Updating User Defined Tables with ODBC

I'm not sure what your exact situation is but if you want to go in through the front door, you can setup a custom UI form for the UD table using Epicor.Mfg.UI.UDxxEntry.dll (replacing xx with the UD table number) as the program in Menu Maintenance. You can customize the form as needed. Then for mass updates, copy your data to Excel, update as needed outside the system, use paste insert or paste update in list view to write the data in the UD table.

None of the Epicor logic is based on the UD tables so you aren't bypassing any business rules. Assuming you don't have any customizations/BPM based on the UD table, you will not mess up anything with a proper formatted ODBC update query.



--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Rose <t.rose@...> wrote:
>
> I access the Vista tables a lot to get information I need. I am extraordinarily careful to never update any of the Epicor defined tables, only read them. However, there seems to be some opinion that one may safely update user defined tables without adverse consequences (assuming, of course, that one does not put garbage into the tables). My biggest concern is that Epicor would refuse to help me if I am updating the database from outside the Epicor defined system. I know they might do that if I update the tables they define, but will they have a problem if I only update user defined tables from outside the system?
>
> Thom Rose
> Controller
> Electric Mirror LLC
> HOTEL LUXURY
>
> "The World Leader in Back-lit Mirrors & Mirror TV Technology"
>
> T 425 776-4946
> A 11831 Beverly Park Rd, Bldg D, Everett, WA 98204 USA
> www.electricmirror.com<http://www.electricmirror.com>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
I access the Vista tables a lot to get information I need. I am extraordinarily careful to never update any of the Epicor defined tables, only read them. However, there seems to be some opinion that one may safely update user defined tables without adverse consequences (assuming, of course, that one does not put garbage into the tables). My biggest concern is that Epicor would refuse to help me if I am updating the database from outside the Epicor defined system. I know they might do that if I update the tables they define, but will they have a problem if I only update user defined tables from outside the system?

Thom Rose
Controller
Electric Mirror LLC
HOTEL LUXURY

"The World Leader in Back-lit Mirrors & Mirror TV Technology"

T 425 776-4946
A 11831 Beverly Park Rd, Bldg D, Everett, WA 98204 USA
www.electricmirror.com<http://www.electricmirror.com>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
They probably wouldn't help you with a user defined table regardless of how the
information was put into it. Personally, I don't see how you could cause any
problems by updating a user defined table through ODBC. A user defined table by
its self is useless. It needs to be incorporated with other tables using
customizations and/or BPMs to be really useful. At that point, you would be
hard press to find anyone at Epicor that could (or willing to) help you with a
customization problem involving a UD table.




________________________________
From: Thomas Rose <t.rose@...>
To: "vantage@yahoogroups.com" <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, August 17, 2010 10:02:27 AM
Subject: [Vantage] Updating User Defined Tables with ODBC

Â
I access the Vista tables a lot to get information I need. I am extraordinarily
careful to never update any of the Epicor defined tables, only read them.
However, there seems to be some opinion that one may safely update user defined
tables without adverse consequences (assuming, of course, that one does not put
garbage into the tables). My biggest concern is that Epicor would refuse to help
me if I am updating the database from outside the Epicor defined system. I know
they might do that if I update the tables they define, but will they have a
problem if I only update user defined tables from outside the system?

Thom Rose
Controller
Electric Mirror LLC
HOTEL LUXURY

"The World Leader in Back-lit Mirrors & Mirror TV Technology"

T 425 776-4946
A 11831 Beverly Park Rd, Bldg D, Everett, WA 98204 USA
www.electricmirror.com<http://www.electricmirror.com>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
But Epicor isn't going to say "you voided your warranty on the entire system" if you're updating UD tables *ONLY* via something other than the APIs.

-bws

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Gotschall
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 11:40 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Updating User Defined Tables with ODBC

They probably wouldn't help you with a user defined table regardless of how the
information was put into it. Personally, I don't see how you could cause any
problems by updating a user defined table through ODBC. A user defined table by
its self is useless. It needs to be incorporated with other tables using
customizations and/or BPMs to be really useful. At that point, you would be
hard press to find anyone at Epicor that could (or willing to) help you with a
customization problem involving a UD table.




________________________________
From: Thomas Rose <t.rose@...>
To: "vantage@yahoogroups.com" <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, August 17, 2010 10:02:27 AM
Subject: [Vantage] Updating User Defined Tables with ODBC

Â
I access the Vista tables a lot to get information I need. I am extraordinarily
careful to never update any of the Epicor defined tables, only read them.
However, there seems to be some opinion that one may safely update user defined
tables without adverse consequences (assuming, of course, that one does not put
garbage into the tables). My biggest concern is that Epicor would refuse to help
me if I am updating the database from outside the Epicor defined system. I know
they might do that if I update the tables they define, but will they have a
problem if I only update user defined tables from outside the system?

Thom Rose
Controller
Electric Mirror LLC
HOTEL LUXURY

"The World Leader in Back-lit Mirrors & Mirror TV Technology"

T 425 776-4946
A 11831 Beverly Park Rd, Bldg D, Everett, WA 98204 USA
www.electricmirror.com<http://www.electricmirror.com>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
Thank you, Brian and Steven. That is just what I needed to know!

Thom Rose
Controller
Electric Mirror LLC
HOTEL LUXURY

"The World Leader in Back-lit Mirrors & Mirror TV Technology"

T 425 776-4946
A 11831 Beverly Park Rd, Bldg D, Everett, WA 98204 USA
www.electricmirror.com<http://www.electricmirror.com>


From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian W. Spolarich
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:36 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Updating User Defined Tables with ODBC



But Epicor isn't going to say "you voided your warranty on the entire system" if you're updating UD tables *ONLY* via something other than the APIs.

-bws

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Steven Gotschall
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 11:40 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Updating User Defined Tables with ODBC

They probably wouldn't help you with a user defined table regardless of how the
information was put into it. Personally, I don't see how you could cause any
problems by updating a user defined table through ODBC. A user defined table by
its self is useless. It needs to be incorporated with other tables using
customizations and/or BPMs to be really useful. At that point, you would be
hard press to find anyone at Epicor that could (or willing to) help you with a
customization problem involving a UD table.




________________________________
From: Thomas Rose <t.rose@...<mailto:t.rose%40electricmirror.com>>
To: "vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>" <vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>>
Sent: Tue, August 17, 2010 10:02:27 AM
Subject: [Vantage] Updating User Defined Tables with ODBC


I access the Vista tables a lot to get information I need. I am extraordinarily
careful to never update any of the Epicor defined tables, only read them.
However, there seems to be some opinion that one may safely update user defined
tables without adverse consequences (assuming, of course, that one does not put
garbage into the tables). My biggest concern is that Epicor would refuse to help
me if I am updating the database from outside the Epicor defined system. I know
they might do that if I update the tables they define, but will they have a
problem if I only update user defined tables from outside the system?

Thom Rose
Controller
Electric Mirror LLC
HOTEL LUXURY

"The World Leader in Back-lit Mirrors & Mirror TV Technology"

T 425 776-4946
A 11831 Beverly Park Rd, Bldg D, Everett, WA 98204 USA
www.electricmirror.com<http://www.electricmirror.com>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
(2) To search through old msg's goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]