Even More BOM

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Bruce,

Insufficient data for a detailed answer.

What, exactly, are you trying to describe/accomplish with this BOM?

Normally, if you were going to weld two items together to make a third item
you would have a BOM such as:

Item-3 BOM
* Operation 10 - take from stock - Items 1 and 2
* Operation 20 - weld 2 item together
* Operation 30 - Inspect
* Operation 40 - put to stock

Or something equally inane.

If I wanted to assembly 50 items into an assembly ( not welding - just
assembling ) the BOM might be:
* Operation 10 - take 5 items from stock
* Operation 20 - assembly base frame
* Operation 30 - take 15 items from stock
* Operation 40 - assembly 15 items into motor bracket and mount on base
frame
* Operation 50 - take 15 more item from stock
* Operation 60 - assembly drive shaft, bolt to base frame and then attach
motor assembly
* Operation 70 .... etc etc

You would then link the materials / parts to the operations that require
them.

Why? Last company I worked for built textile machinery with some 3,000
items per machine. We had a BOM / routing for final machine assembly. In
some cases the machine assembly would take 6-8 weeks wherein week 1 was the
base, week 2 was the upper frame, week 3 was drive system, week 4 was
electrical, etc.

In that type of environment you didn't "Need" all of the components at the
start of assembly. You could schedule them to be completed as needed.

At any rate ... What exactly are you trying to accomplish?

Todd Anderson

-----Original Message-----
From: Ordway, Bruce [mailto:bruceo@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 4:02 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Even More BOM


I may be getting ahead of myself but..
I've created a BOM with about 50 material items.
Intuitively, I went to add an operation where I welded two of those items
together, say items 26 & 26.
When I added the weld operation though, all 50 material were listed under
that operation.
Makes me think I is doin' things in da wrong order.
Can I add an operation to a bill and specify which materials it applies to?
Or do I need to restructure my BOMs?

Thanks,
Bruce


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We use assemblies for this.

Make to separate parts, send to oss to be welded together. Inspect, when
approved, processes end for those numbers, and they become the parent part,
(or next part up the ladder.) Then the operations continue for the
new/parent part.

It's fun.
Rhonda
-----Original Message-----
From: Ordway, Bruce [mailto:bruceo@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 5:02 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Even More BOM


I may be getting ahead of myself but..
I've created a BOM with about 50 material items.
Intuitively, I went to add an operation where I welded two of those items
together, say items 26 & 26.
When I added the weld operation though, all 50 material were listed under
that operation.
Makes me think I is doin' things in da wrong order.
Can I add an operation to a bill and specify which materials it applies to?
Or do I need to restructure my BOMs?

Thanks,
Bruce


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When creating a BOM it is easier to add the operations first, then the
material. On each material entry screen, there is an "associated operation"
you can choose, and if you have your operations entered, you can just select
from a pull-down menu of the operations you created.

If you do not select a related operation, the tree view of the BOM shows all
of the materials under the first operation, but they will show as "related
operation = 0" on the job traveler.

Since you already have your materials entered, though, I would just create
the rest of your operations, then go back through each material line and
associate it to the operation that needs it.

(also, when deleting operations, if a material is linked to the operation
you are deleting, you have to unlink or delete the material first, or it
won't let you delete the operation)

Amy O'Malley
Manufacturing Engineer
Synovis Interventional Solutions
Lino Lakes, Minnesota
651-792-2816
aomalley@...

-----Original Message-----
From: Ordway, Bruce [mailto:bruceo@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 4:02 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Even More BOM


I may be getting ahead of myself but..
I've created a BOM with about 50 material items.
Intuitively, I went to add an operation where I welded two of those items
together, say items 26 & 26.
When I added the weld operation though, all 50 material were listed under
that operation.
Makes me think I is doin' things in da wrong order.
Can I add an operation to a bill and specify which materials it applies to?
Or do I need to restructure my BOMs?

Thanks,
Bruce


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I believe you can add specific materials to individual operations. I have
the system down right now so I can't tell you exactly how. I think you are
looking for a field called related operation. It has a pull down where you
link material and operations.

Mitchell Kirby
V. P. Manufacturing
Riten Industries, Inc.

740-333-8719 Direct
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ordway, Bruce [mailto:bruceo@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 5:02 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Even More BOM


I may be getting ahead of myself but..
I've created a BOM with about 50 material items.
Intuitively, I went to add an operation where I welded two of those items
together, say items 26 & 26.
When I added the weld operation though, all 50 material were listed under
that operation.
Makes me think I is doin' things in da wrong order.
Can I add an operation to a bill and specify which materials it applies to?
Or do I need to restructure my BOMs?

Thanks,
Bruce


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