Part Rev Issues - Vantage 8.03

system · June 21, 2007, 12:04pm

Hi Joe.... unfortunately I don't get the opportunity to check this board as often as I'd like.

As for the "Part Rev" issue... we have taken another approach. We are using the Product Configurator with a lookup table... and our business relies heavily on the use of the pc.. so, we're talking with the custom coding department to see if there's a resolution down that path.

Thanks for the input though!
Enjoy your week's end,
Holly

----- Original Message ----
From: Joe Berg <josephdavidberg@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2007 11:10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Part Rev Issues - Vantage 8.03

Did you originally engineer the Ballscrew jack, rev A, with Rev A of the flange, coupling and worm gear?

Then you decided to make a change to the worn gear, rev a -> rev b? correct?

If you don't change the ballscrew, and re-engineer it from Rev A to Rev b, it will never change. Technical the ball screw with the new flange is a new part/rev right?

Does this help?

Joe

----- Original Message ----
From: Holly Reed <hr.nook@yahoo. com>
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Friday, June 1, 2007 1:18:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Part Rev Issues - Vantage 8.03

Sorry for the delay.. I've been out of the office.

Okay, let's see...

Working with the configurator to select (from lookup files) the requested components for an assembled part (like a ballscrew jack)...

... if the flange is rev A... the coupling is rev A... the worm gear is rev B.... and the entire part string populated is rev A, the part details returned will only show those at "rev A" and leave out the "rev B" gear. The majority of our business is made to order. An assembly can almost always be made up of a collection of parts that may not be at the same rev. (does that make more sense?) It's hard to explain.

We don't understand why the logic only wants to bring back (from the lookup tables) those parts that have the save rev as the completed assembly.

Any suggestions from that?
Thanks for trying to help!

Enjoy your weekend!
Holly

----- Original Message ----
From: Joe Berg <josephdavidberg@ yahoo.com>
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 10:42:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Part Rev Issues - Vantage 8.03

Yes, that is correct Active=Approved.

I beleive it's a recommendation.

Let me know if it helps.

Joe

----- Original Message ----
From: Ed Ortiz <zx6rr@sbcglobal. net>
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 8:01:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Part Rev Issues - Vantage 8.03

Can you please describe "active", do you mean one approved revision per part?

Thanks,

Ed Ortiz
Sr. Project Engineer
Manitex
3000 S. Austin Ave.
Georgetown, TX 78627-1609

Joe Berg <josephdavidberg@ yahoo.com> wrote: I'm not sure if this helps, but I've been told it's important to only have one active rev per part.

----- Original Message ----
From: Holly Reed <hr.nook@yahoo. com>
To: Epicor User Group <vantage@yahoogroup s .com>
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 10:19:54 AM
Subject: [Vantage] Part Rev Issues - Vantage 8.03

Epicor's Support hasn't been able to resolve this one... maybe someone out there can assist?

During our implementation, we have developed our many product configurators to use "filelookup" tables. The majority of our business is configured parts, so it's quite vast.

One of our current issues is this... if the base of an assembled component is at Rev B, and two of the parts that are required for the assembly of this component are at Rev C... then the "Get Details" will pull in only the parts that are at the same Rev as the base component, the 2 parts at Rev C will not tie in. We must find a way around this... as this case is very much a constant in our business.

Any ideas?

Thanks!
H. Reed
Cleveland, OH

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system · May 17, 2007, 11:19am

Epicor's Support hasn't been able to resolve this one... maybe someone out there can assist?

During our implementation, we have developed our many product configurators to use "filelookup" tables. The majority of our business is configured parts, so it's quite vast.

One of our current issues is this... if the base of an assembled component is at Rev B, and two of the parts that are required for the assembly of this component are at Rev C... then the "Get Details" will pull in only the parts that are at the same Rev as the base component, the 2 parts at Rev C will not tie in. We must find a way around this... as this case is very much a constant in our business.

Any ideas?

Thanks!
H. Reed
Cleveland, OH

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system · May 18, 2007, 9:37am

Holly asks:

> One of our current issues is this... if the base of an assembled component
> is at Rev B, and two of the parts that are required for the assembly of this
> component are at Rev C... then the "Get Details" will pull in only the parts
> that are at the same Rev as the base component, the 2 parts at Rev C will
> not tie in. We must find a way around this... as this case is very much a
> constant in our business.

Could you expand on this? I, personally, don't understand your issue. Can you
"draw some pictures"? My experience has been that the effective date is used
when choosing Revs. Are you trying to store inventory at certain revs?

Mark W.

system · May 18, 2007, 10:43am

Holly,

Also describe how the file lookups and the part revs are related. I
would think you would be using some keep when rules to determine
whice parts you are keeping.

Jeremy

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Wonsil" <mark_wonsil@...>
wrote:

>
> Holly asks:
> > One of our current issues is this... if the base of an assembled

component

> > is at Rev B, and two of the parts that are required for the

assembly of this

> > component are at Rev C... then the "Get Details" will pull in

only the parts

> > that are at the same Rev as the base component, the 2 parts at

Rev C will

> > not tie in. We must find a way around this... as this case is

very much a

> > constant in our business.
>
> Could you expand on this? I, personally, don't understand your

issue. Can you

> "draw some pictures"? My experience has been that the effective

date is used

> when choosing Revs. Are you trying to store inventory at certain

revs?

>
> Mark W.
>

system · May 18, 2007, 10:25pm

I'm not sure if this helps, but I've been told it's important to only have one active rev per part.

----- Original Message ----
From: Holly Reed <hr.nook@...>
To: Epicor User Group <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 10:19:54 AM
Subject: [Vantage] Part Rev Issues - Vantage 8.03

Epicor's Support hasn't been able to resolve this one... maybe someone out there can assist?

During our implementation, we have developed our many product configurators to use "filelookup" tables. The majority of our business is configured parts, so it's quite vast.

One of our current issues is this... if the base of an assembled component is at Rev B, and two of the parts that are required for the assembly of this component are at Rev C... then the "Get Details" will pull in only the parts that are at the same Rev as the base component, the 2 parts at Rev C will not tie in. We must find a way around this... as this case is very much a constant in our business.

Any ideas?

Thanks!
H. Reed
Cleveland, OH

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system · May 21, 2007, 9:04am

Can you please describe "active", do you mean one approved revision per part?

Thanks,

Ed Ortiz
Sr. Project Engineer
Manitex
3000 S. Austin Ave.
Georgetown, TX 78627-1609

Joe Berg <josephdavidberg@...> wrote: I'm not sure if this helps, but I've been told it's important to only have one active rev per part.

----- Original Message ----
From: Holly Reed <hr.nook@...>
To: Epicor User Group <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 10:19:54 AM
Subject: [Vantage] Part Rev Issues - Vantage 8.03

Epicor's Support hasn't been able to resolve this one... maybe someone out there can assist?

During our implementation, we have developed our many product configurators to use "filelookup" tables. The majority of our business is configured parts, so it's quite vast.

One of our current issues is this... if the base of an assembled component is at Rev B, and two of the parts that are required for the assembly of this component are at Rev C... then the "Get Details" will pull in only the parts that are at the same Rev as the base component, the 2 parts at Rev C will not tie in. We must find a way around this... as this case is very much a constant in our business.

Any ideas?

Thanks!
H. Reed
Cleveland, OH

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system · May 21, 2007, 10:43am

Yes, that is correct Active=Approved.

I beleive it's a recommendation.

Let me know if it helps.

Joe

----- Original Message ----
From: Ed Ortiz <zx6rr@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 8:01:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Part Rev Issues - Vantage 8.03

Can you please describe "active", do you mean one approved revision per part?

Thanks,

Ed Ortiz
Sr. Project Engineer
Manitex
3000 S. Austin Ave.
Georgetown, TX 78627-1609

Joe Berg <josephdavidberg@ yahoo.com> wrote: I'm not sure if this helps, but I've been told it's important to only have one active rev per part.

----- Original Message ----
From: Holly Reed <hr.nook@yahoo. com>
To: Epicor User Group <vantage@yahoogroups .com>
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 10:19:54 AM
Subject: [Vantage] Part Rev Issues - Vantage 8.03

Epicor's Support hasn't been able to resolve this one... maybe someone out there can assist?

During our implementation, we have developed our many product configurators to use "filelookup" tables. The majority of our business is configured parts, so it's quite vast.

One of our current issues is this... if the base of an assembled component is at Rev B, and two of the parts that are required for the assembly of this component are at Rev C... then the "Get Details" will pull in only the parts that are at the same Rev as the base component, the 2 parts at Rev C will not tie in. We must find a way around this... as this case is very much a constant in our business.

Any ideas?

Thanks!
H. Reed
Cleveland, OH

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system · June 1, 2007, 2:20pm

Sorry for the delay.. I've been out of the office.

Okay, let's see...

Working with the configurator to select (from lookup files) the requested components for an assembled part (like a ballscrew jack)...

... if the flange is rev A... the coupling is rev A... the worm gear is rev B.... and the entire part string populated is rev A, the part details returned will only show those at "rev A" and leave out the "rev B" gear. The majority of our business is made to order. An assembly can almost always be made up of a collection of parts that may not be at the same rev. (does that make more sense?) It's hard to explain.

We don't understand why the logic only wants to bring back (from the lookup tables) those parts that have the save rev as the completed assembly.

Any suggestions from that?
Thanks for trying to help!

Enjoy your weekend!
Holly

----- Original Message ----
From: Joe Berg <josephdavidberg@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 10:42:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Part Rev Issues - Vantage 8.03

Yes, that is correct Active=Approved.

I beleive it's a recommendation.

Let me know if it helps.

Joe

----- Original Message ----
From: Ed Ortiz <zx6rr@sbcglobal. net>
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 8:01:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Part Rev Issues - Vantage 8.03

Can you please describe "active", do you mean one approved revision per part?

Thanks,

Ed Ortiz
Sr. Project Engineer
Manitex
3000 S. Austin Ave.
Georgetown, TX 78627-1609

Joe Berg <josephdavidberg@ yahoo.com> wrote: I'm not sure if this helps, but I've been told it's important to only have one active rev per part.

----- Original Message ----
From: Holly Reed <hr.nook@yahoo. com>
To: Epicor User Group <vantage@yahoogroup s .com>
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 10:19:54 AM
Subject: [Vantage] Part Rev Issues - Vantage 8.03

Epicor's Support hasn't been able to resolve this one... maybe someone out there can assist?

During our implementation, we have developed our many product configurators to use "filelookup" tables. The majority of our business is configured parts, so it's quite vast.

One of our current issues is this... if the base of an assembled component is at Rev B, and two of the parts that are required for the assembly of this component are at Rev C... then the "Get Details" will pull in only the parts that are at the same Rev as the base component, the 2 parts at Rev C will not tie in. We must find a way around this... as this case is very much a constant in our business.

Any ideas?

Thanks!
H. Reed
Cleveland, OH

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system · June 4, 2007, 11:10am

Did you originally engineer the Ballscrew jack, rev A, with Rev A of the flange, coupling and worm gear?

Then you decided to make a change to the worn gear, rev a -> rev b? correct?

If you don't change the ballscrew, and re-engineer it from Rev A to Rev b, it will never change. Technical the ball screw with the new flange is a new part/rev right?

Does this help?

Joe

----- Original Message ----
From: Holly Reed <hr.nook@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 1, 2007 1:18:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Part Rev Issues - Vantage 8.03

Sorry for the delay.. I've been out of the office.

Okay, let's see...

Working with the configurator to select (from lookup files) the requested components for an assembled part (like a ballscrew jack)...

... if the flange is rev A... the coupling is rev A... the worm gear is rev B.... and the entire part string populated is rev A, the part details returned will only show those at "rev A" and leave out the "rev B" gear. The majority of our business is made to order. An assembly can almost always be made up of a collection of parts that may not be at the same rev. (does that make more sense?) It's hard to explain.

We don't understand why the logic only wants to bring back (from the lookup tables) those parts that have the save rev as the completed assembly.

Any suggestions from that?
Thanks for trying to help!

Enjoy your weekend!
Holly

----- Original Message ----
From: Joe Berg <josephdavidberg@ yahoo.com>
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 10:42:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Part Rev Issues - Vantage 8.03

Yes, that is correct Active=Approved.

I beleive it's a recommendation.

Let me know if it helps.

Joe

----- Original Message ----
From: Ed Ortiz <zx6rr@sbcglobal. net>
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 8:01:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Part Rev Issues - Vantage 8.03

Can you please describe "active", do you mean one approved revision per part?

Thanks,

Ed Ortiz
Sr. Project Engineer
Manitex
3000 S. Austin Ave.
Georgetown, TX 78627-1609

Joe Berg <josephdavidberg@ yahoo.com> wrote: I'm not sure if this helps, but I've been told it's important to only have one active rev per part.

----- Original Message ----
From: Holly Reed <hr.nook@yahoo. com>
To: Epicor User Group <vantage@yahoogroup s .com>
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 10:19:54 AM
Subject: [Vantage] Part Rev Issues - Vantage 8.03

Epicor's Support hasn't been able to resolve this one... maybe someone out there can assist?

During our implementation, we have developed our many product configurators to use "filelookup" tables. The majority of our business is configured parts, so it's quite vast.

One of our current issues is this... if the base of an assembled component is at Rev B, and two of the parts that are required for the assembly of this component are at Rev C... then the "Get Details" will pull in only the parts that are at the same Rev as the base component, the 2 parts at Rev C will not tie in. We must find a way around this... as this case is very much a constant in our business.

Any ideas?

Thanks!
H. Reed
Cleveland, OH

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