🌃 Jose and Kerrie Gogh Online and Discuss On-Prem and Building Blocks

Or, they could go the other way with it and package it as a stack, with all the various servers as containers. (App, SSRS, SQL, etc.)

Then you could override components of it to point to outside hosts if desired.

You know, if they wanted to be nice.

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They are currently using Azure Kubernetes Service (AKS). I’d say there is a good chance it would be based on AKS. But it’s all just speculation at this point.

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Yep. And Epicor has been fairly public about leveraging containers and moving in that direction for Cloud for a while now too. And it’s been possible to setup our own (unsupported) for a while now too.

They can be architected in lots of different ways but ultimately the most important aspect to containerize is generally all of the application services and functions, which often can then connect to a pre-defined database.

Or have all of the services within the same container, and configuration options for which are enabled/running within the container scope so one could configure the containers similar to how application servers often are today (i.e. 3 application servers, first two for users, third for the task agent and other services).

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what! I’ve been trying for ages to sort that, I’d be interested to know how.

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Yeah, I haven’t myself, but it has been done - at least just for the primary .Net CORE application services.

Without all of the related services, support, or proper configuration and administrative tools being done properly, there’s not really much point or value, though. For proper actually valuable on-premise deployable containers to make sense, a lot more work and effort would be required. With some commitment and investment, I imagine that Epicor could develop and release a pretty amazing solution if they want to.

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I have the reverse. I have sql linux working, EDD is a no go on Linux sql due to named pipes unless that was fixed snd SSRS has to be separate… But it’s the app server I really wanted to get working… According to documentation you are supposed to be able to remotely admin with the EAC, or CLI but I have not been able to get that working

Off topic folks sorry.

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She made it sound like Prism is ready for prime time. At Insights I would love to test Prism, unscripted, fully and document all its failures, and successes. According to Kerrie Prism might just be better than Gemini and Claude combined. Looking forward it handling real enterprise token sizes and not spit out small responses.

It should be able to build a BAQ, Dashboard atleast, with CTEs, PIVOT. Perhaps a Recursive PartMtl / ECOMtl query, be able to use a Sub-Select to pull the latest approved Revision (sorted by Effective Date). Make a TimePhase BAQ, and provide real information like Jobs with most scrap sorted by Top 10 Customers etc… (Would have to of course DMT in some sample data).

Im not pointing a finger, just curious since she tried to sell the AI with full faith, is it ready, as promising as she said it is? or was it more of a future phase statement (like by 2030, it should be very good) I keep hearing yes from many, and no from many.

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You know, I am just now parsing the new title correctly; I thought you had just horrible grammar… but I know better. “Gogh” is in place of the word “go” and not Kerrie’s last name. (Random, there’s a local pizza place named Vinnie Van Go-Go’s.)

And I am guessing “building blocks” is intended with a double meaning. Touché, sir, touché.

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that would be a @Mark_Wonsil dad joke.

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Not to mention man, your org needs to have good data in order for it to give good answers.

The thing I can see it helping with is prompting it to do something for you, so you don’t have to do the mouse clicks. “create an order for customer xyz, with these parts paste in a grid of parts and quantities”. We can all type that out faster than it takes to enter it all… so for AI to do those things makes sense to me.

The data portion of it is very tricky, with governance and transparency around the data itself… to ask it, perform an analysis on part X vs part Y, which one is most profitable? If your data collection is trash, the answer is going to be trash. How many of us have people in our org that have more trust in what they say the answer is than the data that comes out of the system?

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I agree, I was going to DMT in some very simple things.

But I can also focus on BAQ, Dashboard creation it is the first demo they showed, it should be fully functioning now by year 3, if anything the AI knows the Epicor Schema like the back of its pocket, they should be performant, accurate and fast…

Like a Sales Gross Margin Dashboard that honors Sales Kits etc…

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Does it honor sales kits?

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Long story :smiley: but often missed by Epicor SGM BAQs, lets just say I spent 3 months in the SGM BAQ solving for Exchange Rates and everything under the sun.

But AI should be able to take me to new heights in minutes, not months.

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I recall you helping me with SGM at one point in my career, so I recall that you were deep in it, but I just didn’t recall reading anything about sales kits being nuanced on the SGM report.

I’m here for the long stories, so if you’d like to share I’m listening. We are getting into sales kits a little bit and didn’t know if there was something we should watch out for.

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Yeah ~3 years ago I found out that my SGM was calculating Sales Kits wrong, depending if you have the Parent or Children flag on somewhere. I have since a fixed SGM BAQ.

Didnt go well when the Publicly Traded Company reported bad numbers to the SEC… Thats why your BAQs must be very good, if you are publicly traded :slight_smile: only a million off

That is why AI has a big responsibility of accuracy. Our database is ~1TB and TranGLC, PartTran are massive, alot of information to crunch.

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That’s what I’m saying Haso… maybe the rest of the user base has time and expense entry nailed and their numbers are rock solid, they don’t take shortcuts that result in journal entries being made to sales accounts or cost accounts, etc. everything is right where it needs to be and fully transparent to the AI. None of them use quantity adjustment for anything and if they do, the cost is perfectly allocated to the right GL/job so that AI can give me the correct answer on whether part x is more profitable than part Y.

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Who is Kerrie Gogh? Took me a whole day, Jose! Hat tip!

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Kerrie’s Marketing Team published this on September 26, 2025.

What Makes Epicor Different?

Unlike generic finance tools or rigid legacy platforms, Epicor Financials is purpose-built for companies that manufacture, distribute, or build things. Here’s why that matters:

  • Industry-Specific Design: Epicor understands the unique financial dynamics of vertical industries. This ensures faster implementation and better alignment with your business model.
  • Unified Architecture: All modules are part of the Epicor ecosystem, reducing integration headaches and enabling smooth data flow across finance, operations, and supply chain.
  • Cloud-First, Not Cloud-Only: Choose your deployment strategy—public cloud, private cloud, or on-premises—based on your needs and timelines.
  • Scalable and Configurable: Whether you’re scaling up or entering new markets, Epicor grows with you, providing the flexibility to adapt without a complete overhaul.
  • Security and Compliance: Built-in controls and robust audit trails help mitigate risk, meet regulatory demands, and protect financial data in an increasingly volatile cybersecurity landscape.

If Epicor stopped selling On-Prem licenses long before that, this blog post sounds like complete Bait.

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My dude it’s time to move forward. Dwelling on what was said is just going to further upset you / others.

They’ve given us 4 years to figure out hopefully a solution that can work. Why wasn’t this solution in place before the announcement… that’s a good question

But still 4 years to get all this figured out and or plan to move elsewhere. 4 years from the time this article was published.

I don’t think any amount of time would have made us happy haha!

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I don’t have a dog in this fight so I don’t have much to say about the situation as a whole, although I have been following the threads closely.

One thing that has resonated with me is the notion of the erosion of trust based on how statements made in the past look in the light of the new announcement. Holding people accountable for statements and decisions they have made in the past is a worthwhile endeavor.

While “it was a different time” is the standard defense for shifted roadmaps, using it here feels like a reach. We aren’t talking about statements from five years ago. We are talking about a CEO’s keynote at Insights 2024 and a marketing blog from September 2025 that explicitly touted “Cloud-First, Not Cloud-Only.”

To go from “Choose your deployment… on-premises” in late September to a total development sunset in early January—barely 100 days later—suggests a massive disconnect.

I agree that demanding a “confession” won’t bring catharsis, but a candid response addressing how these statements aged so poorly would be a start. Because even if we assume they weren’t “lying,” the alternative isn’t much better: it means leadership made definitive, far-reaching promises while having no idea where the ship was actually headed three months later.

Neither option gives anyone a warm fuzzy, but one is a breach of ethics and the other is a breach of foresight. Both are valid reasons for the community to feel the way they do.

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