PAYROLL MODULE vs. OUTSOURCING TO ADP or PAYCHEX

Julie, Robert, & Randy-

Thanks for the responses! I will be researching this option further.
Randy, to answer your question, yes, we use Labor Entry (a clerk manually
entering timecards into the system on a daily basis), so all the shop (i.e.
hourly employees) time is already in Vantage. If you don't mind, I may pick
each of your brains offlist as I begin evaluating this option - I am
definiately interested in automating this process (i.e. tax
payments/filings) as much as possible.


Thanks!



Rick Ludwig



-----Original Message-----
From: Julie Lehmann [mailto:jlehmann@...]
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 4:30 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] PAYROLL MODULE vs. OUTSOURCING TO ADP or PAYCHEX


We use Vantage's Payroll module. Have 160 employees right now, and with
data collection it goes really fast. It probably takes me about 4 hours a
week from start to finish. Since it also acrrues and deducts vacation used,
that's a big time savings right
there for us. It also does all the break-down to the proper accounts for
wages, taxes, and other deductions. That saves time for us too, rather than
making journal entries to all of those accounts. I like it - after the
initial set-up, it's really easy.

Julie
Mercury Minnesota Inc.

----- Original Message -----
From: Ludwig, Rick
To: 'Vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 2:34 PM
Subject: [Vantage] PAYROLL MODULE vs. OUTSOURCING TO ADP or PAYCHEX


To the fellow "bean counters"-

How many of you are using Vantage's Payroll Module vs. outsourcing to ADP
or
Paychex? If so, what are your thoughts of it.

We are in a "cost cutting" mode and currently use ADP. We pay roughly
$22k
per year. As I see it, ADP is mainly cutting checks, filing/paying
payroll
taxes, paying garnishments, and handling new employee reporting. I am
looking at a quote from Paychex for $17k per year with $1,000 initial set
up
fee, which looks good, but I'm wondering if I can cut more costs.

I would like to hear some of your thoughts on using Vantage exclusively
for
payroll vs. outsourcing. In addition, if we stick with outsourcing, ways
to
reduce some costs by bringing certain pieces back in house. My payroll
clerk has done the payroll for 20+ years, and I understand many years ago,
she used to do it all in house.

Some of our statistics:

- 2 States with plants (IN & IL) w/ a couple employees in 2 other states
(total of 4 states)
- Our IL plant is not yet on Vantage, however, it is scheduled for Q1 '04
- We do not, and have no plans to, use Data Collection (timecards are
manually entered)
- 160 employees w/ approximately 25 weekly garnishment payments
- Weekly pay runs (paid the following Thursday)
- 2 to 3 new employees per month

Any thoughts ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,

Rick Ludwig

Vice President of Finance & Administration
Metal Spinners, Inc.
Angola, IN 46703
DIRECT (260) 665-2192 x225
FAX (260) 665-5327


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To the fellow "bean counters"-

How many of you are using Vantage's Payroll Module vs. outsourcing to ADP or
Paychex? If so, what are your thoughts of it.

We are in a "cost cutting" mode and currently use ADP. We pay roughly $22k
per year. As I see it, ADP is mainly cutting checks, filing/paying payroll
taxes, paying garnishments, and handling new employee reporting. I am
looking at a quote from Paychex for $17k per year with $1,000 initial set up
fee, which looks good, but I'm wondering if I can cut more costs.

I would like to hear some of your thoughts on using Vantage exclusively for
payroll vs. outsourcing. In addition, if we stick with outsourcing, ways to
reduce some costs by bringing certain pieces back in house. My payroll
clerk has done the payroll for 20+ years, and I understand many years ago,
she used to do it all in house.

Some of our statistics:

- 2 States with plants (IN & IL) w/ a couple employees in 2 other states
(total of 4 states)
- Our IL plant is not yet on Vantage, however, it is scheduled for Q1 '04
- We do not, and have no plans to, use Data Collection (timecards are
manually entered)
- 160 employees w/ approximately 25 weekly garnishment payments
- Weekly pay runs (paid the following Thursday)
- 2 to 3 new employees per month

Any thoughts ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,

Rick Ludwig

Vice President of Finance & Administration
Metal Spinners, Inc.
Angola, IN 46703
DIRECT (260) 665-2192 x225
FAX (260) 665-5327
We have 100 employees and I use Vantage payroll. It takes me between 2-3
hours a week to prepare the payroll
print checks transfer payroll $ pay taxes etc I do have everything set up
electronically Fed taxes paid online
state taxes paid by electronic transfer all child support payments are also
electronically sent. Once everything is set up its a piece of cake. And my 3
hrs of pay will never come near the cost of either adp or paychex. You also
have complete control of w2s etc. Robert Christian Controller
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ludwig, Rick" <RickL@...>
To: <Vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 3:34 PM
Subject: [Vantage] PAYROLL MODULE vs. OUTSOURCING TO ADP or PAYCHEX


> To the fellow "bean counters"-
>
> How many of you are using Vantage's Payroll Module vs. outsourcing to ADP
or
> Paychex? If so, what are your thoughts of it.
>
> We are in a "cost cutting" mode and currently use ADP. We pay roughly
$22k
> per year. As I see it, ADP is mainly cutting checks, filing/paying
payroll
> taxes, paying garnishments, and handling new employee reporting. I am
> looking at a quote from Paychex for $17k per year with $1,000 initial set
up
> fee, which looks good, but I'm wondering if I can cut more costs.
>
> I would like to hear some of your thoughts on using Vantage exclusively
for
> payroll vs. outsourcing. In addition, if we stick with outsourcing, ways
to
> reduce some costs by bringing certain pieces back in house. My payroll
> clerk has done the payroll for 20+ years, and I understand many years ago,
> she used to do it all in house.
>
> Some of our statistics:
>
> - 2 States with plants (IN & IL) w/ a couple employees in 2 other states
> (total of 4 states)
> - Our IL plant is not yet on Vantage, however, it is scheduled for Q1 '04
> - We do not, and have no plans to, use Data Collection (timecards are
> manually entered)
> - 160 employees w/ approximately 25 weekly garnishment payments
> - Weekly pay runs (paid the following Thursday)
> - 2 to 3 new employees per month
>
> Any thoughts ideas would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Rick Ludwig
>
> Vice President of Finance & Administration
> Metal Spinners, Inc.
> Angola, IN 46703
> DIRECT (260) 665-2192 x225
> FAX (260) 665-5327
>
>
>
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>
>
Rick, Do you use Labor Entry to enter labor to a job? If so, everything
should be pretty easy, once you set it up. We are currently using Data
Collection/Plant Floor and love it. We use Vantage payroll with 63
employees and 1 out of state (OK). We also have 100% participation
(mandatory for new employees) on direct deposit. It takes us roughly 2
hours to process payroll, including 401k, cafeteria plan, and 10
garnishments. We process payroll bi-weekly.

Randall Lunsford
Excel Machinery, Ltd.
e-mail: rlunsf@...
Phone: (806) 335-4565 ext. 531
Fax: (806) 335-9017

-----Original Message-----
From: Ludwig, Rick [mailto:RickL@...]
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 2:34 PM
To: 'Vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] PAYROLL MODULE vs. OUTSOURCING TO ADP or PAYCHEX

To the fellow "bean counters"-

How many of you are using Vantage's Payroll Module vs. outsourcing to ADP or
Paychex? If so, what are your thoughts of it.

We are in a "cost cutting" mode and currently use ADP. We pay roughly $22k
per year. As I see it, ADP is mainly cutting checks, filing/paying payroll
taxes, paying garnishments, and handling new employee reporting. I am
looking at a quote from Paychex for $17k per year with $1,000 initial set up
fee, which looks good, but I'm wondering if I can cut more costs.

I would like to hear some of your thoughts on using Vantage exclusively for
payroll vs. outsourcing. In addition, if we stick with outsourcing, ways to
reduce some costs by bringing certain pieces back in house. My payroll
clerk has done the payroll for 20+ years, and I understand many years ago,
she used to do it all in house.

Some of our statistics:

- 2 States with plants (IN & IL) w/ a couple employees in 2 other states
(total of 4 states)
- Our IL plant is not yet on Vantage, however, it is scheduled for Q1 '04
- We do not, and have no plans to, use Data Collection (timecards are
manually entered)
- 160 employees w/ approximately 25 weekly garnishment payments
- Weekly pay runs (paid the following Thursday)
- 2 to 3 new employees per month

Any thoughts ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,

Rick Ludwig

Vice President of Finance & Administration
Metal Spinners, Inc.
Angola, IN 46703
DIRECT (260) 665-2192 x225
FAX (260) 665-5327



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We use Vantage's Payroll module. Have 160 employees right now, and with data collection it goes really fast. It probably takes me about 4 hours a week from start to finish. Since it also acrrues and deducts vacation used, that's a big time savings right
there for us. It also does all the break-down to the proper accounts for wages, taxes, and other deductions. That saves time for us too, rather than making journal entries to all of those accounts. I like it - after the initial set-up, it's really easy.

Julie
Mercury Minnesota Inc.

----- Original Message -----
From: Ludwig, Rick
To: 'Vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 2:34 PM
Subject: [Vantage] PAYROLL MODULE vs. OUTSOURCING TO ADP or PAYCHEX


To the fellow "bean counters"-

How many of you are using Vantage's Payroll Module vs. outsourcing to ADP or
Paychex? If so, what are your thoughts of it.

We are in a "cost cutting" mode and currently use ADP. We pay roughly $22k
per year. As I see it, ADP is mainly cutting checks, filing/paying payroll
taxes, paying garnishments, and handling new employee reporting. I am
looking at a quote from Paychex for $17k per year with $1,000 initial set up
fee, which looks good, but I'm wondering if I can cut more costs.

I would like to hear some of your thoughts on using Vantage exclusively for
payroll vs. outsourcing. In addition, if we stick with outsourcing, ways to
reduce some costs by bringing certain pieces back in house. My payroll
clerk has done the payroll for 20+ years, and I understand many years ago,
she used to do it all in house.

Some of our statistics:

- 2 States with plants (IN & IL) w/ a couple employees in 2 other states
(total of 4 states)
- Our IL plant is not yet on Vantage, however, it is scheduled for Q1 '04
- We do not, and have no plans to, use Data Collection (timecards are
manually entered)
- 160 employees w/ approximately 25 weekly garnishment payments
- Weekly pay runs (paid the following Thursday)
- 2 to 3 new employees per month

Any thoughts ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,

Rick Ludwig

Vice President of Finance & Administration
Metal Spinners, Inc.
Angola, IN 46703
DIRECT (260) 665-2192 x225
FAX (260) 665-5327


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