Hold part from mfg

The firm release looks like it only stops the picking process from happening at a release level VS the order level and sets a flag to be shown in reports. Simply all we need is a hold checkbox that stops/removes a demand link from being created for that part.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "cooner_55421" <cooner_55421@...> wrote:
>
> Have you tried the settings on the release tab?
> I think unchecking "firm release" might do what you are looking for.
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "jgiese1988" <jgiese@> wrote:
> >
> > I will answer each paragraph separately:
> >
> > That is exactly it. PO comes it we want to start the chain, but before all of the custom art and such is settled we do not want it to go to MFG
> >
> > I guess I could make a BPM for that. Not sure how to go about it. We really just need the orderHeld checkbox to stop MRP from creating the job or letting someone create it manually. These will all be Make Direct jobs.
> >
> > Customer service decides when the job is ready to be created at the time that any of the 'customer related decisions' are finalized.
> >
> > We actually would not need to stop purchasing from obtaining material as we have some hefty lead times on obtaining paper it needs to be ordered at almost the same time the PO is entered into SO Entry.
> >
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "c.krusen1" <ckrusen1@> wrote:
> > >
> > > So in a nut shell...
> > >
> > > You accept an PO from a customer and enter an Order. The Order contains a manufactured part, that you don't want to actually manufacture until "someone" inside says it's OK to.
> > >
> > > Could you make a BPM that prevented jobs from being created for orders that are on hold?
> > >
> > > And who eventually decides (and why) that it's OK to engineer and manufacture the item?
> > >
> > > Do you need to prevent Purchasing from ordering material for the eventual Job that would be created?
> > >
> > > Calvin
> > >
> > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "jgiese1988" <jgiese@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The problem with that would be our customer service department would then be creating jobs would they not?
> > > >
> > > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Len Hartka" <len.hartka@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Good Day jgeise:
> > > > >
> > > > > If you Open the Job but do not shcedule it, it then lists at the
> > > > > bottom of the Time-Phase-Iquiry screen without a Due-Date".
> > > > >
> > > > > I THINK, it also cuases MRP to not plan its parts, but I am not sure
> > > > > of that.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sun is on 9.05.601B SQL-Unidata since 11/29/10
> > > > > Testing 9.05.605 Scheduled about 8/13/11
> > > > > Sun was previously on M2K (Manage-2000) 7.0 SP 5 (Informix)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > len.hartka@
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> > > > > Of jgiese1988
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 4:31 PM
> > > > > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Subject: [Vantage] Hold part from mfg
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > We create a lot of custom products and are looking for an effective way
> > > > > to hold parts custom parts from being manufactured while yet being able
> > > > > to attach them to an order. We can put an order on hold and that stops a
> > > > > part from shipping but would not stop production from engineering it and
> > > > > producing it before it is ready. We can put the part on hold at the item
> > > > > master but then cannot attach it to a sales order. Any thoughts on how
> > > > > we might be able to put an order on full hold from releasing to any
> > > > > other area?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > This e-mail and any attachments may contain proprietary and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail or at 410-472-2900 and then delete the message without using, disseminating, or copying this message or any portion thereof. With e-mail communications you are urged to protect against viruses.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
We create a lot of custom products and are looking for an effective way to hold parts custom parts from being manufactured while yet being able to attach them to an order. We can put an order on hold and that stops a part from shipping but would not stop production from engineering it and producing it before it is ready. We can put the part on hold at the item master but then cannot attach it to a sales order. Any thoughts on how we might be able to put an order on full hold from releasing to any other area?
Good Day jgeise:

If you Open the Job but do not shcedule it, it then lists at the
bottom of the Time-Phase-Iquiry screen without a Due-Date".

I THINK, it also cuases MRP to not plan its parts, but I am not sure
of that.

Sun is on 9.05.601B SQL-Unidata since 11/29/10
Testing 9.05.605 Scheduled about 8/13/11
Sun was previously on M2K (Manage-2000) 7.0 SP 5 (Informix)



len.hartka@...

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of jgiese1988
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 4:31 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Hold part from mfg




We create a lot of custom products and are looking for an effective way
to hold parts custom parts from being manufactured while yet being able
to attach them to an order. We can put an order on hold and that stops a
part from shipping but would not stop production from engineering it and
producing it before it is ready. We can put the part on hold at the item
master but then cannot attach it to a sales order. Any thoughts on how
we might be able to put an order on full hold from releasing to any
other area?






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The problem with that would be our customer service department would then be creating jobs would they not?

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Len Hartka" <len.hartka@...> wrote:
>
> Good Day jgeise:
>
> If you Open the Job but do not shcedule it, it then lists at the
> bottom of the Time-Phase-Iquiry screen without a Due-Date".
>
> I THINK, it also cuases MRP to not plan its parts, but I am not sure
> of that.
>
> Sun is on 9.05.601B SQL-Unidata since 11/29/10
> Testing 9.05.605 Scheduled about 8/13/11
> Sun was previously on M2K (Manage-2000) 7.0 SP 5 (Informix)
>
>
>
> len.hartka@...
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of jgiese1988
> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 4:31 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Hold part from mfg
>
>
>
>
> We create a lot of custom products and are looking for an effective way
> to hold parts custom parts from being manufactured while yet being able
> to attach them to an order. We can put an order on hold and that stops a
> part from shipping but would not stop production from engineering it and
> producing it before it is ready. We can put the part on hold at the item
> master but then cannot attach it to a sales order. Any thoughts on how
> we might be able to put an order on full hold from releasing to any
> other area?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> This e-mail and any attachments may contain proprietary and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail or at 410-472-2900 and then delete the message without using, disseminating, or copying this message or any portion thereof. With e-mail communications you are urged to protect against viruses.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
So in a nut shell...

You accept an PO from a customer and enter an Order. The Order contains a manufactured part, that you don't want to actually manufacture until "someone" inside says it's OK to.

Could you make a BPM that prevented jobs from being created for orders that are on hold?

And who eventually decides (and why) that it's OK to engineer and manufacture the item?

Do you need to prevent Purchasing from ordering material for the eventual Job that would be created?

Calvin

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "jgiese1988" <jgiese@...> wrote:
>
> The problem with that would be our customer service department would then be creating jobs would they not?
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Len Hartka" <len.hartka@> wrote:
> >
> > Good Day jgeise:
> >
> > If you Open the Job but do not shcedule it, it then lists at the
> > bottom of the Time-Phase-Iquiry screen without a Due-Date".
> >
> > I THINK, it also cuases MRP to not plan its parts, but I am not sure
> > of that.
> >
> > Sun is on 9.05.601B SQL-Unidata since 11/29/10
> > Testing 9.05.605 Scheduled about 8/13/11
> > Sun was previously on M2K (Manage-2000) 7.0 SP 5 (Informix)
> >
> >
> >
> > len.hartka@
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> > Of jgiese1988
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 4:31 PM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Vantage] Hold part from mfg
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > We create a lot of custom products and are looking for an effective way
> > to hold parts custom parts from being manufactured while yet being able
> > to attach them to an order. We can put an order on hold and that stops a
> > part from shipping but would not stop production from engineering it and
> > producing it before it is ready. We can put the part on hold at the item
> > master but then cannot attach it to a sales order. Any thoughts on how
> > we might be able to put an order on full hold from releasing to any
> > other area?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > This e-mail and any attachments may contain proprietary and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail or at 410-472-2900 and then delete the message without using, disseminating, or copying this message or any portion thereof. With e-mail communications you are urged to protect against viruses.
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
I will answer each paragraph separately:

That is exactly it. PO comes it we want to start the chain, but before all of the custom art and such is settled we do not want it to go to MFG

I guess I could make a BPM for that. Not sure how to go about it. We really just need the orderHeld checkbox to stop MRP from creating the job or letting someone create it manually. These will all be Make Direct jobs.

Customer service decides when the job is ready to be created at the time that any of the 'customer related decisions' are finalized.

We actually would not need to stop purchasing from obtaining material as we have some hefty lead times on obtaining paper it needs to be ordered at almost the same time the PO is entered into SO Entry.


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "c.krusen1" <ckrusen1@...> wrote:
>
> So in a nut shell...
>
> You accept an PO from a customer and enter an Order. The Order contains a manufactured part, that you don't want to actually manufacture until "someone" inside says it's OK to.
>
> Could you make a BPM that prevented jobs from being created for orders that are on hold?
>
> And who eventually decides (and why) that it's OK to engineer and manufacture the item?
>
> Do you need to prevent Purchasing from ordering material for the eventual Job that would be created?
>
> Calvin
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "jgiese1988" <jgiese@> wrote:
> >
> > The problem with that would be our customer service department would then be creating jobs would they not?
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Len Hartka" <len.hartka@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Good Day jgeise:
> > >
> > > If you Open the Job but do not shcedule it, it then lists at the
> > > bottom of the Time-Phase-Iquiry screen without a Due-Date".
> > >
> > > I THINK, it also cuases MRP to not plan its parts, but I am not sure
> > > of that.
> > >
> > > Sun is on 9.05.601B SQL-Unidata since 11/29/10
> > > Testing 9.05.605 Scheduled about 8/13/11
> > > Sun was previously on M2K (Manage-2000) 7.0 SP 5 (Informix)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > len.hartka@
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> > > Of jgiese1988
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 4:31 PM
> > > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [Vantage] Hold part from mfg
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > We create a lot of custom products and are looking for an effective way
> > > to hold parts custom parts from being manufactured while yet being able
> > > to attach them to an order. We can put an order on hold and that stops a
> > > part from shipping but would not stop production from engineering it and
> > > producing it before it is ready. We can put the part on hold at the item
> > > master but then cannot attach it to a sales order. Any thoughts on how
> > > we might be able to put an order on full hold from releasing to any
> > > other area?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This e-mail and any attachments may contain proprietary and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail or at 410-472-2900 and then delete the message without using, disseminating, or copying this message or any portion thereof. With e-mail communications you are urged to protect against viruses.
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>
Good Day jgeise:

First, please supply your name. It is incorrect protocal to use a
persons email name. Plus, my spell checker wants me to change "jgeise"
to "geese".

I am not sure of what you mean by "service job". In E9, and I think
V8, sending people into the field is a whole module separate from a
Job\Sales-Order to make\ship an assembly.

You just need a Job to create the Sales-Order line. If not scheduled
( or, maybe, if not 'Released"), it will not create demand for Labor
either internal or external; so, what harm is creating the job.

We do not use it that way, so it may be that not releasing the Job
is the important part vs. not Scheduling the Job; or it all depends on
the situation.



len.hartka@...

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of jgiese1988
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 8:26 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Hold part from mfg




The problem with that would be our customer service department would
then be creating jobs would they not?

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Len
Hartka" <len.hartka@...> wrote:
>
> Good Day jgeise:
>
> If you Open the Job but do not shcedule it, it then lists at the
> bottom of the Time-Phase-Iquiry screen without a Due-Date".
>
> I THINK, it also cuases MRP to not plan its parts, but I am not sure
> of that.
>
> Sun is on 9.05.601B SQL-Unidata since 11/29/10
> Testing 9.05.605 Scheduled about 8/13/11
> Sun was previously on M2K (Manage-2000) 7.0 SP 5 (Informix)
>
>
>
> len.hartka@...
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
> Of jgiese1988
> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 4:31 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] Hold part from mfg
>
>
>
>
> We create a lot of custom products and are looking for an effective
way
> to hold parts custom parts from being manufactured while yet being
able
> to attach them to an order. We can put an order on hold and that stops
a
> part from shipping but would not stop production from engineering it
and
> producing it before it is ready. We can put the part on hold at the
item
> master but then cannot attach it to a sales order. Any thoughts on how
> we might be able to put an order on full hold from releasing to any
> other area?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> This e-mail and any attachments may contain proprietary and/or
confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please
notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail or at 410-472-2900 and
then delete the message without using, disseminating, or copying this
message or any portion thereof. With e-mail communications you are urged
to protect against viruses.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>






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Have you tried the settings on the release tab?
I think unchecking "firm release" might do what you are looking for.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "jgiese1988" <jgiese@...> wrote:
>
> I will answer each paragraph separately:
>
> That is exactly it. PO comes it we want to start the chain, but before all of the custom art and such is settled we do not want it to go to MFG
>
> I guess I could make a BPM for that. Not sure how to go about it. We really just need the orderHeld checkbox to stop MRP from creating the job or letting someone create it manually. These will all be Make Direct jobs.
>
> Customer service decides when the job is ready to be created at the time that any of the 'customer related decisions' are finalized.
>
> We actually would not need to stop purchasing from obtaining material as we have some hefty lead times on obtaining paper it needs to be ordered at almost the same time the PO is entered into SO Entry.
>
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "c.krusen1" <ckrusen1@> wrote:
> >
> > So in a nut shell...
> >
> > You accept an PO from a customer and enter an Order. The Order contains a manufactured part, that you don't want to actually manufacture until "someone" inside says it's OK to.
> >
> > Could you make a BPM that prevented jobs from being created for orders that are on hold?
> >
> > And who eventually decides (and why) that it's OK to engineer and manufacture the item?
> >
> > Do you need to prevent Purchasing from ordering material for the eventual Job that would be created?
> >
> > Calvin
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "jgiese1988" <jgiese@> wrote:
> > >
> > > The problem with that would be our customer service department would then be creating jobs would they not?
> > >
> > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Len Hartka" <len.hartka@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Good Day jgeise:
> > > >
> > > > If you Open the Job but do not shcedule it, it then lists at the
> > > > bottom of the Time-Phase-Iquiry screen without a Due-Date".
> > > >
> > > > I THINK, it also cuases MRP to not plan its parts, but I am not sure
> > > > of that.
> > > >
> > > > Sun is on 9.05.601B SQL-Unidata since 11/29/10
> > > > Testing 9.05.605 Scheduled about 8/13/11
> > > > Sun was previously on M2K (Manage-2000) 7.0 SP 5 (Informix)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > len.hartka@
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > >
> > > > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> > > > Of jgiese1988
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 4:31 PM
> > > > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [Vantage] Hold part from mfg
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We create a lot of custom products and are looking for an effective way
> > > > to hold parts custom parts from being manufactured while yet being able
> > > > to attach them to an order. We can put an order on hold and that stops a
> > > > part from shipping but would not stop production from engineering it and
> > > > producing it before it is ready. We can put the part on hold at the item
> > > > master but then cannot attach it to a sales order. Any thoughts on how
> > > > we might be able to put an order on full hold from releasing to any
> > > > other area?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This e-mail and any attachments may contain proprietary and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail or at 410-472-2900 and then delete the message without using, disseminating, or copying this message or any portion thereof. With e-mail communications you are urged to protect against viruses.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Unengineer it (perhaps after locking the schedule) - or just unrelease it so no activity can be reported (and then it will at least still be in your schedules but effectively on hold).


From: cooner_55421 <cooner_55421@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 11:37 AM
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Hold part from mfg


Â
Have you tried the settings on the release tab?
I think unchecking "firm release" might do what you are looking for.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "jgiese1988" <jgiese@...> wrote:
>
> I will answer each paragraph separately:
>
> That is exactly it. PO comes it we want to start the chain, but before all of the custom art and such is settled we do not want it to go to MFG
>
> I guess I could make a BPM for that. Not sure how to go about it. We really just need the orderHeld checkbox to stop MRP from creating the job or letting someone create it manually. These will all be Make Direct jobs.
>
> Customer service decides when the job is ready to be created at the time that any of the 'customer related decisions' are finalized.
>
> We actually would not need to stop purchasing from obtaining material as we have some hefty lead times on obtaining paper it needs to be ordered at almost the same time the PO is entered into SO Entry.
>
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "c.krusen1" <ckrusen1@> wrote:
> >
> > So in a nut shell...
> >
> > You accept an PO from a customer and enter an Order. The Order contains a manufactured part, that you don't want to actually manufacture until "someone" inside says it's OK to.
> >
> > Could you make a BPM that prevented jobs from being created for orders that are on hold?
> >
> > And who eventually decides (and why) that it's OK to engineer and manufacture the item?
> >
> > Do you need to prevent Purchasing from ordering material for the eventual Job that would be created?
> >
> > Calvin
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "jgiese1988" <jgiese@> wrote:
> > >
> > > The problem with that would be our customer service department would then be creating jobs would they not?
> > >
> > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Len Hartka" <len.hartka@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Good Day jgeise:
> > > >
> > > > If you Open the Job but do not shcedule it, it then lists at the
> > > > bottom of the Time-Phase-Iquiry screen without a Due-Date".
> > > >
> > > > I THINK, it also cuases MRP to not plan its parts, but I am not sure
> > > > of that.
> > > >
> > > > Sun is on 9.05.601B SQL-Unidata since 11/29/10
> > > > Testing 9.05.605 Scheduled about 8/13/11
> > > > Sun was previously on M2K (Manage-2000) 7.0 SP 5 (Informix)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > len.hartka@
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > >
> > > > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> > > > Of jgiese1988
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 4:31 PM
> > > > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [Vantage] Hold part from mfg
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We create a lot of custom products and are looking for an effective way
> > > > to hold parts custom parts from being manufactured while yet being able
> > > > to attach them to an order. We can put an order on hold and that stops a
> > > > part from shipping but would not stop production from engineering it and
> > > > producing it before it is ready. We can put the part on hold at the item
> > > > master but then cannot attach it to a sales order. Any thoughts on how
> > > > we might be able to put an order on full hold from releasing to any
> > > > other area?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This e-mail and any attachments may contain proprietary and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail or at 410-472-2900 and then delete the message without using, disseminating, or copying this message or any portion thereof. With e-mail communications you are urged to protect against viruses.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> >
>




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