We canāt even explain this problem well enough to you smart people to fully be able to understand that we are running into. How are we supposed to get support to understand?
Man this is hard to test against. I had MES on test and dev ready to try to do two start/ends on each from 12:00 to 12:01. I got a warning on test so only got two to fire in dev, but neither got 24 hours.
I have had seven of these occur in 2022, so I am going to put my fix in place and monitor.
Changing the conversation a bit.
As a developer not familiar with the workings of the shop floor, what kind of activities can you be doing that require less than a minute?
How common it is?
Just out of curiosity, to be honest that was my first thought when I opened the thread.
It isnāt common but it should give you 0 not 24 hours
However we do have fast machines that can put out product at a rate of hundreds a minute
I know a different company that makes medical lenses which can do hundreds of serial tracked lenses a minute which each individual unit needs to be tracked and reported on
So it can happen and while I would understand it is uncommon it is definitely a bug to report 24 hours when less than one minute elapsed
I know @jgiese.wci has a machine that counts produced bags as they pass a sensor at the end of the machine and reports again tens or hundreds a minute
I donāt want to sound confrontational here, but to be honest, the clock in was not really designed to do what you are doing with it.
I agree that their choices were questionable however.
You would be hard pressed to convince me that clocking in/reporting qty/clocking out several times
a minute is a good use of resources, whether itās automated or not.
What possible business reason could there be where you would need costing and timing that accurate?
Couldnāt the whole issue be avoided if the product were reported in batches of x Items every so often and then that divided out ?
If there are valid business reasons to do it this way, I would like to hear that argument.
In manufacturing you can have a bunch of PLCs controlling machines with sensors that can be read through modbus and their values recorded to the operations they are processing⦠Itās pretty invaluable information for analytics, lot tracing, certifications, etc⦠We see this a lot with customers in aerospace, or medical equipment manufacturing, pharmaceuticals, etc⦠A mixing machine might record pH, temperature, reaction vessel pressure, reactant flow rate, error states, etcā¦
Iāve given a few examples before there are things you manufacture that require specific tracking particularly medical devices where you may need to know exactly how long it took who did it and when
However my issue is not that is just simply the fact that they are giving me 24 hours for 1 minute of work and however you slice it thatās a bug. Give me zero and Iāll shut up
Also this commonly happens as a mistake too, oops I clocks in to the wrong job let me clock out real quick and boom 24 hours
As Hugo said PLCs can report product down to the second or millisecond level.