From our quality department...
Thanks!
Rick Ludwig
-----Original Message-----
From: Monica Grant [mailto:monicag@...]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 10:39 AM
To: Rick Ludwig
Subject: FW: [Vantage] "Rework" Job Travelers/ISO compliance
Rick: Tried to send out response, did not work, If you could please send
out. Thanks, Monica
We create rework travelers in job entry with an "RW" at the front of the
job number. I also receive the rejected material/product through
Inspection Processing in the QA Module; you can receive directly to job
once entered. We have had no problems during audit and the jobs are
denoted RW for rework.
Monica Grant
Quality Manager
_____
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 2:01 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] "Rework" Job Travelers/ISO compliance
Rework to us generally means returned material. I've reworked the RMA
module to generate both corrective action pages (D8) and a Non
conforming
Material Report. The department doing the rework doesn't start until
the
NCMR is received and they follow the instructions. The return the NCMR
to
Quality so the returned material can be dispositioned. We've been
through a
pile of audits and that has never been an issue. (QS9000).
Shirley Graver
_____
From: Sherer, Rhonda [mailto:rhonda@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 1:47 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] "Rework" Job Travelers/ISO compliance
Our procedure requires only approved personnel to be permitted to make
changes to the routings, and for us this means engineering staff only.
We
also include a procedure with the material review, where the rework is
defined by the process engineer. Between the 2 we have not had any
problems
with audit findings in that area.
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Gilbert [mailto:todd@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 1:37 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] "Rework" Job Travelers/ISO compliance
On a recent Quality Audit, we were given a Nonconformance for not having
separate and unique "rework" job travelers that are distinct from our
normal templated job detail. I explained that the "Added Operation"
feature in Vantage serves to uniquely identify which operations were
added on top of the original template. Apparently that doesn't satisfy
the requirements for document control since the individual making the
changes has free reign over adding, deleting or modifying the detail.
Has anyone out there had to deal with this? I'm also curious to hear
anyone's thoughts as to whether this is truly a Document Control
Nonconformance or if the Added Operation feature should suffice.
Thanks,
Todd Gilbert
Altair Technologies, Inc.
5.10.132
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-----Original Message-----
From: Monica Grant [mailto:monicag@...]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 10:39 AM
To: Rick Ludwig
Subject: FW: [Vantage] "Rework" Job Travelers/ISO compliance
Rick: Tried to send out response, did not work, If you could please send
out. Thanks, Monica
We create rework travelers in job entry with an "RW" at the front of the
job number. I also receive the rejected material/product through
Inspection Processing in the QA Module; you can receive directly to job
once entered. We have had no problems during audit and the jobs are
denoted RW for rework.
Monica Grant
Quality Manager
_____
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 2:01 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] "Rework" Job Travelers/ISO compliance
Rework to us generally means returned material. I've reworked the RMA
module to generate both corrective action pages (D8) and a Non
conforming
Material Report. The department doing the rework doesn't start until
the
NCMR is received and they follow the instructions. The return the NCMR
to
Quality so the returned material can be dispositioned. We've been
through a
pile of audits and that has never been an issue. (QS9000).
Shirley Graver
_____
From: Sherer, Rhonda [mailto:rhonda@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 1:47 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] "Rework" Job Travelers/ISO compliance
Our procedure requires only approved personnel to be permitted to make
changes to the routings, and for us this means engineering staff only.
We
also include a procedure with the material review, where the rework is
defined by the process engineer. Between the 2 we have not had any
problems
with audit findings in that area.
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Gilbert [mailto:todd@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 1:37 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] "Rework" Job Travelers/ISO compliance
On a recent Quality Audit, we were given a Nonconformance for not having
separate and unique "rework" job travelers that are distinct from our
normal templated job detail. I explained that the "Added Operation"
feature in Vantage serves to uniquely identify which operations were
added on top of the original template. Apparently that doesn't satisfy
the requirements for document control since the individual making the
changes has free reign over adding, deleting or modifying the detail.
Has anyone out there had to deal with this? I'm also curious to hear
anyone's thoughts as to whether this is truly a Document Control
Nonconformance or if the Added Operation feature should suffice.
Thanks,
Todd Gilbert
Altair Technologies, Inc.
5.10.132
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