The same thing is happening to us. We use the suggestions to print
certain PO's for a job and for certain stocked materials. But we do not
use suggestions across the board. (Our PA reviews the material status
report to determine what we need and when he wants to issue the purchase
order, he goes to suggestions to issue the order. That way he gets the
materials directly from the job and doesn't have to type in the info,
which also reduces the possibility of error.) So now most of the time
the Time Phase Materials are confusing and costs us a lot of time to
figure the status of many parts. We too cannot unmark the "Generate"
flag. The suggestions wrongfully suggest that certain part needs are
covered and the requirements are removed, when if fact they are not, and
they are never met until a purchase order is placed and the parts are
I understand the desire/need to show that suggestions might be pending
and that a PO may be placed soon, but the number should not be
considered as reducing requirements as if the parts were already ordered
and/or received. We would accept this if the purchase order was in fact
placed. Why not show the suggestions on time phased as they are, only
suggestions, and not affect the quantity until a purchase order has been
placed and receipt is pending on a certain specific date. This would
give the visibility that there are suggestions out there and if someone
placed an order for them the requirement would be satisfied.
Something needs to be done to help us. It appears that a change was
made assuming that every company is using all parts of the Vantage
program to their fullest extent. Some of us are using a little more of
the program as time goes on and one day we may be using all of it. Also
in this case, it appears that the assumption is that all suggestions
are or will be placed as purchase orders as soon as they are generated.
We had another problem with purchasing on 5.0 recently. Apparently the
purchase order now picks up the minimum order quantity for a part from
the part master. We have minimums in the part master which are either
the number we want to buy as a minimum and/or the vendor minimum buy
quantity. Our PA entered a purchase order for sheet stock for a job
yesterday and the order quantity was 5 instead of the 2 he wanted to
buy. This didn't happen to us in 3.0. The buyer went in and corrected
the amount and sent off the purchase order. However, the purchase order
again shows the 5 pieces. Why can't the buyer change the PO amount and
have that amount remain in the order?
From: John Sage [SMTP:jsage@...
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 1:22 PM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] 5.0 - Time Phase Inquiry change
Unfortunately we do use purchasing suggestions, so we cannot
unmark the "Generate" flag. I would suggest making the
inclusion of suggestion information a configuration choice.
Because suggestion numbers are now mixed in with actual supply
and demand numbers, the running balances are not accurate for
our needs. Some shops may prefer the new method, but the
logic change has resulted in decreased visibility for us and
has made it difficult to validate real numbers.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Ligas
> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 9:17 AM
> To: 'firstname.lastname@example.org'
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] 5.0 - Time Phase Inquiry change
> The change was intentional in version 5.00. It was done
> 1. There were many requests for increased visibility of the
> suggestions to validate them against the timephase report
> 2. To provide consolidated supply and demand information for
> individual parts.
> If you are not using po suggestions but someone has generated
> them at one point and now they are showing up you should
> unmark the parts Generate PO Sugg flag. Job suggestions will
> also appear on the timephase for the above reasons.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Sage [mailto:jsage@...]
> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 3:51 PM
> To: email@example.com
> Subject: [Vantage] 5.0 - Time Phase Inquiry change
> Has anyone else noticed that Time Phase inquiries, in
> addition to showing balances reflecting receipts and
> requirements, now adjust the balances based upon suggested PO
> changes? This is giving our purchasing staff grey hair. Is
> this a design change or a bug, or am I out to lunch <g!>.
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