Product Configurator

Hi Vantage Wizads,
I am currently working on the product configurator and I need to know if I can pull in a list of materials from Vantage Parts list into a pull down selection box inside the configurator?

Regards,
David Sloan
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Entech Integrated Technologies

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In version 5.1 there is a way of using a excel spreadsheet to pull in
values. In 5.0 you will need to create the drop down list with the required
data/answers, then in the rules put the selected answer into the proper
table/field.
With a little more information of what you are trying to accomplish we could
come up with a few other options.

Thanks,

Kevin Kadamus

Intelligent Systems Integration, Inc.
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-----Original Message-----
From: David Sloan [mailto:dsloan@...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 2:25 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Product Configurator


Hi Vantage Wizads,
I am currently working on the product configurator and I need to know if I
can pull in a list of materials from Vantage Parts list into a pull down
selection box inside the configurator?

Regards,
David Sloan
IT Manager
Entech Integrated Technologies

Phone: +61 8 8245 6789
Fax: +61 8 8245 6788
Direct Phone: +61 8 8245 6732
Postal Address: PO Box 1141, Marleston SA 5033
Site Address: 37 Belford Ave, Devon Pk SA 5008
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email: dsloan@...
Web: http://www.entechgroup.net <http://www.entechgroup.net>
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To all,
When we were given the sales demonstration of the product
configurator, we saw that the part's configuration was detailed in
the part description based upon the choices made. For example, if I
have a part which I configure the color, diameter and length and the
part number is R/3/4, the sales order (or quote) description then
would say:
R = Red
3 = Dia. Three inches
4 = Len. Four inches

Does anyone know how to do this?

Thanks in advance!!!

Andrew
This is done by creating rules that set the part.description field based on
the responses given. Depending on how you want you description to read and
how your input is set-up, you may have to do this in different ways. You
may be able to simply set the field and add up various strings together, or
you may need multiple If/Then statements.

Since this is a programming type issue, I cannot give you an exact way to do
it, but hopefully the above may help you.

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-----Original Message-----
From: andrewcretors [mailto:acretors@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 8:39 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Product Configurator


To all,
When we were given the sales demonstration of the product
configurator, we saw that the part's configuration was detailed in
the part description based upon the choices made. For example, if I
have a part which I configure the color, diameter and length and the
part number is R/3/4, the sales order (or quote) description then
would say:
R = Red
3 = Dia. Three inches
4 = Len. Four inches

Does anyone know how to do this?

Thanks in advance!!!

Andrew



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Andrew,
Use the Set Field rule in the product configurator. The relevant fields to set are:
1. QuoteDtlLine.Desc - for the Quote
2. QuoteAsm.Description - for the Quote Mfg Details
3. JobHead.PartDescription - for the Job Header
4. JobAsmbl.Description - for the Job Details

If your inputs are formatted in the same way you want to display the description (e.g. you input COLOR as "Red", not R; DIA input as Four, not 4) then you can just string together your inputs. For Example:
Set Field QuoteDtlLine.Desc = COLOR + " Dia. " + DIA + "inches " + "Len " + LEN + "inches"
(Took out all the parentheses for clarity)

If your inputs are formatted differently (e.g. you input DIA as 4 but you want to show "Four" in the description) then you can use a whole string of If-Then statements. If the choices for a particular input are large, better use the ExcelLook-up rule. This will save you a lot of If-Then statements. Besides, the maximum number of characters in a rule is 1000.

BTW, input choices and Part Number smart string can be in a different formats. For Example, when using Drop Down boxes numbers can be shown as One, Two or Three while the smart string can be formatted to show be 1,2,3. That way you don't have to transform the input when building the description.

You can change the description using the Set Field rule if you use the configurator in Quote Entry or Job Entry. You need to execute the Mfg Details function to invoke the rules. If you don't, the univeral part's description will not be changed.

I have not been able to use the Product Configurator to change the description automatically in Sales Order Entry. There is no Mfg Details function in Sales Order Entry, therefore the rules to change the description will not get invoked. Besides, no Sales Order fields are available for setting in the Product Configurator Rule Builder.

Hope this helps. Contact off-line if you need more info.

Gil Amilbangsa
Australian Healthcare Equipment
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 12:38:43 -0000
From: "andrewcretors" <acretors@...>
Subject: Product Configurator

To all,
When we were given the sales demonstration of the product
configurator, we saw that the part's configuration was detailed in
the part description based upon the choices made. For example, if I
have a part which I configure the color, diameter and length and the
part number is R/3/4, the sales order (or quote) description then
would say:
R = Red
3 = Dia. Three inches
4 = Len. Four inches

Does anyone know how to do this?

Thanks in advance!!!

Andrew
Is anyone using Product Configurator? I've read up on it and I think it
would be very useful for our company. We have many BOM's where the only
difference may be 1 or 2 items and I believe I can group them under PC. If
anyone is using it can you list the positives and any negatives you can
think of .

Thank you,

Fredy Venczel
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The positive is it is extremely powerful and works slick when it does. I
have seen it literally transform a company before.

Negatives:
The user base is too small to get all the bugs worked out, so prepare for a
lot of workarounds especially with multi-level BOMs
May require progress programming for any advanced stuff.
The editor is lousy.
The cost + time to implement + the fact that few if any Epicor employees who
do front line support have had to deal with it.

Having said all that I still highly recommend it.

Oleg Tumarkin
Intelligent Systems Integration
(330) 335-5291
olegt@...

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-----Original Message-----
From: Fredy Venczel [mailto:fvenczel@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 2:01 PM
To: Vantage (E-mail)
Subject: [Vantage] Product Configurator


Is anyone using Product Configurator? I've read up on it and I think it
would be very useful for our company. We have many BOM's where the only
difference may be 1 or 2 items and I believe I can group them under PC. If
anyone is using it can you list the positives and any negatives you can
think of .

Thank you,

Fredy Venczel
dhX

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I agree the configurator is a very powerful and useful tool. We have used
it for 2 years. The configurator was the only way we could get our inside
salespeople to convert from an excel spreadsheet to using Vantage. It works
very well if you have a customizable and complex product. It eliminates the
need to have highly technical quote entry people. All the rules are behind
the scenes. All the entry person has to do is answer the questions. It
also significantly increases consistency and accuracy on the quote and job.
We do not use the smartstring part numbering. The only problem we have had
is in our highly complex product (400+ rules, 1500+ part possibilites) is
that it can take 10 seconds to go between pages. Other than that it has
been a life saver for us. If you do purchase it, make sure someone has time
to implement and maintain it. Contact me if you have any other questions.

I highly recommend it.

Alex Neutgens
Controller
Circuit Check Inc.
Phone: 763.694.4110
Fax: 763.694.4151

-----Original Message-----
From: Oleg Tumarkin [mailto:olegt@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:22 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Product Configurator


The positive is it is extremely powerful and works slick when it does. I
have seen it literally transform a company before.

Negatives:
The user base is too small to get all the bugs worked out, so prepare for a
lot of workarounds especially with multi-level BOMs
May require progress programming for any advanced stuff.
The editor is lousy.
The cost + time to implement + the fact that few if any Epicor employees who
do front line support have had to deal with it.

Having said all that I still highly recommend it.

Oleg Tumarkin
Intelligent Systems Integration
(330) 335-5291
olegt@...

"Making Intelligent Use of Technology"

-----Original Message-----
From: Fredy Venczel [mailto:fvenczel@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 2:01 PM
To: Vantage (E-mail)
Subject: [Vantage] Product Configurator


Is anyone using Product Configurator? I've read up on it and I think it
would be very useful for our company. We have many BOM's where the only
difference may be 1 or 2 items and I believe I can group them under PC. If
anyone is using it can you list the positives and any negatives you can
think of .

Thank you,

Fredy Venczel
dhX

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Fredy,
I'll email directly a short pdf document on understanding the product configurator that may be of help. This document is a mix of some stuff in the Vantage help files and a lot found out while testing the system.

Gil Amilbangsa
Australian Healthcare Equipment
gil.amilbangsa@...

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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:00:41 -0400
From: Fredy Venczel <fvenczel@...>
Subject: Product Configurator

Is anyone using Product Configurator? I've read up on it and I think it
would be very useful for our company. We have many BOM's where the only
difference may be 1 or 2 items and I believe I can group them under PC. If
anyone is using it can you list the positives and any negatives you can
think of .

Thank you,

Fredy Venczel
dhX

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Gil,
Could you please send that directly to me too. I have just introduced
the idea of using Product Configurator and would like to have as musch
background as I can.

Thanks,
Kathy Hambleton
kbh@...

-----Original Message-----
From: Gil Amilbangsa [mailto:gil.amilbangsa@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 6:42 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] RE: Product Configurator


Fredy,
I'll email directly a short pdf document on understanding the product
configurator that may be of help. This document is a mix of some stuff
in the Vantage help files and a lot found out while testing the system.

Gil Amilbangsa
Australian Healthcare Equipment
gil.amilbangsa@...

________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

Message: 16
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:00:41 -0400
From: Fredy Venczel <fvenczel@...>
Subject: Product Configurator

Is anyone using Product Configurator? I've read up on it and I think it
would be very useful for our company. We have many BOM's where the only
difference may be 1 or 2 items and I believe I can group them under PC.
If
anyone is using it can you list the positives and any negatives you can
think of .

Thank you,

Fredy Venczel
dhX

* fvenczel@...
* (450) 979-8723
* (450) 979-8426
* http://www.xebecinc.com <http://www.xebecinc.com/>




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Is any one from the group using product configurator? We use this
module quite extensively and found that after creating an order if
you go back to the original quote and make a chage to the customer
part number for any reason it blows away your configurations. While
Vantage Development admits this is a bug, they state they have no
plans to fix it and have sited it as a enhancement request. If this
issue affects anyone else I'd be interested to know.

Thanks,

Mark Smith
We are struggling to implement the configurator, this will be a problem for
us as well. Thanks for the heads up, how do we get it fixed?

Mitchell Kirby
V. P. Manufacturing
Riten Industries, Inc.

740-333-8719 Direct
800-338-0027 Sales
800-338-0717 FAX


-----Original Message-----
From: innerpac_il [mailto:mark_smith@...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 12:39 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Product Configurator


Is any one from the group using product configurator? We use this
module quite extensively and found that after creating an order if
you go back to the original quote and make a chage to the customer
part number for any reason it blows away your configurations. While
Vantage Development admits this is a bug, they state they have no
plans to fix it and have sited it as a enhancement request. If this
issue affects anyone else I'd be interested to know.

Thanks,

Mark Smith



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Mitchell:



The way I see it if a number of customers complain about the same lack
of functionality, then development has to address the issue. I was
hoping for a few more responses as there is strength in numbers.



Thanks

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From: Mitchell Kirby [mailto:m.kirby@...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 2:35 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Product Configurator



We are struggling to implement the configurator, this will be a problem
for
us as well. Thanks for the heads up, how do we get it fixed?

Mitchell Kirby
V. P. Manufacturing
Riten Industries, Inc.

740-333-8719 Direct
800-338-0027 Sales
800-338-0717 FAX


-----Original Message-----
From: innerpac_il [mailto:mark_smith@...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 12:39 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Product Configurator


Is any one from the group using product configurator? We use this
module quite extensively and found that after creating an order if
you go back to the original quote and make a chage to the customer
part number for any reason it blows away your configurations. While
Vantage Development admits this is a bug, they state they have no
plans to fix it and have sited it as a enhancement request. If this
issue affects anyone else I'd be interested to know.

Thanks,

Mark Smith



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Although it is irritating, I think there is some logic in this. When you enter/change a part number in Quote entry or Sales entry, Vantage does a search for the part in the Part Master. If the part number you put in does not correspond to the Universal Part where you enter a configuration, then it does not know that there is a configuration to store. And if the part number changes (especially when it uses smart string functionality), then there probebly is a corresponding change to the configuration anyway. In which case, you're better off re-configuring the part.

This is where I have a problem. Whenever we go back into the configurator button on the Sales Order (the stacked chips) to change inputs and click thru the finish button, the icon disappears from the screen. The new configuration is stored, but we can't go back in and review the input screens again. When in doubt, we end up reconfiguring the part again from scratch.

Have you seen this? We're on 5.2 and SQL.

Cheers from down under.

Gil Amilbangsa
Australian Healthcare Equipment - Murphy Furniture
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-----Original Message-----
From: innerpac_il [mailto:mark_smith@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 9 July 2003 2:39 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Product Configurator


Is any one from the group using product configurator? We use this
module quite extensively and found that after creating an order if
you go back to the original quote and make a chage to the customer
part number for any reason it blows away your configurations. While
Vantage Development admits this is a bug, they state they have no
plans to fix it and have sited it as a enhancement request. If this
issue affects anyone else I'd be interested to know.

Thanks,

Mark Smith



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Mark,

Wait a minute. If development admits this is a bug how can it possibly be
an "Enhancement" ???

Does this drive any one else crazy? It's one of the reasons we dropped
maintenance and are considering buying another package.

Bugs should be fixed. Period. It shouldn't be a matter of counting how many
people bitch about them.

Enhancements are a totally different bread and I agree that there should be
some dialog to decide if they should or should not be included in future
requests.

You might try calling your lawyer and having them call EPICOR. A
conversation about the fact that you purchased software to do a specific
function that flat out doesn't work the way EPICOR designed and sold it
might help MOTIVATE someone to fix your "BUG".

Ok, now I feel better ....

Todd Anderson

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To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Product Configurator


Is any one from the group using product configurator? We use this
module quite extensively and found that after creating an order if
you go back to the original quote and make a chage to the customer
part number for any reason it blows away your configurations. While
Vantage Development admits this is a bug, they state they have no
plans to fix it and have sited it as a enhancement request. If this
issue affects anyone else I'd be interested to know.

Thanks,

Mark Smith



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"Wait a minute. If development admits this is a bug how can it possibly be
an "Enhancement" ???"

Because it is Microsoft compatible!

Edward F. Fox, Jr., CPA
Controller
Maxson Automatic Machinery Company
Phone: 401-596-0162 x110
Fax: 401-596-1050
www.maxsonautomatic.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:33 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Product Configurator


Mark,

Wait a minute. If development admits this is a bug how can it possibly be
an "Enhancement" ???

Does this drive any one else crazy? It's one of the reasons we dropped
maintenance and are considering buying another package.

Bugs should be fixed. Period. It shouldn't be a matter of counting how many
people bitch about them.

Enhancements are a totally different bread and I agree that there should be
some dialog to decide if they should or should not be included in future
requests.

You might try calling your lawyer and having them call EPICOR. A
conversation about the fact that you purchased software to do a specific
function that flat out doesn't work the way EPICOR designed and sold it
might help MOTIVATE someone to fix your "BUG".

Ok, now I feel better ....

Todd Anderson

-----Original Message-----
From: innerpac_il [mailto:mark_smith@...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:39 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Product Configurator


Is any one from the group using product configurator? We use this
module quite extensively and found that after creating an order if
you go back to the original quote and make a chage to the customer
part number for any reason it blows away your configurations. While
Vantage Development admits this is a bug, they state they have no
plans to fix it and have sited it as a enhancement request. If this
issue affects anyone else I'd be interested to know.

Thanks,

Mark Smith



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This is so typical of Epicor in general. We have been using Vantage since
1996 and I tell you it's seen better management in the past. I remember at
the last users conference I went to. It was just after Epicor purchased
Vantage in Las Vegas. The new CEO said he would not allow another release
of the Vantage product until all the bugs were worked out of the current
release. Everyone felt really good about that statement. Either he could
not make it happen or didn't, but just the same they continue to deliver new
releases when the old one is still full of bugs. We just made the move to
5.2. The 320 patch level is a joke. We are having to patch up to 321
tonight(it was just released last tuesday). They already have 6.0 out for
public beta test...I mean public release. We still have problems with 5.2
that are not going to be fixed.

Paul Lipham
-----Original Message-----
From: Edward F. Fox, Jr. [mailto:efox@...]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 8:39 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Product Configurator


"Wait a minute. If development admits this is a bug how can it possibly
be
an "Enhancement" ???"

Because it is Microsoft compatible!

Edward F. Fox, Jr., CPA
Controller
Maxson Automatic Machinery Company
Phone: 401-596-0162 x110
Fax: 401-596-1050
www.maxsonautomatic.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:33 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Product Configurator


Mark,

Wait a minute. If development admits this is a bug how can it possibly be
an "Enhancement" ???

Does this drive any one else crazy? It's one of the reasons we dropped
maintenance and are considering buying another package.

Bugs should be fixed. Period. It shouldn't be a matter of counting how
many
people bitch about them.

Enhancements are a totally different bread and I agree that there should
be
some dialog to decide if they should or should not be included in future
requests.

You might try calling your lawyer and having them call EPICOR. A
conversation about the fact that you purchased software to do a specific
function that flat out doesn't work the way EPICOR designed and sold it
might help MOTIVATE someone to fix your "BUG".

Ok, now I feel better ....

Todd Anderson

-----Original Message-----
From: innerpac_il [mailto:mark_smith@...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:39 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Product Configurator


Is any one from the group using product configurator? We use this
module quite extensively and found that after creating an order if
you go back to the original quote and make a chage to the customer
part number for any reason it blows away your configurations. While
Vantage Development admits this is a bug, they state they have no
plans to fix it and have sited it as a enhancement request. If this
issue affects anyone else I'd be interested to know.

Thanks,

Mark Smith



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Ok, now I feel better ....

Todd Anderson


[Rick Gors]
Yeah, but for how long? :>

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This is basically what transpired:



Mark,



Development has responded to the problem of the disappearing
configurator button that this is a design limitation. An enhancement
request has been entered into the system to provide a way to do this,
but it is currently not possible because the CustXPrt table does not
have a way to store the information necessary to retain the configurator
button. See document below, which I have attached to your call...



Page ID 9768MPS



SUGGESTION:

The customer-part table (CustXPrt) needs to have a place to store the
base part number of a configured part. Otherwise, the configure option
can disappear when the customer part number changes.



PROBLEM DESCRIPTION:

Product Configurator button disappears after changing customer part
number on a quote.



Duplicated in Mntech 5.20.321



1. QM-->Gen Ops-->Opportunity/Quote. Add quote, any customer. 2. Add
line for a configured part. (I used p/n 'ck smart string, which has a
smart string attached to it.) 3. Enter a customer part number (make up
any number). 4. Add quote quantity. 5. Configure the part (it has a
smart string that creates a new part number, quote only). Mntech
example p/n 'ck smart string'. 6. Line-->Mfg Details. Get details from
the original master configured part (Methods of Manufacture). 7.
Line-->Worksheet. Enter a quoted price. 8. Quote-->Update. Flag the
quote as Quoted. 9. Order Entry, add a new order for the same customer.
Line-->Add from quote. Part number and customer part number are pulled
in from the quote. 10. On the order line, change the customer part
number. 11. Go back to quote entry. Reopen it. Update the quote (you
need to change the customer part number to match the order). Change the
customer part number. 12. Click OK. Go back in. The configurator
button is gone.



RESPONSE FROM DEVELOPMENT:

This behavior currently is a design limitation because the customer-part
table (CustXPrt) does not have a place to store the base part number of
a configured part. Please track this call as an enhancement request to
make this possible.





-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 8:33 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Product Configurator



Mark,

Wait a minute. If development admits this is a bug how can it possibly
be
an "Enhancement" ???

Does this drive any one else crazy? It's one of the reasons we dropped
maintenance and are considering buying another package.

Bugs should be fixed. Period. It shouldn't be a matter of counting how
many
people bitch about them.

Enhancements are a totally different bread and I agree that there should
be
some dialog to decide if they should or should not be included in future
requests.

You might try calling your lawyer and having them call EPICOR. A
conversation about the fact that you purchased software to do a specific
function that flat out doesn't work the way EPICOR designed and sold it
might help MOTIVATE someone to fix your "BUG".

Ok, now I feel better ....

Todd Anderson

-----Original Message-----
From: innerpac_il [mailto:mark_smith@...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:39 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Product Configurator


Is any one from the group using product configurator? We use this
module quite extensively and found that after creating an order if
you go back to the original quote and make a chage to the customer
part number for any reason it blows away your configurations. While
Vantage Development admits this is a bug, they state they have no
plans to fix it and have sited it as a enhancement request. If this
issue affects anyone else I'd be interested to know.

Thanks,

Mark Smith



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To all,
We are looking to finally implement the product configurator, but
have one challenge. We would like to have the part description act
like a legend for the smart string. Basically, if the part number
that is generated is GR6A1x-xx-x, we want in the description as
printed on the sales order / quote to say:

GR=Goldrush
6=6oz
A=120/1/60 volts
X=Salt
X=Standard Control
X=Stainless Steel Cabinet
X=No extra doors
X=No custom features

We saw the Epicor sales rep do this on the first version that the
configurator was available (4.0?) but we can't replicate. We are on
Vantage 5.1

Thanks in advance for your help!

Andrew