I agree :)
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Sanders [mailto:ssanders@...]
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 8:24 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Offtopic - MS Documentation [Moderator]
C'mon, folks. Most of you should know better by now!
If you have something to share with the group - <<<<< post it in the Files
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the files section <<<<< or contact them off-list >>>>>.
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======================
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Vantage List Moderator
-----Original Message-----
From: Erica Steffens [mailto:ESteffens@...]
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 7:16 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Offtopic - MS Documentation
Jim,
Could you email that to me also?
Erica A. Steffens
System Administrator
Jerneen Micro Medical Technologies Inc.
ESteffens@...
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim McKechnie [mailto:jrmckechnie@...]
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 1:14 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Offtopic - MS Documentation
Hi Jim,
I have a procedure that I released to my organization last year. It is
a hybrid from some other companies for which I worked and some added
stipulations I felt were needed. It doesn't address everything you
list, but it would probably be a good boilerplate if you are interested.
I have it in MS Word format. Shall I email it to you?
Jim
Jim McKechnie
General Manager
Signtech Electrical Advertising, Inc.
jim@...
jrmckechnie@...
(619) 527-6100
-----Original Message-----
From: James MacMillan [mailto:jimmac@...]
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 1:50 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Offtopic - MS Documentation
Agreed, a stong corporate policy is what I am in search of. The
president,
however, wants documentation to that effect before he backs me up on any
policy. I can argue my point all day long, but he wants MS
documentation.
Jim MacMillan
System Administrator
www.sdi.cc
800-523-6180 x 207
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 2:45 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Offtopic - MS Documentation
I don't have a doc for you but my 2 cents would be that any peer-to-peer
(p2p) program like Napster is a wide open hole in your security. Like
taking a chain saw to an outside wall on your house and cutting a big
hole
right next to your locked door. These programs operate a lot like a
trojan
horse by opening a path to your network through a port assignment. Even
through your firewall they will allow traffic from outside. I suspect
that
even if file sharing is turned off (presumably for a user to only
download
files) it still leaves the port open. My biggest fear would be that
someone
would find a way to exploit this hole via some weakness in the program
and
thus gain access to the whole network. Most of this stuff is shareware
and
I would not bet my network on the coding skills of some small startup
operation (often a one person outfit). Even Microsoft has trouble with
exploitation of its products like IIS.
If the programs in question rely on a central index site perhaps your
firewall can block the IP address of those sites. This and a strong
corporate security policy with teeth are the best remedy.
-Todd C.
-----Original Message-----
From: James MacMillan [mailto:jimmac@...]
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 3:14 PM
To: Vantage Listserv
Subject: [Vantage] Offtopic - MS Documentation
I am looking for any Microsoft Documentation of the do's and dont's of a
Microsoft Network. Essentially, I am trying to prove that programs like
Napster and mp3.com engines destroy networks and shouldnt be allowed. I
am
trying to get our network to windows 2000 so that only administrators
can
install programs, but this is going to have to be an intermediate step.
Thanks
Jim MacMillan
System Administrator
www.sdi.cc
800-523-6180 x 207
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From: Steve Sanders [mailto:ssanders@...]
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 8:24 AM
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Subject: RE: [Vantage] Offtopic - MS Documentation [Moderator]
C'mon, folks. Most of you should know better by now!
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======================
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-----Original Message-----
From: Erica Steffens [mailto:ESteffens@...]
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 7:16 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Offtopic - MS Documentation
Jim,
Could you email that to me also?
Erica A. Steffens
System Administrator
Jerneen Micro Medical Technologies Inc.
ESteffens@...
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim McKechnie [mailto:jrmckechnie@...]
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 1:14 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Offtopic - MS Documentation
Hi Jim,
I have a procedure that I released to my organization last year. It is
a hybrid from some other companies for which I worked and some added
stipulations I felt were needed. It doesn't address everything you
list, but it would probably be a good boilerplate if you are interested.
I have it in MS Word format. Shall I email it to you?
Jim
Jim McKechnie
General Manager
Signtech Electrical Advertising, Inc.
jim@...
jrmckechnie@...
(619) 527-6100
-----Original Message-----
From: James MacMillan [mailto:jimmac@...]
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 1:50 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Offtopic - MS Documentation
Agreed, a stong corporate policy is what I am in search of. The
president,
however, wants documentation to that effect before he backs me up on any
policy. I can argue my point all day long, but he wants MS
documentation.
Jim MacMillan
System Administrator
www.sdi.cc
800-523-6180 x 207
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 2:45 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Offtopic - MS Documentation
I don't have a doc for you but my 2 cents would be that any peer-to-peer
(p2p) program like Napster is a wide open hole in your security. Like
taking a chain saw to an outside wall on your house and cutting a big
hole
right next to your locked door. These programs operate a lot like a
trojan
horse by opening a path to your network through a port assignment. Even
through your firewall they will allow traffic from outside. I suspect
that
even if file sharing is turned off (presumably for a user to only
download
files) it still leaves the port open. My biggest fear would be that
someone
would find a way to exploit this hole via some weakness in the program
and
thus gain access to the whole network. Most of this stuff is shareware
and
I would not bet my network on the coding skills of some small startup
operation (often a one person outfit). Even Microsoft has trouble with
exploitation of its products like IIS.
If the programs in question rely on a central index site perhaps your
firewall can block the IP address of those sites. This and a strong
corporate security policy with teeth are the best remedy.
-Todd C.
-----Original Message-----
From: James MacMillan [mailto:jimmac@...]
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 3:14 PM
To: Vantage Listserv
Subject: [Vantage] Offtopic - MS Documentation
I am looking for any Microsoft Documentation of the do's and dont's of a
Microsoft Network. Essentially, I am trying to prove that programs like
Napster and mp3.com engines destroy networks and shouldnt be allowed. I
am
trying to get our network to windows 2000 so that only administrators
can
install programs, but this is going to have to be an intermediate step.
Thanks
Jim MacMillan
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