Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual Server

Nevermind...Windows firewall on the server was blocking it. Thanks for the help

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Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual Server



Thanks Ned. I have apparently been stuck on 8.03.305 too long. I forgot all these steps. I was able to log into the admin tools on the server and ran the necessary conversions. I can now log in to the client on the server.

The same problem is still happening on my workstation though. I right clicked on the app server and saw it was port 8301 and then checked the default.mfgsys file on my workstation and the app server is listed as epicor80340x:8301 which is the correct server name and port. Any other ideas what I might be missing?

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Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual Server

Have you logged into the Admin Tools and run the conversions?

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Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual
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I ran the schema change per instructions and applied the latest patches.
What other conversions would need to be run?

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On Oct 12, 2011, at 5:24 PM, "Ned"
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You need to run schema changes and conversions before you can login with a
client.

Also be sure that the ports in the .mfgsys files are the same as on your
server.

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Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual
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Next problem...Running the client on my computer it ran through the copying
all the files to my client directory but then errors out saying that the app
server didn't respond in time. The AdminService is running. The app servers
are running and the database is running. When I try to run the client on the
server it says the system needs to be upgraded.

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Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual
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Not sure what I did different but I walked back through the steps below
again and it appears to be working. Thanks for the help.

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Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual
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Thanks Ned....fixed the PET problem

Still the same problem with prorest. Here is what I tried:

I removed everything from the epicor\mfgsys803\db directory on new server On
the old server I ran "prostrct repair mfgsys" in the epicor\Pilot803\db
directory Ran probkup in the Pilot803 directory (created PilotBkup.1 that is
about 3G) Copied PilotBkup.1 to the epicor\mfgsys803\db directory on new
server Ran "prorest mfgsys PilotBkup.1" in the mfgsys803\db folder Received
the same error as posted before.

I also tried copying the LiveBkup.1 file that was created as part of last
night's backup using the same process and got same result.

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Subject: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual Server

OK, this should go simply but maybe something was missed or out of sequence.

> > I copied our live database to the Pilot database
>> and then ran the truncate function which appeared to run fine
By copy, do you mean probkup, move backup file and then use prorest?
If so, can you also try "prostrct repair mfgsys"?
Then try to backup and restore...
And, why not wait to truncate until you get this backed up and restored over
to the new server?

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>
> I deleted everything in the db directory and still get the same error.
> One
other strange thing I ran into is when I try to run the Progress Explorer
tool I get an error that the mmc has stopped responding.
>
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> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual
> Server
>
>
>
> Sometimes this happens when moving from one location to another if
> there
are already files in the new directory.
> The prerest tries to match them before proceeding.
> You can delete (or move) any files that were in that directory & try
preorest again.
>
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wrote:
> >
> > I copied our live database to the Pilot database and then ran the
truncate function which appeared to run fine (no errors). I then used
ProBkUp to backup the Pilot database. I copied it to the new server 8.03.4xx
mfgsys database. When I try to use ProRest to restore it there I get the
following error:
> >
> > This backup of a 32-bit DBKEY database contains BI to TL data. It
> > cannot
be restored by the 64-bit DBKEY codebase (13732) Use the 10.1A prorest
utility to restore the database.
> >
> > The new server is server 2008 32-bit so I am not sure where the
> > 64-bit
reference is coming from. I thought I would be able to restore it there and
then run the schema change. What am I missing?
> >
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> > Subject: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New
> > Virtual Server
> >
> >
> >
> > For a test, I think I would stay away from the production database.
> > I always use a separate server to test upgrades & patches.
> > It should be easy to make a backup copy of the production db, then
truncate the copy.
> >
> > BTW... here is a ProgressTalk thread on truncating:
> > <http://www.progresstalk.com/showthread.php?114471-truncating-BI>
> > http://www.progresstalk.com/showthread.php?114471-truncating-BI
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> > >
> > > I am working on the intermediate step of coverting from 803.305 to
8.03.4xx before testing the new conversion tool to 9. In the instructions
the steps to convert the database are kinda confusing. It says I need to
truncate the bi (before image) before restoring it to the new server. My
concern is that it will damage the live database. Am I correct in this plan?
> > >
> > > run "proutil mfgsys -C truncate bi" on the existing server (do I
> > > need to stop all app servers?)
> > >
> > > Use ProBkUp to backup existing database
> > >
> > > Copy the backup file to the new server db directory
> > >
> > > Use ProRest to restore database on new server
> > >
> > > Launch client and run schema changes
> > >
> > > Any other thoughts or concerns? Thanks
> > >
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I am working on the intermediate step of coverting from 803.305 to 8.03.4xx before testing the new conversion tool to 9. In the instructions the steps to convert the database are kinda confusing. It says I need to truncate the bi (before image) before restoring it to the new server. My concern is that it will damage the live database. Am I correct in this plan?

run "proutil mfgsys -C truncate bi" on the existing server (do I need to stop all app servers?)

Use ProBkUp to backup existing database

Copy the backup file to the new server db directory

Use ProRest to restore database on new server

Launch client and run schema changes

Any other thoughts or concerns? Thanks
For a test, I think I would stay away from the production database.
I always use a separate server to test upgrades & patches.
It should be easy to make a backup copy of the production db, then truncate the copy.

BTW... here is a ProgressTalk thread on truncating:
http://www.progresstalk.com/showthread.php?114471-truncating-BI



--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <mtellefson@...> wrote:
>
> I am working on the intermediate step of coverting from 803.305 to 8.03.4xx before testing the new conversion tool to 9. In the instructions the steps to convert the database are kinda confusing. It says I need to truncate the bi (before image) before restoring it to the new server. My concern is that it will damage the live database. Am I correct in this plan?
>
> run "proutil mfgsys -C truncate bi" on the existing server (do I need to stop all app servers?)
>
> Use ProBkUp to backup existing database
>
> Copy the backup file to the new server db directory
>
> Use ProRest to restore database on new server
>
> Launch client and run schema changes
>
> Any other thoughts or concerns? Thanks
>
I copied our live database to the Pilot database and then ran the truncate function which appeared to run fine (no errors). I then used ProBkUp to backup the Pilot database. I copied it to the new server 8.03.4xx mfgsys database. When I try to use ProRest to restore it there I get the following error:

This backup of a 32-bit DBKEY database contains BI to TL data. It cannot be restored by the 64-bit DBKEY codebase (13732) Use the 10.1A prorest utility to restore the database.

The new server is server 2008 32-bit so I am not sure where the 64-bit reference is coming from. I thought I would be able to restore it there and then run the schema change. What am I missing?

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of cooner_55421
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 2:27 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual Server



For a test, I think I would stay away from the production database.
I always use a separate server to test upgrades & patches.
It should be easy to make a backup copy of the production db, then truncate the copy.

BTW... here is a ProgressTalk thread on truncating:
http://www.progresstalk.com/showthread.php?114471-truncating-BI

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>, "Mark" <mtellefson@...> wrote:
>
> I am working on the intermediate step of coverting from 803.305 to 8.03.4xx before testing the new conversion tool to 9. In the instructions the steps to convert the database are kinda confusing. It says I need to truncate the bi (before image) before restoring it to the new server. My concern is that it will damage the live database. Am I correct in this plan?
>
> run "proutil mfgsys -C truncate bi" on the existing server (do I need to stop all app servers?)
>
> Use ProBkUp to backup existing database
>
> Copy the backup file to the new server db directory
>
> Use ProRest to restore database on new server
>
> Launch client and run schema changes
>
> Any other thoughts or concerns? Thanks
>

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I deleted everything in the db directory and still get the same error. One other strange thing I ran into is when I try to run the Progress Explorer tool I get an error that the mmc has stopped responding.

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Subject: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual Server



Sometimes this happens when moving from one location to another if there are already files in the new directory.
The prerest tries to match them before proceeding.
You can delete (or move) any files that were in that directory & try preorest again.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>, Mark Tellefson <mtellefson@...<mailto:mtellefson@...>> wrote:
>
> I copied our live database to the Pilot database and then ran the truncate function which appeared to run fine (no errors). I then used ProBkUp to backup the Pilot database. I copied it to the new server 8.03.4xx mfgsys database. When I try to use ProRest to restore it there I get the following error:
>
> This backup of a 32-bit DBKEY database contains BI to TL data. It cannot be restored by the 64-bit DBKEY codebase (13732) Use the 10.1A prorest utility to restore the database.
>
> The new server is server 2008 32-bit so I am not sure where the 64-bit reference is coming from. I thought I would be able to restore it there and then run the schema change. What am I missing?
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of cooner_55421
> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 2:27 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual Server
>
>
>
> For a test, I think I would stay away from the production database.
> I always use a separate server to test upgrades & patches.
> It should be easy to make a backup copy of the production db, then truncate the copy.
>
> BTW... here is a ProgressTalk thread on truncating:
> http://www.progresstalk.com/showthread.php?114471-truncating-BI
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>, "Mark" <mtellefson@> wrote:
> >
> > I am working on the intermediate step of coverting from 803.305 to 8.03.4xx before testing the new conversion tool to 9. In the instructions the steps to convert the database are kinda confusing. It says I need to truncate the bi (before image) before restoring it to the new server. My concern is that it will damage the live database. Am I correct in this plan?
> >
> > run "proutil mfgsys -C truncate bi" on the existing server (do I need to stop all app servers?)
> >
> > Use ProBkUp to backup existing database
> >
> > Copy the backup file to the new server db directory
> >
> > Use ProRest to restore database on new server
> >
> > Launch client and run schema changes
> >
> > Any other thoughts or concerns? Thanks
> >
>
> __________________________________________________________
>
> [http://www.rapat.com/download/logoflat.jpg%5d<http://www.rapat.com>
>
> Mark Tellefson | Global IT Director | www.rapat.com<http://www.rapat.com>
>
> Phone: (218) 483-3344 | Toll Free: (800) 325-6377
>
> Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient and received this in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail. You are hereby notified that the copying, use or distribution of any information or materials transmitted in or with this message is strictly prohibited.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Thanks Ned....fixed the PET problem

Still the same problem with prorest. Here is what I tried:

I removed everything from the epicor\mfgsys803\db directory on new server
On the old server I ran "prostrct repair mfgsys" in the epicor\Pilot803\db directory
Ran probkup in the Pilot803 directory (created PilotBkup.1 that is about 3G)
Copied PilotBkup.1 to the epicor\mfgsys803\db directory on new server
Ran "prorest mfgsys PilotBkup.1" in the mfgsys803\db folder
Received the same error as posted before.

I also tried copying the LiveBkup.1 file that was created as part of last night's backup using the same process and got same result.


From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of cooner_55421
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:50 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual Server



OK, this should go simply but maybe something was missed or out of sequence.

> > I copied our live database to the Pilot database
>> and then ran the truncate function which appeared to run fine
By copy, do you mean probkup, move backup file and then use prorest?
If so, can you also try "prostrct repair mfgsys"?
Then try to backup and restore...
And, why not wait to truncate until you get this backed up and restored over to the new server?

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>, Mark Tellefson <mtellefson@...<mailto:mtellefson@...>> wrote:
>
> I deleted everything in the db directory and still get the same error. One other strange thing I ran into is when I try to run the Progress Explorer tool I get an error that the mmc has stopped responding.
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of cooner_55421
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:56 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual Server
>
>
>
> Sometimes this happens when moving from one location to another if there are already files in the new directory.
> The prerest tries to match them before proceeding.
> You can delete (or move) any files that were in that directory & try preorest again.
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>, Mark Tellefson <mtellefson@<mailto:mtellefson@>> wrote:
> >
> > I copied our live database to the Pilot database and then ran the truncate function which appeared to run fine (no errors). I then used ProBkUp to backup the Pilot database. I copied it to the new server 8.03.4xx mfgsys database. When I try to use ProRest to restore it there I get the following error:
> >
> > This backup of a 32-bit DBKEY database contains BI to TL data. It cannot be restored by the 64-bit DBKEY codebase (13732) Use the 10.1A prorest utility to restore the database.
> >
> > The new server is server 2008 32-bit so I am not sure where the 64-bit reference is coming from. I thought I would be able to restore it there and then run the schema change. What am I missing?
> >
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of cooner_55421
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 2:27 PM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual Server
> >
> >
> >
> > For a test, I think I would stay away from the production database.
> > I always use a separate server to test upgrades & patches.
> > It should be easy to make a backup copy of the production db, then truncate the copy.
> >
> > BTW... here is a ProgressTalk thread on truncating:
> > http://www.progresstalk.com/showthread.php?114471-truncating-BI
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>, "Mark" <mtellefson@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I am working on the intermediate step of coverting from 803.305 to 8.03.4xx before testing the new conversion tool to 9. In the instructions the steps to convert the database are kinda confusing. It says I need to truncate the bi (before image) before restoring it to the new server. My concern is that it will damage the live database. Am I correct in this plan?
> > >
> > > run "proutil mfgsys -C truncate bi" on the existing server (do I need to stop all app servers?)
> > >
> > > Use ProBkUp to backup existing database
> > >
> > > Copy the backup file to the new server db directory
> > >
> > > Use ProRest to restore database on new server
> > >
> > > Launch client and run schema changes
> > >
> > > Any other thoughts or concerns? Thanks
> > >
> >
> > __________________________________________________________
> >
> > [http://www.rapat.com/download/logoflat.jpg%5d<http://www.rapat.com>
> >
> > Mark Tellefson | Global IT Director | www.rapat.com<http://www.rapat.com>
> >
> > Phone: (218) 483-3344 | Toll Free: (800) 325-6377
> >
> > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient and received this in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail. You are hereby notified that the copying, use or distribution of any information or materials transmitted in or with this message is strictly prohibited.
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Not sure what I did different but I walked back through the steps below again and it appears to be working. Thanks for the help.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Tellefson
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:26 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual Server



Thanks Ned....fixed the PET problem

Still the same problem with prorest. Here is what I tried:

I removed everything from the epicor\mfgsys803\db directory on new server
On the old server I ran "prostrct repair mfgsys" in the epicor\Pilot803\db directory
Ran probkup in the Pilot803 directory (created PilotBkup.1 that is about 3G)
Copied PilotBkup.1 to the epicor\mfgsys803\db directory on new server
Ran "prorest mfgsys PilotBkup.1" in the mfgsys803\db folder
Received the same error as posted before.

I also tried copying the LiveBkup.1 file that was created as part of last night's backup using the same process and got same result.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of cooner_55421
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:50 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual Server

OK, this should go simply but maybe something was missed or out of sequence.

> > I copied our live database to the Pilot database
>> and then ran the truncate function which appeared to run fine
By copy, do you mean probkup, move backup file and then use prorest?
If so, can you also try "prostrct repair mfgsys"?
Then try to backup and restore...
And, why not wait to truncate until you get this backed up and restored over to the new server?

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>, Mark Tellefson <mtellefson@...<mailto:mtellefson@...<mailto:mtellefson@...%3cmailto:mtellefson@...>>> wrote:
>
> I deleted everything in the db directory and still get the same error. One other strange thing I ran into is when I try to run the Progress Explorer tool I get an error that the mmc has stopped responding.
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of cooner_55421
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:56 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual Server
>
>
>
> Sometimes this happens when moving from one location to another if there are already files in the new directory.
> The prerest tries to match them before proceeding.
> You can delete (or move) any files that were in that directory & try preorest again.
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>, Mark Tellefson <mtellefson@<mailto:mtellefson@>> wrote:
> >
> > I copied our live database to the Pilot database and then ran the truncate function which appeared to run fine (no errors). I then used ProBkUp to backup the Pilot database. I copied it to the new server 8.03.4xx mfgsys database. When I try to use ProRest to restore it there I get the following error:
> >
> > This backup of a 32-bit DBKEY database contains BI to TL data. It cannot be restored by the 64-bit DBKEY codebase (13732) Use the 10.1A prorest utility to restore the database.
> >
> > The new server is server 2008 32-bit so I am not sure where the 64-bit reference is coming from. I thought I would be able to restore it there and then run the schema change. What am I missing?
> >
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of cooner_55421
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 2:27 PM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual Server
> >
> >
> >
> > For a test, I think I would stay away from the production database.
> > I always use a separate server to test upgrades & patches.
> > It should be easy to make a backup copy of the production db, then truncate the copy.
> >
> > BTW... here is a ProgressTalk thread on truncating:
> > http://www.progresstalk.com/showthread.php?114471-truncating-BI
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>, "Mark" <mtellefson@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I am working on the intermediate step of coverting from 803.305 to 8.03.4xx before testing the new conversion tool to 9. In the instructions the steps to convert the database are kinda confusing. It says I need to truncate the bi (before image) before restoring it to the new server. My concern is that it will damage the live database. Am I correct in this plan?
> > >
> > > run "proutil mfgsys -C truncate bi" on the existing server (do I need to stop all app servers?)
> > >
> > > Use ProBkUp to backup existing database
> > >
> > > Copy the backup file to the new server db directory
> > >
> > > Use ProRest to restore database on new server
> > >
> > > Launch client and run schema changes
> > >
> > > Any other thoughts or concerns? Thanks
> > >
> >
> > __________________________________________________________
> >
> > [http://www.rapat.com/download/logoflat.jpg%5d<http://www.rapat.com>
> >
> > Mark Tellefson | Global IT Director | www.rapat.com<http://www.rapat.com>
> >
> > Phone: (218) 483-3344 | Toll Free: (800) 325-6377
> >
> > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient and received this in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail. You are hereby notified that the copying, use or distribution of any information or materials transmitted in or with this message is strictly prohibited.
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Next problem...Running the client on my computer it ran through the copying all the files to my client directory but then errors out saying that the app server didn't respond in time. The AdminService is running. The app servers are running and the database is running. When I try to run the client on the server it says the system needs to be upgraded.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Tellefson
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 3:59 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual Server



Not sure what I did different but I walked back through the steps below again and it appears to be working. Thanks for the help.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Mark Tellefson
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:26 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:%27vantage%40yahoogroups.com>'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual Server

Thanks Ned....fixed the PET problem

Still the same problem with prorest. Here is what I tried:

I removed everything from the epicor\mfgsys803\db directory on new server
On the old server I ran "prostrct repair mfgsys" in the epicor\Pilot803\db directory
Ran probkup in the Pilot803 directory (created PilotBkup.1 that is about 3G)
Copied PilotBkup.1 to the epicor\mfgsys803\db directory on new server
Ran "prorest mfgsys PilotBkup.1" in the mfgsys803\db folder
Received the same error as posted before.

I also tried copying the LiveBkup.1 file that was created as part of last night's backup using the same process and got same result.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of cooner_55421
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:50 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual Server

OK, this should go simply but maybe something was missed or out of sequence.

> > I copied our live database to the Pilot database
>> and then ran the truncate function which appeared to run fine
By copy, do you mean probkup, move backup file and then use prorest?
If so, can you also try "prostrct repair mfgsys"?
Then try to backup and restore...
And, why not wait to truncate until you get this backed up and restored over to the new server?

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>, Mark Tellefson <mtellefson@...<mailto:mtellefson@...<mailto:mtellefson@...%3cmailto:mtellefson@...<mailto:mtellefson@...%3cmailto:mtellefson@...%3cmailto:mtellefson@...%3cmailto:mtellefson@...>>>> wrote:
>
> I deleted everything in the db directory and still get the same error. One other strange thing I ran into is when I try to run the Progress Explorer tool I get an error that the mmc has stopped responding.
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of cooner_55421
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:56 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual Server
>
>
>
> Sometimes this happens when moving from one location to another if there are already files in the new directory.
> The prerest tries to match them before proceeding.
> You can delete (or move) any files that were in that directory & try preorest again.
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>, Mark Tellefson <mtellefson@<mailto:mtellefson@>> wrote:
> >
> > I copied our live database to the Pilot database and then ran the truncate function which appeared to run fine (no errors). I then used ProBkUp to backup the Pilot database. I copied it to the new server 8.03.4xx mfgsys database. When I try to use ProRest to restore it there I get the following error:
> >
> > This backup of a 32-bit DBKEY database contains BI to TL data. It cannot be restored by the 64-bit DBKEY codebase (13732) Use the 10.1A prorest utility to restore the database.
> >
> > The new server is server 2008 32-bit so I am not sure where the 64-bit reference is coming from. I thought I would be able to restore it there and then run the schema change. What am I missing?
> >
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of cooner_55421
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 2:27 PM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual Server
> >
> >
> >
> > For a test, I think I would stay away from the production database.
> > I always use a separate server to test upgrades & patches.
> > It should be easy to make a backup copy of the production db, then truncate the copy.
> >
> > BTW... here is a ProgressTalk thread on truncating:
> > http://www.progresstalk.com/showthread.php?114471-truncating-BI
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>, "Mark" <mtellefson@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I am working on the intermediate step of coverting from 803.305 to 8.03.4xx before testing the new conversion tool to 9. In the instructions the steps to convert the database are kinda confusing. It says I need to truncate the bi (before image) before restoring it to the new server. My concern is that it will damage the live database. Am I correct in this plan?
> > >
> > > run "proutil mfgsys -C truncate bi" on the existing server (do I need to stop all app servers?)
> > >
> > > Use ProBkUp to backup existing database
> > >
> > > Copy the backup file to the new server db directory
> > >
> > > Use ProRest to restore database on new server
> > >
> > > Launch client and run schema changes
> > >
> > > Any other thoughts or concerns? Thanks
> > >
> >
> > __________________________________________________________
> >
> > [http://www.rapat.com/download/logoflat.jpg%5d<http://www.rapat.com>
> >
> > Mark Tellefson | Global IT Director | www.rapat.com<http://www.rapat.com>
> >
> > Phone: (218) 483-3344 | Toll Free: (800) 325-6377
> >
> > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient and received this in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail. You are hereby notified that the copying, use or distribution of any information or materials transmitted in or with this message is strictly prohibited.
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



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You need to run schema changes and conversions before you can login with a
client.

Also be sure that the ports in the .mfgsys files are the same as on your
server.


Ned
Alternative Technology Partners


-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Mark Tellefson
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:51 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual
Server

Next problem...Running the client on my computer it ran through the copying
all the files to my client directory but then errors out saying that the app
server didn't respond in time. The AdminService is running. The app
servers are running and the database is running. When I try to run the
client on the server it says the system needs to be upgraded.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Mark Tellefson
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 3:59 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual
Server



Not sure what I did different but I walked back through the steps below
again and it appears to be working. Thanks for the help.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf
Of Mark Tellefson
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:26 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:%27vantage%40yahoogroups.com>'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual
Server

Thanks Ned....fixed the PET problem

Still the same problem with prorest. Here is what I tried:

I removed everything from the epicor\mfgsys803\db directory on new server On
the old server I ran "prostrct repair mfgsys" in the epicor\Pilot803\db
directory Ran probkup in the Pilot803 directory (created PilotBkup.1 that is
about 3G) Copied PilotBkup.1 to the epicor\mfgsys803\db directory on new
server Ran "prorest mfgsys PilotBkup.1" in the mfgsys803\db folder Received
the same error as posted before.

I also tried copying the LiveBkup.1 file that was created as part of last
night's backup using the same process and got same result.

From:
vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40y
ahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:van
tage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of cooner_55421
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:50 AM
To:
vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40y
ahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual Server

OK, this should go simply but maybe something was missed or out of sequence.

> > I copied our live database to the Pilot database
>> and then ran the truncate function which appeared to run fine
By copy, do you mean probkup, move backup file and then use prorest?
If so, can you also try "prostrct repair mfgsys"?
Then try to backup and restore...
And, why not wait to truncate until you get this backed up and restored over
to the new server?

--- In
vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40y
ahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>, Mark Tellefson
<mtellefson@...<mailto:mtellefson@...<mailto:mtellefson@...%3cmailto:mtellef
son@...<mailto:mtellefson@...%3cmailto:mtellefson@...%3cmailto:mtellefson@..
.%3cmailto:mtellefson@...>>>> wrote:
>
> I deleted everything in the db directory and still get the same error. One
other strange thing I ran into is when I try to run the Progress Explorer
tool I get an error that the mmc has stopped responding.
>
> From:
> vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vanta
> ge%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mail
> to:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On
> Behalf Of cooner_55421
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:56 AM
> To:
> vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vanta
> ge%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual
> Server
>
>
>
> Sometimes this happens when moving from one location to another if there
are already files in the new directory.
> The prerest tries to match them before proceeding.
> You can delete (or move) any files that were in that directory & try
preorest again.
>
> --- In
vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40y
ahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogrou
ps.com>, Mark Tellefson <mtellefson@<mailto:mtellefson@>> wrote:
> >
> > I copied our live database to the Pilot database and then ran the
truncate function which appeared to run fine (no errors). I then used
ProBkUp to backup the Pilot database. I copied it to the new server 8.03.4xx
mfgsys database. When I try to use ProRest to restore it there I get the
following error:
> >
> > This backup of a 32-bit DBKEY database contains BI to TL data. It cannot
be restored by the 64-bit DBKEY codebase (13732) Use the 10.1A prorest
utility to restore the database.
> >
> > The new server is server 2008 32-bit so I am not sure where the 64-bit
reference is coming from. I thought I would be able to restore it there and
then run the schema change. What am I missing?
> >
> > From:
> > vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:van
> > tage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:van
> > tage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><ma
> > ilto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><ma
> > ilto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of cooner_55421
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 2:27 PM
> > To:
> > vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:van
> > tage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:van
> > tage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New
> > Virtual Server
> >
> >
> >
> > For a test, I think I would stay away from the production database.
> > I always use a separate server to test upgrades & patches.
> > It should be easy to make a backup copy of the production db, then
truncate the copy.
> >
> > BTW... here is a ProgressTalk thread on truncating:
> > http://www.progresstalk.com/showthread.php?114471-truncating-BI
> >
> > --- In
vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40y
ahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogrou
ps.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>, "Mark" <mtellefson@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I am working on the intermediate step of coverting from 803.305 to
8.03.4xx before testing the new conversion tool to 9. In the instructions
the steps to convert the database are kinda confusing. It says I need to
truncate the bi (before image) before restoring it to the new server. My
concern is that it will damage the live database. Am I correct in this plan?
> > >
> > > run "proutil mfgsys -C truncate bi" on the existing server (do I
> > > need to stop all app servers?)
> > >
> > > Use ProBkUp to backup existing database
> > >
> > > Copy the backup file to the new server db directory
> > >
> > > Use ProRest to restore database on new server
> > >
> > > Launch client and run schema changes
> > >
> > > Any other thoughts or concerns? Thanks
> > >
> >
> > __________________________________________________________
> >
> > [http://www.rapat.com/download/logoflat.jpg%5d<http://www.rapat.com>
> >
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> >
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I ran the schema change per instructions and applied the latest patches. What other conversions would need to be run?

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 12, 2011, at 5:24 PM, "Ned" <TechnoBabbly@...<mailto:TechnoBabbly@...>> wrote:



You need to run schema changes and conversions before you can login with a
client.

Also be sure that the ports in the .mfgsys files are the same as on your
server.

Ned
Alternative Technology Partners

-----Original Message-----
From: <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
Mark Tellefson
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:51 PM
To: '<mailto:%27vantage%40yahoogroups.com>vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com>'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual
Server

Next problem...Running the client on my computer it ran through the copying
all the files to my client directory but then errors out saying that the app
server didn't respond in time. The AdminService is running. The app
servers are running and the database is running. When I try to run the
client on the server it says the system needs to be upgraded.

From: <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
Mark Tellefson
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 3:59 PM
To: '<mailto:%27vantage%40yahoogroups.com>vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com>'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual
Server

Not sure what I did different but I walked back through the steps below
again and it appears to be working. Thanks for the help.

From: <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf
Of Mark Tellefson
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:26 PM
To: '<mailto:%27vantage%40yahoogroups.com>vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com><mailto:%27vantage%40yahoogroups.com>'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual
Server

Thanks Ned....fixed the PET problem

Still the same problem with prorest. Here is what I tried:

I removed everything from the epicor\mfgsys803\db directory on new server On
the old server I ran "prostrct repair mfgsys" in the epicor\Pilot803\db
directory Ran probkup in the Pilot803 directory (created PilotBkup.1 that is
about 3G) Copied PilotBkup.1 to the epicor\mfgsys803\db directory on new
server Ran "prorest mfgsys PilotBkup.1" in the mfgsys803\db folder Received
the same error as posted before.

I also tried copying the LiveBkup.1 file that was created as part of last
night's backup using the same process and got same result.

From:
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40y
ahoogroups.com<http://ahoogroups.com>>
[mailto:<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:van
tage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of cooner_55421
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:50 AM
To:
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40y
ahoogroups.com<http://ahoogroups.com>>
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual Server

OK, this should go simply but maybe something was missed or out of sequence.

> > I copied our live database to the Pilot database
>> and then ran the truncate function which appeared to run fine
By copy, do you mean probkup, move backup file and then use prorest?
If so, can you also try "prostrct repair mfgsys"?
Then try to backup and restore...
And, why not wait to truncate until you get this backed up and restored over
to the new server?

--- In
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40y
ahoogroups.com<http://ahoogroups.com>><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>, Mark Tellefson
<mtellefson@...<mailto:mtellefson@...<mailto:mtellefson@...%3cmailto:mtellef
son@...<mailto:mtellefson@...%3cmailto:mtellefson@...%3cmailto:mtellefson@..
.%3cmailto:mtellefson@...>>>> wrote:
>
> I deleted everything in the db directory and still get the same error. One
other strange thing I ran into is when I try to run the Progress Explorer
tool I get an error that the mmc has stopped responding.
>
> From:
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vanta
> ge%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mail
> to:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On
> Behalf Of cooner_55421
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:56 AM
> To:
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vanta
> ge%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual
> Server
>
>
>
> Sometimes this happens when moving from one location to another if there
are already files in the new directory.
> The prerest tries to match them before proceeding.
> You can delete (or move) any files that were in that directory & try
preorest again.
>
> --- In
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40y
ahoogroups.com<http://ahoogroups.com>><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogrou
ps.com<http://ps.com>>, Mark Tellefson <mtellefson@<mailto:mtellefson@>> wrote:
> >
> > I copied our live database to the Pilot database and then ran the
truncate function which appeared to run fine (no errors). I then used
ProBkUp to backup the Pilot database. I copied it to the new server 8.03.4xx
mfgsys database. When I try to use ProRest to restore it there I get the
following error:
> >
> > This backup of a 32-bit DBKEY database contains BI to TL data. It cannot
be restored by the 64-bit DBKEY codebase (13732) Use the 10.1A prorest
utility to restore the database.
> >
> > The new server is server 2008 32-bit so I am not sure where the 64-bit
reference is coming from. I thought I would be able to restore it there and
then run the schema change. What am I missing?
> >
> > From:
> > <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:van
> > tage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:van
> > tage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><ma
> > ilto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><ma
> > ilto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of cooner_55421
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 2:27 PM
> > To:
> > <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:van
> > tage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:van
> > tage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New
> > Virtual Server
> >
> >
> >
> > For a test, I think I would stay away from the production database.
> > I always use a separate server to test upgrades & patches.
> > It should be easy to make a backup copy of the production db, then
truncate the copy.
> >
> > BTW... here is a ProgressTalk thread on truncating:
> > <http://www.progresstalk.com/showthread.php?114471-truncating-BI> http://www.progresstalk.com/showthread.php?114471-truncating-BI
> >
> > --- In
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40y
ahoogroups.com<http://ahoogroups.com>><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogrou
ps.com<http://ps.com>><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>, "Mark" <mtellefson@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I am working on the intermediate step of coverting from 803.305 to
8.03.4xx before testing the new conversion tool to 9. In the instructions
the steps to convert the database are kinda confusing. It says I need to
truncate the bi (before image) before restoring it to the new server. My
concern is that it will damage the live database. Am I correct in this plan?
> > >
> > > run "proutil mfgsys -C truncate bi" on the existing server (do I
> > > need to stop all app servers?)
> > >
> > > Use ProBkUp to backup existing database
> > >
> > > Copy the backup file to the new server db directory
> > >
> > > Use ProRest to restore database on new server
> > >
> > > Launch client and run schema changes
> > >
> > > Any other thoughts or concerns? Thanks
> > >
> >
> > __________________________________________________________
> >
> > [<http://www.rapat.com/download/logoflat.jpg>http://www.rapat.com/download/logoflat.jpg%5d<<http://www.rapat.com>http://www.rapat.com>
> >
> > Mark Tellefson | Global IT Director |
> > www.rapat.com<http://www.rapat.com><<http://www.rapat.com>http://www.rapat.com>
> >
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Have you logged into the Admin Tools and run the conversions?


-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Mark Tellefson
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 6:34 PM
To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual
Server

I ran the schema change per instructions and applied the latest patches.
What other conversions would need to be run?

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 12, 2011, at 5:24 PM, "Ned"
<TechnoBabbly@...<mailto:TechnoBabbly@...>> wrote:



You need to run schema changes and conversions before you can login with a
client.

Also be sure that the ports in the .mfgsys files are the same as on your
server.

Ned
Alternative Technology Partners

-----Original Message-----
From: <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:van
tage@yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Mark Tellefson
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:51 PM
To:
'<mailto:%27vantage%40yahoogroups.com>vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage
@yahoogroups.com>'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual
Server

Next problem...Running the client on my computer it ran through the copying
all the files to my client directory but then errors out saying that the app
server didn't respond in time. The AdminService is running. The app servers
are running and the database is running. When I try to run the client on the
server it says the system needs to be upgraded.

From: <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:van
tage@yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Mark Tellefson
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 3:59 PM
To:
'<mailto:%27vantage%40yahoogroups.com>vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage
@yahoogroups.com>'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual
Server

Not sure what I did different but I walked back through the steps below
again and it appears to be working. Thanks for the help.

From: <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yah
oogroups.com>
[mailto:<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:van
tage@yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Mark
Tellefson
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:26 PM
To:
'<mailto:%27vantage%40yahoogroups.com>vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage
@yahoogroups.com><mailto:%27vantage%40yahoogroups.com>'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual
Server

Thanks Ned....fixed the PET problem

Still the same problem with prorest. Here is what I tried:

I removed everything from the epicor\mfgsys803\db directory on new server On
the old server I ran "prostrct repair mfgsys" in the epicor\Pilot803\db
directory Ran probkup in the Pilot803 directory (created PilotBkup.1 that is
about 3G) Copied PilotBkup.1 to the epicor\mfgsys803\db directory on new
server Ran "prorest mfgsys PilotBkup.1" in the mfgsys803\db folder Received
the same error as posted before.

I also tried copying the LiveBkup.1 file that was created as part of last
night's backup using the same process and got same result.

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Subject: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual Server

OK, this should go simply but maybe something was missed or out of sequence.

> > I copied our live database to the Pilot database
>> and then ran the truncate function which appeared to run fine
By copy, do you mean probkup, move backup file and then use prorest?
If so, can you also try "prostrct repair mfgsys"?
Then try to backup and restore...
And, why not wait to truncate until you get this backed up and restored over
to the new server?

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>
> I deleted everything in the db directory and still get the same error.
> One
other strange thing I ran into is when I try to run the Progress Explorer
tool I get an error that the mmc has stopped responding.
>
> From:
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> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual
> Server
>
>
>
> Sometimes this happens when moving from one location to another if
> there
are already files in the new directory.
> The prerest tries to match them before proceeding.
> You can delete (or move) any files that were in that directory & try
preorest again.
>
> --- In
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oogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40y
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lto:vantage%40yahoogrou
ps.com<http://ps.com>>, Mark Tellefson <mtellefson@<mailto:mtellefson@>>
wrote:
> >
> > I copied our live database to the Pilot database and then ran the
truncate function which appeared to run fine (no errors). I then used
ProBkUp to backup the Pilot database. I copied it to the new server 8.03.4xx
mfgsys database. When I try to use ProRest to restore it there I get the
following error:
> >
> > This backup of a 32-bit DBKEY database contains BI to TL data. It
> > cannot
be restored by the 64-bit DBKEY codebase (13732) Use the 10.1A prorest
utility to restore the database.
> >
> > The new server is server 2008 32-bit so I am not sure where the
> > 64-bit
reference is coming from. I thought I would be able to restore it there and
then run the schema change. What am I missing?
> >
> > From:
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> > Subject: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New
> > Virtual Server
> >
> >
> >
> > For a test, I think I would stay away from the production database.
> > I always use a separate server to test upgrades & patches.
> > It should be easy to make a backup copy of the production db, then
truncate the copy.
> >
> > BTW... here is a ProgressTalk thread on truncating:
> > <http://www.progresstalk.com/showthread.php?114471-truncating-BI>
> > http://www.progresstalk.com/showthread.php?114471-truncating-BI
> >
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ps.com<http://ps.com>><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>, "Mark"
<mtellefson@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I am working on the intermediate step of coverting from 803.305 to
8.03.4xx before testing the new conversion tool to 9. In the instructions
the steps to convert the database are kinda confusing. It says I need to
truncate the bi (before image) before restoring it to the new server. My
concern is that it will damage the live database. Am I correct in this plan?
> > >
> > > run "proutil mfgsys -C truncate bi" on the existing server (do I
> > > need to stop all app servers?)
> > >
> > > Use ProBkUp to backup existing database
> > >
> > > Copy the backup file to the new server db directory
> > >
> > > Use ProRest to restore database on new server
> > >
> > > Launch client and run schema changes
> > >
> > > Any other thoughts or concerns? Thanks
> > >
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Thanks Ned. I have apparently been stuck on 8.03.305 too long. I forgot all these steps. I was able to log into the admin tools on the server and ran the necessary conversions. I can now log in to the client on the server.

The same problem is still happening on my workstation though. I right clicked on the app server and saw it was port 8301 and then checked the default.mfgsys file on my workstation and the app server is listed as epicor80340x:8301 which is the correct server name and port. Any other ideas what I might be missing?

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ned
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:38 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual Server



Have you logged into the Admin Tools and run the conversions?

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
Mark Tellefson
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 6:34 PM
To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>>
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual
Server

I ran the schema change per instructions and applied the latest patches.
What other conversions would need to be run?

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 12, 2011, at 5:24 PM, "Ned"
<TechnoBabbly@...<mailto:TechnoBabbly%40gmail.com><mailto:TechnoBabbly@...<mailto:TechnoBabbly%40gmail.com>>> wrote:

You need to run schema changes and conversions before you can login with a
client.

Also be sure that the ports in the .mfgsys files are the same as on your
server.

Ned
Alternative Technology Partners

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual
Server

Next problem...Running the client on my computer it ran through the copying
all the files to my client directory but then errors out saying that the app
server didn't respond in time. The AdminService is running. The app servers
are running and the database is running. When I try to run the client on the
server it says the system needs to be upgraded.

From: <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>>
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Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual
Server

Not sure what I did different but I walked back through the steps below
again and it appears to be working. Thanks for the help.

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Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual
Server

Thanks Ned....fixed the PET problem

Still the same problem with prorest. Here is what I tried:

I removed everything from the epicor\mfgsys803\db directory on new server On
the old server I ran "prostrct repair mfgsys" in the epicor\Pilot803\db
directory Ran probkup in the Pilot803 directory (created PilotBkup.1 that is
about 3G) Copied PilotBkup.1 to the epicor\mfgsys803\db directory on new
server Ran "prorest mfgsys PilotBkup.1" in the mfgsys803\db folder Received
the same error as posted before.

I also tried copying the LiveBkup.1 file that was created as part of last
night's backup using the same process and got same result.

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Subject: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual Server

OK, this should go simply but maybe something was missed or out of sequence.

> > I copied our live database to the Pilot database
>> and then ran the truncate function which appeared to run fine
By copy, do you mean probkup, move backup file and then use prorest?
If so, can you also try "prostrct repair mfgsys"?
Then try to backup and restore...
And, why not wait to truncate until you get this backed up and restored over
to the new server?

--- In
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oogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40y
ahoogroups.com<http://ahoogroups.com>><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>,
Mark Tellefson
<mtellefson@...<mailto:mtellefson@...<mailto:mtellefson@...%3cmailto:mtellef
son@...<mailto:mtellefson@...%3cmailto:mtellefson@...%3cmailto:mtellefson@..
.%3cmailto:mtellefson@...<mailto:mtellefson@...%3cmailto:mtellefson@...%3cmailto:mtellefson@...%3cmailto:mtellef%0bson@...%3cmailto:mtellefson@...%3cmailto:mtellefson@...%3cmailto:mtellefson@..%0b.%3cmailto:mtellefson@...>>>>> wrote:
>
> I deleted everything in the db directory and still get the same error.
> One
other strange thing I ran into is when I try to run the Progress Explorer
tool I get an error that the mmc has stopped responding.
>
> From:
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>><mailto:vantage
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> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New Virtual
> Server
>
>
>
> Sometimes this happens when moving from one location to another if
> there
are already files in the new directory.
> The prerest tries to match them before proceeding.
> You can delete (or move) any files that were in that directory & try
preorest again.
>
> --- In
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oogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40y
ahoogroups.com<http://ahoogroups.com>><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mai
lto:vantage%40yahoogrou
ps.com<http://ps.com>>, Mark Tellefson <mtellefson@<mailto:mtellefson@>>
wrote:
> >
> > I copied our live database to the Pilot database and then ran the
truncate function which appeared to run fine (no errors). I then used
ProBkUp to backup the Pilot database. I copied it to the new server 8.03.4xx
mfgsys database. When I try to use ProRest to restore it there I get the
following error:
> >
> > This backup of a 32-bit DBKEY database contains BI to TL data. It
> > cannot
be restored by the 64-bit DBKEY codebase (13732) Use the 10.1A prorest
utility to restore the database.
> >
> > The new server is server 2008 32-bit so I am not sure where the
> > 64-bit
reference is coming from. I thought I would be able to restore it there and
then run the schema change. What am I missing?
> >
> > From:
> > <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
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<mailto:van%0b>> > tage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Vantage] Re: Converting 8.03.305 to 8.03.4xx on New
> > Virtual Server
> >
> >
> >
> > For a test, I think I would stay away from the production database.
> > I always use a separate server to test upgrades & patches.
> > It should be easy to make a backup copy of the production db, then
truncate the copy.
> >
> > BTW... here is a ProgressTalk thread on truncating:
> > <http://www.progresstalk.com/showthread.php?114471-truncating-BI>
> > http://www.progresstalk.com/showthread.php?114471-truncating-BI
> >
> > --- In
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oogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40y
ahoogroups.com<http://ahoogroups.com>><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mai
lto:vantage%40yahoogrou
ps.com<http://ps.com>><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>, "Mark"
<mtellefson@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I am working on the intermediate step of coverting from 803.305 to
8.03.4xx before testing the new conversion tool to 9. In the instructions
the steps to convert the database are kinda confusing. It says I need to
truncate the bi (before image) before restoring it to the new server. My
concern is that it will damage the live database. Am I correct in this plan?
> > >
> > > run "proutil mfgsys -C truncate bi" on the existing server (do I
> > > need to stop all app servers?)
> > >
> > > Use ProBkUp to backup existing database
> > >
> > > Copy the backup file to the new server db directory
> > >
> > > Use ProRest to restore database on new server
> > >
> > > Launch client and run schema changes
> > >
> > > Any other thoughts or concerns? Thanks
> > >
> >
> > __________________________________________________________
> >
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Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>>http://groups.yahoo.com/group
/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages>http://groups.yahoo.com/grou
p/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo>http://groups.yahoo.com/gr
oup/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links

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for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential
and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or
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hereby notified that the copying, use or distribution of any information or
materials transmitted in or with this message is strictly prohibited.

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Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links



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