FW: "Un-completing" an operation for a job

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Thanks to Chris Hansen for this fix. I tested it today, and ran before and
after reports. I don't see any pit falls. It's great!

I am annoyed that such a fix was not publicized by Epicor. They've known we
users have been struggling with this for years. Remember, I'm the one that
was only able to offer work arounds....

We are still on 4.0, I hope it still works for 5.0! (I haven't tested
there yet.)

Rhonda S. Sherer, Purchasing Agent
Reeder & Kline Machine Co., Inc



-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Hansen [mailto:chansen@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 9:21 AM
To: kauspland@...
Subject: FW: [Vantage] "Un-completing" an operation for a job
Importance: High


This has been a problem for us a few times - I really needed to find an
answer on this the last time it happened, so I had called Epicor. Below
is what I was told to do, and it did work for opening our subcontract
operation back up. It just wasn't what I had expected them to tell me to
do.

Go into shipping/receiving and enter a receipt for that subcontract vendor.
Click on add a miscellaneous receipt for job subcontract. Select your
job. In the operation box, if you click on the drop down box it will not
offer you the choice of choosing your operation, but, if you type it in
that box, it will prompt you saying that the operation has been closed. It
will ask you if you really want to reopen it, say yes, and click off the
check mark in the issued complete box. Complete the receipt, and then go
back in and delete the receipt. The receipt will be gone, but it will
leave the operation open.

Hope this helps you like it did for us!
Chris Hansen
Controller - Herker Industries, Inc.



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This has been a problem for us a few times - I really needed to find an
answer on this the last time it happened, so I had called Epicor. Below
is what I was told to do, and it did work for opening our subcontract
operation back up. It just wasn't what I had expected them to tell me to
do.

Go into shipping/receiving and enter a receipt for that subcontract vendor.
Click on add a miscellaneous receipt for job subcontract. Select your
job. In the operation box, if you click on the drop down box it will not
offer you the choice of choosing your operation, but, if you type it in
that box, it will prompt you saying that the operation has been closed. It
will ask you if you really want to reopen it, say yes, and click off the
check mark in the issued complete box. Complete the receipt, and then go
back in and delete the receipt. The receipt will be gone, but it will
leave the operation open.

Hope this helps you like it did for us!
Chris Hansen
Controller - Herker Industries, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Auspland [SMTP:kauspland@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 1:39 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] "Un-completing" an operation for a job
Importance: High

Thanks Warren,
That was the first thing we tried. However, this is not a Labor entry. It
is accomplished when the P.O. is made for the plating process, and my
shipper ships the parts to plater in Vantage.
Keith O. Auspland
Production Coordinator
Lovejoy Chaplet Corporation
12 River Street, P.O. Box 66
Hoosick falls, NY 12090
PHONE (802) 686-5232
FAX (802) 686-4919
Kauspland@...
-----Original Message-----
From: Eddy, Warren [mailto:warren.eddy@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 7:17 AM
To: kauspland@...
Subject: RE: [Vantage] "Un-completing" an operation for a job


When we have this happen we locate (in Job Tracker) the "operator" or
employee that entered labor with "job complete". We remove the complete
status in labor entry.

Hope this helps.

Warren R. Eddy
Information Services Manager
National Tube Form, LLC
Phone: (219) 478-2363 ext 217
Fax: (219) 478-1043
Warren.Eddy@...

-----Original Message-----
From: kauspland@... [mailto:kauspland@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 9:10 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] "Un-completing" an operation for a job

Hello All.
I have a job set up in Vantage, with the following operations:
Op 10 = set-up process
Op 20 = manufacturing process
Op 30 = Inspection Process
Op 40 = Sub-contractor plating process
Op 50 = Final Inspection Process prior to shipment to customer
Now, I have a job set up for 10,000 pcs. 5,000 pcs were shipped last
week to our subcontractor. Now my shippind department wants to ship
the balance to our plater, but on that specific job, Operation 40
shows as complete. I have tried to no avail to "un-complete" this
operation. When I try to generate a P.O. for my plater and refer to
this specific job, there is nothing left to "pull" from Operation 40,
and op 40 shows as complete.
I have tried numerous different strategies to "un-complete" Op 40,
but all to no avail.... As an "end-around," I generated a new job for
the remaining 5,000 pcs, created the P.O., shipped the parts, then
immediately closed the job. This is not the correct way to
accomplish this, but I HAD to ship parts...
Anyone with any assistance, it would be GREATLY appreciated...

Thanks In Advance
Keith



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Chris,
It worked! Thanks so much for the help!

Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Hansen [mailto:chansen@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 9:21 AM
To: kauspland@...
Subject: FW: [Vantage] "Un-completing" an operation for a job
Importance: High


This has been a problem for us a few times - I really needed to find an
answer on this the last time it happened, so I had called Epicor. Below
is what I was told to do, and it did work for opening our subcontract
operation back up. It just wasn't what I had expected them to tell me to
do.

Go into shipping/receiving and enter a receipt for that subcontract vendor.
Click on add a miscellaneous receipt for job subcontract. Select your
job. In the operation box, if you click on the drop down box it will not
offer you the choice of choosing your operation, but, if you type it in
that box, it will prompt you saying that the operation has been closed. It
will ask you if you really want to reopen it, say yes, and click off the
check mark in the issued complete box. Complete the receipt, and then go
back in and delete the receipt. The receipt will be gone, but it will
leave the operation open.

Hope this helps you like it did for us!
Chris Hansen
Controller - Herker Industries, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Auspland [SMTP:kauspland@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 1:39 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] "Un-completing" an operation for a job
Importance: High

Thanks Warren,
That was the first thing we tried. However, this is not a Labor entry. It
is accomplished when the P.O. is made for the plating process, and my
shipper ships the parts to plater in Vantage.
Keith O. Auspland
Production Coordinator
Lovejoy Chaplet Corporation
12 River Street, P.O. Box 66
Hoosick falls, NY 12090
PHONE (802) 686-5232
FAX (802) 686-4919
Kauspland@...
-----Original Message-----
From: Eddy, Warren [mailto:warren.eddy@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 7:17 AM
To: kauspland@...
Subject: RE: [Vantage] "Un-completing" an operation for a job


When we have this happen we locate (in Job Tracker) the "operator" or
employee that entered labor with "job complete". We remove the complete
status in labor entry.

Hope this helps.

Warren R. Eddy
Information Services Manager
National Tube Form, LLC
Phone: (219) 478-2363 ext 217
Fax: (219) 478-1043
Warren.Eddy@...

-----Original Message-----
From: kauspland@... [mailto:kauspland@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 9:10 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] "Un-completing" an operation for a job

Hello All.
I have a job set up in Vantage, with the following operations:
Op 10 = set-up process
Op 20 = manufacturing process
Op 30 = Inspection Process
Op 40 = Sub-contractor plating process
Op 50 = Final Inspection Process prior to shipment to customer
Now, I have a job set up for 10,000 pcs. 5,000 pcs were shipped last
week to our subcontractor. Now my shippind department wants to ship
the balance to our plater, but on that specific job, Operation 40
shows as complete. I have tried to no avail to "un-complete" this
operation. When I try to generate a P.O. for my plater and refer to
this specific job, there is nothing left to "pull" from Operation 40,
and op 40 shows as complete.
I have tried numerous different strategies to "un-complete" Op 40,
but all to no avail.... As an "end-around," I generated a new job for
the remaining 5,000 pcs, created the P.O., shipped the parts, then
immediately closed the job. This is not the correct way to
accomplish this, but I HAD to ship parts...
Anyone with any assistance, it would be GREATLY appreciated...

Thanks In Advance
Keith



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Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
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Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
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already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
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Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
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At 12:20 PM 8/28/2001 , Chris Hansen wrote:
>.....called Epicor. Below is what I was told to do, and it did work for
>opening our subcontract operation back up.

Hi Chris,

I had a few people here very enthused when I asked if they had any need for
your trick to reopen a job subcontract operation. But I tried it out, and
it doesn't seem to work here. Maybe it only works with certain versions of
Vantage? We're running 4.00.904. Anyone else had luck with this on 4?

-Thanks,
Wayne Cox
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I just spoke to Vantage support today concerning this issue. I also, need
to uncomplete at subcontract sequence and supports suggestion did not work.
Support referenced ID782MPS and 724277MPS on the suggestion that was emailed
to me. We are on Vantage 4.00.904. I missed the suggestion (trick) to open
a subcontract seq, which was posted on yahoogroups. Please post it on email
again or send it directly to me. This would be greatly appreciated! Thanks
for everyone's help!!

Kimberly Maxwell
Office Manager
Westwood Precision, Inc.
Ph: 425-347-1303 Ext. 41
Fax: 425-353-8945
Email: kimberly.maxwell@...
www.westwoodprecision.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Cox [mailto:wmc@...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:01 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Cc: chansen@...
Subject: [Vantage] "Un-completing" an operation for a job


At 12:20 PM 8/28/2001 , Chris Hansen wrote:
>.....called Epicor. Below is what I was told to do, and it did work for
>opening our subcontract operation back up.

Hi Chris,

I had a few people here very enthused when I asked if they had any need for
your trick to reopen a job subcontract operation. But I tried it out, and
it doesn't seem to work here. Maybe it only works with certain versions of
Vantage? We're running 4.00.904. Anyone else had luck with this on 4?

-Thanks,
Wayne Cox




Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
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6
Kimberly,
Here is what worked for me, let me know how you make out and good luck!
While it is not an elegant solution you could do the following:

1. Create a miscellaneous subcontract receipt to that specific operation
with a qty of 0.01 and a cost of $0.00.
2. Uncheck the received complete box.

This will reopen the subcontract operation. If needed, you can always do a
job adjustment to adjust the .01 that you used in the misc receipt. You
cannot do a misc receipt for -0.01 to back it out.
Keith :-)


Keith O. Auspland
Production Coordinator
Lovejoy Chaplet Corporation
12 River Street, P.O. Box 66
Hoosick falls, NY 12090
PHONE (802) 686-5232
FAX (802) 686-4919
Kauspland@...

-----Original Message-----
From: Kimberly Maxwell [mailto:kimberly.maxwell@...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 3:28 PM
To: kauspland@...
Subject: RE: [Vantage] "Un-completing" an operation for a job


I just spoke to Vantage support today concerning this issue. I also, need
to uncomplete at subcontract sequence and supports suggestion did not work.
Support referenced ID782MPS and 724277MPS on the suggestion that was emailed
to me. We are on Vantage 4.00.904. I missed the suggestion (trick) to open
a subcontract seq, which was posted on yahoogroups. Please post it on email
again or send it directly to me. This would be greatly appreciated! Thanks
for everyone's help!!

Kimberly Maxwell
Office Manager
Westwood Precision, Inc.
Ph: 425-347-1303 Ext. 41
Fax: 425-353-8945
Email: kimberly.maxwell@...
www.westwoodprecision.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Cox [mailto:wmc@...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:01 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Cc: chansen@...
Subject: [Vantage] "Un-completing" an operation for a job


At 12:20 PM 8/28/2001 , Chris Hansen wrote:
>.....called Epicor. Below is what I was told to do, and it did work for
>opening our subcontract operation back up.

Hi Chris,

I had a few people here very enthused when I asked if they had any need for
your trick to reopen a job subcontract operation. But I tried it out, and
it doesn't seem to work here. Maybe it only works with certain versions of
Vantage? We're running 4.00.904. Anyone else had luck with this on 4?

-Thanks,
Wayne Cox




Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/




Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
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