Vantage Accounting Vs Mass90 accounting

Thanks All for your replies, they were what I expected.

Thanks
Shirley

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We are on Vantage 5.0 and throughout all versions, we have struggled
with Inventory Unit of Measure during cycle counts and physicals
because U.O.M. is not on inventory tags. We have been told to
create a unit of measure database, but really need the whole process
spelled out.
Can anyone help?
I would suggest either adding to the inventory tag via crystal or having it
filled out on the pre-printed tag. We really tried to limit the possibility
of u/ms.

Frank Zeigafuse
Innovative Office Products
General Manager
Direct Phone: 610-559-6369
Email: fzeigafuse@...



-----Original Message-----
From: Carol Silvey [mailto:russsilvey@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 4:15 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Inventory UOM




We are on Vantage 5.0 and throughout all versions, we have struggled
with Inventory Unit of Measure during cycle counts and physicals
because U.O.M. is not on inventory tags. We have been told to
create a unit of measure database, but really need the whole process
spelled out.
Can anyone help?





Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
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At 04:14 PM 2/8/2005, you wrote:
>We are on Vantage 5.0 and throughout all versions, we have struggled with
>Inventory Unit of Measure during cycle counts and physicals because U.O.M.
>is not on inventory tags. We have been told to create a unit of measure
>database, but really need the whole process spelled out.

That is one of my biggest pet peeves with Vantage! Apparently no one at
Epicor has ever actually been involved in inventory-taking, or they would
have some clue how important it is for the person counting to know what
freakin' units they're supposed to be counting!!

There are a couple options. Easiest is probably to modify the Crystal form
to use ODBC to get the UOM from the database. I've never done it myself,
but it comes up all the time on this list. Basically, you get ODBC running
on the server. Then mod the Crystal form to include a sub-report to pull
in the database fields that aren't available in the .DBF files.

I added UOM to our inventory tags through a much kludgier method. Use
Vantage export utility to dump all the Part.PartNum and Part.IUM fields to
a DBase file. Then went through some gyrations with Access to add a
PartNum index to it. Then changed the Crystal form to join to my UOM
table. The UOM is pretty stable, so I was able to build the table well
ahead of the tag printing. Obviously this wouldn't work so well on more
dynamic data.

-Wayne Cox
Twenty Three, Inc. -- Information Technology Consulting
828-685-2338
Management has requested of me to examine the viability of "Breaking Off"
Vantage accounting and migrating it to a Mass90 accounting package and
running the two packages separately. The reason is: finding "Experience" in
the Vantage Accounting module is difficult and applicants appear to be used
to Mass90 accounting. I would VERY much appreciate candid comments.

Shirley Graver
Systems Administrator
Rubber Associates Inc



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I would hate to have to run two packages together... we had trouble with the "Experience" in this area too .. we just muddled through it until we got it going... I would much rather do that than have dual systems...

-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 9:27 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Vantage Accounting Vs Mass90 accounting




Management has requested of me to examine the viability of "Breaking Off"
Vantage accounting and migrating it to a Mass90 accounting package and
running the two packages separately. The reason is: finding "Experience" in
the Vantage Accounting module is difficult and applicants appear to be used
to Mass90 accounting. I would VERY much appreciate candid comments.

Shirley Graver
Systems Administrator
Rubber Associates Inc



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Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
Yahoo! Groups Links
Shirley,
I lost quite a few accounting people within the last year for my
department. I had an accounting supervisor here that had used Mass90
and actually really liked the Vantage accounting module because it was
so easy to use. I have had to train numerous people for accounts
payable (including temps) and everyone thinks Vantage is pretty straight
forward once they know where to look for the information that they need.


I think if the accounting people that you are looking to hire have good
computer skills, they are not going to have problems with Vantage. I
myself have never used Mass90, so I can't comment there.

Chris Hansen
Controller
Herker Industries, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 8:27 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Vantage Accounting Vs Mass90 accounting



Management has requested of me to examine the viability of "Breaking
Off"
Vantage accounting and migrating it to a Mass90 accounting package and
running the two packages separately. The reason is: finding
"Experience" in
the Vantage Accounting module is difficult and applicants appear to be
used
to Mass90 accounting. I would VERY much appreciate candid comments.

Shirley Graver
Systems Administrator
Rubber Associates Inc



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Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
Yahoo! Groups Links
If the candidate couldn't use the Vantage accounting modules then you have
the wrong candidate. Vantage is so easy to use that it would blow my mind
if anyone worth hiring couldn't pick it up in a couple of days.

Edward F. Fox, Jr. CPA
Controller
Maxson Automatic Machinery Company
Phone 401-596-0162 * Fax 401-596-1050
www.maxsonautomatic.com



-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 9:27 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Vantage Accounting Vs Mass90 accounting




Management has requested of me to examine the viability of "Breaking Off"
Vantage accounting and migrating it to a Mass90 accounting package and
running the two packages separately. The reason is: finding "Experience" in
the Vantage Accounting module is difficult and applicants appear to be used
to Mass90 accounting. I would VERY much appreciate candid comments.

Shirley Graver
Systems Administrator
Rubber Associates Inc



Tracking #: FA685C6995783D49B38303A6D135AE8527437DF6


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Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
Yahoo! Groups Links
You should as strongly as possible express that this is a very bad idea.
Vantage is a fully integrated package and using an external package would
cause a lot more work and leave so much room open for errors.

I also don't think you need to find someone experienced in Vantage! It is
so easy to learn. When we did our implementation our Controller quit the
first week and I was left to do it all and I knew nothing about the
accounting module. I took one of epicor's financial classes and did some
playing around on the training db and I was able to easily get the entire
thing set-up and vantage production and accounting fully implemented in 3
months. Then, we hired a new controller who had never used vantage before.
We sent him to the epicor financial training class and he came back and
jumped right in and never looked back and we've never had a problem.
Really, we've all found it very easy and seemless.



-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 9:27 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Vantage Accounting Vs Mass90 accounting

Management has requested of me to examine the viability of "Breaking Off"
Vantage accounting and migrating it to a Mass90 accounting package and
running the two packages separately. The reason is: finding "Experience" in
the Vantage Accounting module is difficult and applicants appear to be used
to Mass90 accounting. I would VERY much appreciate candid comments.

Shirley Graver
Systems Administrator
Rubber Associates Inc



Tracking #: FA685C6995783D49B38303A6D135AE8527437DF6


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Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
Yahoo! Groups Links










Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
Yahoo! Groups Links
Edward is entirely correct, Shirley. If a candidate understands
accounting, working in the Vantage accounting modules will be no problem
with just a couple days of experience. I don't want to imagine the
issues that would come up with a non-integrated GL.

Jim Martin

-----Original Message-----
From: Edward F. Fox, Jr. [mailto:efox@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 8:56 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Vantage Accounting Vs Mass90 accounting


If the candidate couldn't use the Vantage accounting modules then you
have
the wrong candidate. Vantage is so easy to use that it would blow my
mind
if anyone worth hiring couldn't pick it up in a couple of days.

Edward F. Fox, Jr. CPA
Controller
Maxson Automatic Machinery Company
Phone 401-596-0162 * Fax 401-596-1050
www.maxsonautomatic.com



-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 9:27 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Vantage Accounting Vs Mass90 accounting




Management has requested of me to examine the viability of "Breaking
Off"
Vantage accounting and migrating it to a Mass90 accounting package and
running the two packages separately. The reason is: finding
"Experience" in
the Vantage Accounting module is difficult and applicants appear to be
used
to Mass90 accounting. I would VERY much appreciate candid comments.

Shirley Graver
Systems Administrator
Rubber Associates Inc
I agree with what everyone has said.
This is what I would like to add, when we are recruiting we are not
accounting package specific we just look for computer accounting in an
manufacturing company, that is the important part. You are trying to find
accounting knowledge. Then we go through the resumes and I have 10 -12
people take a computer accounting test from I believe Hemmingway based on
what competencies we are looking for. I am a huge believer in solving the
problem. What you are telling me is that your company is concerned about
running 1 system so they propose to run 2???? I do not think that will fix
the problem.

Frank Zeigafuse
Innovative Office Products
General Manager
Direct Phone: 610-559-6369
Email: fzeigafuse@...



-----Original Message-----
From: James Martin Jr. [mailto:jmartin@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 11:11 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Vantage Accounting Vs Mass90 accounting



Edward is entirely correct, Shirley. If a candidate understands accounting,
working in the Vantage accounting modules will be no problem with just a
couple days of experience. I don't want to imagine the issues that would
come up with a non-integrated GL.

Jim Martin

-----Original Message-----
From: Edward F. Fox, Jr. [mailto:efox@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 8:56 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Vantage Accounting Vs Mass90 accounting


If the candidate couldn't use the Vantage accounting modules then you have
the wrong candidate. Vantage is so easy to use that it would blow my mind
if anyone worth hiring couldn't pick it up in a couple of days.

Edward F. Fox, Jr. CPA
Controller
Maxson Automatic Machinery Company
Phone 401-596-0162 * Fax 401-596-1050
www.maxsonautomatic.com



-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 9:27 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Vantage Accounting Vs Mass90 accounting




Management has requested of me to examine the viability of "Breaking Off"
Vantage accounting and migrating it to a Mass90 accounting package and
running the two packages separately. The reason is: finding "Experience" in
the Vantage Accounting module is difficult and applicants appear to be used
to Mass90 accounting. I would VERY much appreciate candid comments.

Shirley Graver
Systems Administrator
Rubber Associates Inc





Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
Yahoo! Groups Links










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This e-mail is from Innovative Office Products, Inc. but expresses the views of the sender and not necessarily the views of the company. The email and any files transmitted with it are confidential to the intended recipient at the e-mail address to which it has been addressed. It may not be disclosed or used by any other than that addressee, nor may it be copied in any way. If received in error, please delete and notify the sender via e-mail or sales@... quoting the name of the sender. Messages sent via this medium may be subject to delays, non-delivery and unauthorized alteration. This e-mail has been prepared using information believed by the author to be reliable and accurate. Unless expressly stated otherwise, this e-mail does not form part of a legally binding contract or agreement between recipient and Innovative Office Products, Inc.

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