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We have the cheapo Chip PC TC in the shop. They've been out there for 5 years and are still alive and kicking...even in this Texas heat.

Hopefully I haven't jinxed myself.
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> I'll 3rd the HP recommendation. I use mine to connect to full VMs on a
> XenServer host, so far with no real problems. The only issue we had was
> easily resolved by my non-technical assistant calling HP support which
> was very helpful.
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> I will say that USB pass-through to the VMs is tricky if not impossible
> for some devices. (I can get external HDDs and thumb drives to work but
> no luck so far with printers.) However I'll also admit I haven't had a
> lot of time to spend on it.
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> In my opinion, a pretty impressive box for a $200 from NewEgg. (
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16859105659&cm_re=HP
> _thin_client-_-59-105-659-_-Product)
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> HP also makes a bracket for mounting the thing to the back of a monitor
> which is nice, even at the $20 price tag.
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> I don't work for NewEgg or HP either... :)
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> Sean B
> Director of IT
> HMU, LLC
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> The firmware is straight-forward and easy to set up.
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> > I wanted to put out a single setup to compare performance to our POS
> > units. Its seems to be conceptually speaking a lot cheaper to add and
> > replace and maintain than the full blown pioneers that we have out
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> > currently (assuming we have a server dedicated to take on the load,
> > which we do). Running 8.03.409a, any specs I should look for? Thanks!
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I wanted to put out a single setup to compare performance to our POS
units. Its seems to be conceptually speaking a lot cheaper to add and
replace and maintain than the full blown pioneers that we have out there
currently (assuming we have a server dedicated to take on the load,
which we do). Running 8.03.409a, any specs I should look for? Thanks!



Rob Bucek

Production Control Manager

PH: (715) 284-5376 ext 311

Mobile: (715)896-0590

FAX: (715)284-4084

<http://www.dsmfg.com/>

(Click the logo to view our site) <http://www.dsmfg.com/>







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We've used HP pretty consistently and I've had no issues with them.

While I wouldn't call it an exhaustive survey, we've tried a few other
brands here and there. The HP's have always been better by a wide margin. No
stability issues, more reliable hardware, more polished firmware, etc.

We've only put a couple out on the floor, but they've never given us issues.
We usually just use the cheapest ones that are available unless we need
something special like dual-monitor support.

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Rob Bucek <rbucek@...> wrote:

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> I wanted to put out a single setup to compare performance to our POS
> units. Its seems to be conceptually speaking a lot cheaper to add and
> replace and maintain than the full blown pioneers that we have out there
> currently (assuming we have a server dedicated to take on the load,
> which we do). Running 8.03.409a, any specs I should look for? Thanks!
>
> Rob Bucek
>
> Production Control Manager
>
> PH: (715) 284-5376 ext 311
>
> Mobile: (715)896-0590
>
> FAX: (715)284-4084
>
> <http://www.dsmfg.com/>
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> (Click the logo to view our site) <http://www.dsmfg.com/>
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I don't know much about the PoS system in vantage (unless POS was meant to mean something else), but I can at least tell you about thin clients in regards to MES stations... MS Terminal Services and HP Thin Clients all the way. Deployed them in both Distribution companies and Mfg companies (Mfg using Vantage) environments. They're cheap, solid-state, easy to manage. You can easily lock them down for security purposes and setup to auto login to terminal services. They handle harsher environments than PCs, since they don't have fans, they won't suck in dust and coolant residue. And if they do ever fail, which is rare, you just buy a new one for $300 and hook it up. Since they don't run regular windows software, you don't have much to configure. You only have to manage the terminal server. I've primarily used HP T55xx series clients...and I don't work for HP or Microsoft so there's my professional opinion...

-James

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Subject: [Vantage] any recomendations for thin client hardware to run MES on the shop floor?



I wanted to put out a single setup to compare performance to our POS
units. Its seems to be conceptually speaking a lot cheaper to add and
replace and maintain than the full blown pioneers that we have out there
currently (assuming we have a server dedicated to take on the load,
which we do). Running 8.03.409a, any specs I should look for? Thanks!

Rob Bucek

Production Control Manager

PH: (715) 284-5376 ext 311

Mobile: (715)896-0590

FAX: (715)284-4084

<http://www.dsmfg.com/>

(Click the logo to view our site) <http://www.dsmfg.com/>

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I'll 3rd the HP recommendation. I use mine to connect to full VMs on a XenServer host, so far with no real problems. The only issue we had was easily resolved by my non-technical assistant calling HP support which was very helpful.

I will say that USB pass-through to the VMs is tricky if not impossible for some devices. (I can get external HDDs and thumb drives to work but no luck so far with printers.) However I'll also admit I haven't had a lot of time to spend on it.

In my opinion, a pretty impressive box for a $200 from NewEgg. (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16859105659&cm_re=HP_thin_client-_-59-105-659-_-Product)

HP also makes a bracket for mounting the thing to the back of a monitor which is nice, even at the $20 price tag.

I don't work for NewEgg or HP either... :)

Sean B
Director of IT
HMU, LLC

The firmware is straight-forward and easy to set up.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Bucek" <rbucek@...> wrote:
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> I wanted to put out a single setup to compare performance to our POS
> units. Its seems to be conceptually speaking a lot cheaper to add and
> replace and maintain than the full blown pioneers that we have out there
> currently (assuming we have a server dedicated to take on the load,
> which we do). Running 8.03.409a, any specs I should look for? Thanks!
>
>
>
> Rob Bucek
>
> Production Control Manager
>
> PH: (715) 284-5376 ext 311
>
> Mobile: (715)896-0590
>
> FAX: (715)284-4084
>
> <http://www.dsmfg.com/>
>
> (Click the logo to view our site) <http://www.dsmfg.com/>
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POS was a reference to the type of computers I was using out on the
floor (point of service) a all-in-one touch screen/pc wall mount deal.
Thanks for your recommendation, I think ill give hp a shot and see how
it goes.



Rob Bucek

Production Control Manager

PH: (715) 284-5376 ext 311

Mobile: (715)896-0590

FAX: (715)284-4084

<http://www.dsmfg.com/>

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of James Todd
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 5:20 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] RE: any recomendations for thin client hardware to
run MES on the shop floor?





I don't know much about the PoS system in vantage (unless POS was meant
to mean something else), but I can at least tell you about thin clients
in regards to MES stations... MS Terminal Services and HP Thin Clients
all the way. Deployed them in both Distribution companies and Mfg
companies (Mfg using Vantage) environments. They're cheap, solid-state,
easy to manage. You can easily lock them down for security purposes and
setup to auto login to terminal services. They handle harsher
environments than PCs, since they don't have fans, they won't suck in
dust and coolant residue. And if they do ever fail, which is rare, you
just buy a new one for $300 and hook it up. Since they don't run regular
windows software, you don't have much to configure. You only have to
manage the terminal server. I've primarily used HP T55xx series
clients...and I don't work for HP or Microsoft so there's my
professional opinion...

-James

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To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] any recomendations for thin client hardware to run
MES on the shop floor?

I wanted to put out a single setup to compare performance to our POS
units. Its seems to be conceptually speaking a lot cheaper to add and
replace and maintain than the full blown pioneers that we have out there
currently (assuming we have a server dedicated to take on the load,
which we do). Running 8.03.409a, any specs I should look for? Thanks!

Rob Bucek

Production Control Manager

PH: (715) 284-5376 ext 311

Mobile: (715)896-0590

FAX: (715)284-4084

<http://www.dsmfg.com/>

(Click the logo to view our site) <http://www.dsmfg.com/>

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Thanks everyone J



Rob Bucek

Production Control Manager

PH: (715) 284-5376 ext 311

Mobile: (715)896-0590

FAX: (715)284-4084

<http://www.dsmfg.com/>

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Of sbraudrick@...
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 8:36 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: any recomendations for thin client hardware to
run MES on the shop floor?





I'll 3rd the HP recommendation. I use mine to connect to full VMs on a
XenServer host, so far with no real problems. The only issue we had was
easily resolved by my non-technical assistant calling HP support which
was very helpful.

I will say that USB pass-through to the VMs is tricky if not impossible
for some devices. (I can get external HDDs and thumb drives to work but
no luck so far with printers.) However I'll also admit I haven't had a
lot of time to spend on it.

In my opinion, a pretty impressive box for a $200 from NewEgg. (
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16859105659&cm_re=HP
_thin_client-_-59-105-659-_-Product)

HP also makes a bracket for mounting the thing to the back of a monitor
which is nice, even at the $20 price tag.

I don't work for NewEgg or HP either... :)

Sean B
Director of IT
HMU, LLC

The firmware is straight-forward and easy to set up.

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> I wanted to put out a single setup to compare performance to our POS
> units. Its seems to be conceptually speaking a lot cheaper to add and
> replace and maintain than the full blown pioneers that we have out
there
> currently (assuming we have a server dedicated to take on the load,
> which we do). Running 8.03.409a, any specs I should look for? Thanks!
>
>
>
> Rob Bucek
>
> Production Control Manager
>
> PH: (715) 284-5376 ext 311
>
> Mobile: (715)896-0590
>
> FAX: (715)284-4084
>
> <http://www.dsmfg.com/>
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