Vantage 8 speed issue question

Michael.

Surely if the 1850 and 2850 xeons are not from the same batch, I could swap both
processors over from the 2850 into the 1850 and put the existing single Xeon into the
2850. The reason I was thinking of swapping around was more for testing reasons. Dell do
sell a 'second processor' kit but it's pretty expensive and I'd need to see if the speed would
increase at all befor purchasing it.

Do you reckon it will help the speed of Vantage?

Cheers for the responses so far.

Jonny

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Barry" <mbarry@...> wrote:
>
> Jonny,
>
> Your plan will, most probably, not work as intended. In order to guarantee
> that Xeons work in multiprocessor mode they not only must match clock speed
> but also they must match die lot. So, if your processors from your 2850
> were from the same die lot as your 1850, it should work, if not, probably
> not. The fact that you purchased them at the same time is no guarantee but
> is at least in your favor.
>
> Michael
>
> Michael Barry
> Aspacia Systems Inc
> 866.566.9600
> 312.803.0730 fax
> <http://www.aspacia.com/> http://www.aspacia.com/
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> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> jonnyfatman666
> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 12:27 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Vantage 8 speed issue question
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> From when we first got our Vantage server installed I was under the
> impression it was a
> dual processor Dell Poweredge 1850 3.2GHz with 2GB RAM. It appeared to have
> 2
> performance meters in the CPU page of task manager and appeared as a
> Multiprocessor
> PC in device manager.
> However, on further inspection (ie watching CPU performance monitors, if one
> goes up in
> usage, the other goes down!) I've realised its just the HyperThreading of
> the single Xeon
> processor.
>
> Now the server is not under spec as we only asked for a single processor to
> begin with,
> but the Poweredge 2850 we purchased at the same time had an upgrade to real
> dual xeon
> 3.2GHZ CPUs.
>
> If I were to buy the Dell heatsink for the 1850 and take one of the Xeon
> 3.2's out of the
> 2850,
> firstly, would this work without having to reinstall Windows?
>
> And secondly, will I see a speed boost from V8? We've got approx 15 clients
> at P4 2.4GHz
> and upwards with 768-1GB RAM and 100Mbps network with gigabit server
> backbone.
>
> Apologies for length,
>
> Jonny
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Hi All,

From when we first got our Vantage server installed I was under the impression it was a
dual processor Dell Poweredge 1850 3.2GHz with 2GB RAM. It appeared to have 2
performance meters in the CPU page of task manager and appeared as a Multiprocessor
PC in device manager.
However, on further inspection (ie watching CPU performance monitors, if one goes up in
usage, the other goes down!) I've realised its just the HyperThreading of the single Xeon
processor.

Now the server is not under spec as we only asked for a single processor to begin with,
but the Poweredge 2850 we purchased at the same time had an upgrade to real dual xeon
3.2GHZ CPUs.

If I were to buy the Dell heatsink for the 1850 and take one of the Xeon 3.2's out of the
2850,
firstly, would this work without having to reinstall Windows?

And secondly, will I see a speed boost from V8? We've got approx 15 clients at P4 2.4GHz
and upwards with 768-1GB RAM and 100Mbps network with gigabit server backbone.

Apologies for length,

Jonny
Jonny,

Your plan will, most probably, not work as intended. In order to guarantee
that Xeons work in multiprocessor mode they not only must match clock speed
but also they must match die lot. So, if your processors from your 2850
were from the same die lot as your 1850, it should work, if not, probably
not. The fact that you purchased them at the same time is no guarantee but
is at least in your favor.

Michael

Michael Barry
Aspacia Systems Inc
866.566.9600
312.803.0730 fax
<http://www.aspacia.com/> http://www.aspacia.com/

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
jonnyfatman666
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 12:27 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Vantage 8 speed issue question



Hi All,

From when we first got our Vantage server installed I was under the
impression it was a
dual processor Dell Poweredge 1850 3.2GHz with 2GB RAM. It appeared to have
2
performance meters in the CPU page of task manager and appeared as a
Multiprocessor
PC in device manager.
However, on further inspection (ie watching CPU performance monitors, if one
goes up in
usage, the other goes down!) I've realised its just the HyperThreading of
the single Xeon
processor.

Now the server is not under spec as we only asked for a single processor to
begin with,
but the Poweredge 2850 we purchased at the same time had an upgrade to real
dual xeon
3.2GHZ CPUs.

If I were to buy the Dell heatsink for the 1850 and take one of the Xeon
3.2's out of the
2850,
firstly, would this work without having to reinstall Windows?

And secondly, will I see a speed boost from V8? We've got approx 15 clients
at P4 2.4GHz
and upwards with 768-1GB RAM and 100Mbps network with gigabit server
backbone.

Apologies for length,

Jonny






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Jonny
If they do match, you just use the add hardware to add a cpu. No
rebuild required.
Cliff

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Michael Barry
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 6:45 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Vantage 8 speed issue question



Jonny,

Your plan will, most probably, not work as intended. In order to
guarantee
that Xeons work in multiprocessor mode they not only must match clock
speed
but also they must match die lot. So, if your processors from your 2850
were from the same die lot as your 1850, it should work, if not,
probably
not. The fact that you purchased them at the same time is no guarantee
but
is at least in your favor.

Michael

Michael Barry
Aspacia Systems Inc
866.566.9600
312.803.0730 fax
<http://www.aspacia.com/ <http://www.aspacia.com/> >
http://www.aspacia.com/ <http://www.aspacia.com/>

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and
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Behalf Of
jonnyfatman666
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 12:27 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] Vantage 8 speed issue question

Hi All,

From when we first got our Vantage server installed I was under the
impression it was a
dual processor Dell Poweredge 1850 3.2GHz with 2GB RAM. It appeared to
have
2
performance meters in the CPU page of task manager and appeared as a
Multiprocessor
PC in device manager.
However, on further inspection (ie watching CPU performance monitors, if
one
goes up in
usage, the other goes down!) I've realised its just the HyperThreading
of
the single Xeon
processor.

Now the server is not under spec as we only asked for a single processor
to
begin with,
but the Poweredge 2850 we purchased at the same time had an upgrade to
real
dual xeon
3.2GHZ CPUs.

If I were to buy the Dell heatsink for the 1850 and take one of the Xeon
3.2's out of the
2850,
firstly, would this work without having to reinstall Windows?

And secondly, will I see a speed boost from V8? We've got approx 15
clients
at P4 2.4GHz
and upwards with 768-1GB RAM and 100Mbps network with gigabit server
backbone.

Apologies for length,

Jonny

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