by Epicor of the impact of wholesale hardware and software changes on small/medium manufacturing companies. The earliest client spec we had on "Sonoma" was 1Ghz/1GB with Win2K so we started replacing clients gradually thinking we were being future ready. Now these will have to be replaced. We can't do all 60 PCs at once (40 remaining for current requirements) to hit a certain spec and the spec keeps moving. The latest batch of PCs (one a month is as fast as I am allowed) are 3Ghz/2GB w/XP. Move over Sisyphus you've got company.

Thanks,
-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of jameswi2000
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 11:26 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: V8 Client Requirements


Unfortunately, the 808 Patch doc did *not* refer to requiring XP and
only the Crystal doc did, at which point it is too late to undo if
you didn't read the Crystal doc beforehand. Also, it did not break
all reports, so depending on what was tested, you may or may not see
the problem in testing.

Interestingly, Crystal still supports W2K (and Pentium IIs) on their
Web site, so it does appear to be an Epicor decision:

http://www.businessobjects.com/products/reporting/crystalreports/sysre
q.asp

It would have been nice if Epicor had made several formal
announcements that they were no longer going to support W2K,
Microsoft's most popular and stable OS, so companies currently using
their product could plan XP into their budget. Not just decide to
dump W2K overnight.

I did hear there is an unofficial patch for this issue, but it is
only good until the next Vantage patch is released. Maybe if enough
people pressure them, they will change their position and continue to
support W2K until Microsoft Vista comes out.

Cheers!

P.S. I heard you can upgrade from W2K to XP, but it just takes one
driver issue on one PC to potentially blow an entire afternoon. But
then OS upgrades never have problems (LOL) so that won't happen. Oh,
and it takes a whole lot of money for the upgrades too!


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Frank Zeigafuse" <frankz@...> wrote:
>
> The epicor version of crystal or standard out of box crystal?
>
> Innovative Office Products, Inc.
> Frank Zeigafuse
> General Manager
> 610-559-6369
> fzeigafuse@...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jason Hassel
> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 6:36 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] V8 Client Requirements
>
>
> I noticed. I talked to them last week and the Crystal Runtime
files apparently don't run (or at least they won't support them) on
Windows 2K. They changed with the 808 patch and the updated Crystal
Runtime files for printing.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Cliff Drumeller
> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 5:32 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] V8 Client Requirements
>
>
>
> How many people noticed that the Vantage 8 client requirements
changed last week. They used to say Windows 2000 Pro or XP. Now they
just state XP Pro Sp2. I have 125 computers on Win2K. As I recall you
can't upgrade you have to rebuild. Maybe I should just tell the owner
I want to buy ALL NEW COMPUTERS with XP so I can upgrade to this SLOW
great new version of Vantage. I'm really looking forward to demoing
V8 to the Brass..... I think it's time to look around...
>
> Cliff Drumeller
> IT Manager
> Mass Precision Sheetmetal, Inc.
> 408 954 0200 ex 348
> 408 314 7420 cell
>
>






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