My answer is pretty much the same as Todd's. We have it and can't/don't use
it much because we don't have the resources to make it work. Disk space,
training, etc. It is a very powerful tool. Now that some other issues are
out of the way it will be a hot topic this year. I am looking forward to
making it work for us. Making it work is part of our business plan for this
year.
My advice is do not under estimate the time and training it will take to
learn to use the tool. I had Epicor help me install and set it up to
refresh at night. This is essential in my opinion. We don't have a full
time IT person and setting it up even with help had some ups and downs. It
did work and the Epicor tech was first class.
If you don't make it a priority and devote some serious resources you will
end up with an expensive paper weight.
Sincerely,
Mitchell Kirby
Riten Industries, Inc.
www.riten.com
740-333-8719 Direct
800-338-0027 Sales
800-338-0717 FAX
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Todd Caughey
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:36 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Vantage Business Intelligence
We have had VBI for quite awhile and have never been able to use it. 90%
self inflicted. I am still convinved it will be one of our three major
tools for reporting with 8.0 and the loss of RB. I went to the CorVu
classes (CorBusiness and Administrator) and saqw great potential but have
never been able to implement it here. First reason was an incompatibility
with our, then, NT 4.0 Vantage server and the difficulty locating the
dynamart files on another server. Then when we got that working (we being
me and Epicor consultants) it consumed the entire free space on that server.
As neas as I can tell the VBI data will take 1.5X to 2X the size of the
Vantage DB. So prepare to allow for a lot of extra space. Due to network
speed too it can take a long time to build if on another server. Best
option would be to have a Vantage server with LOTS of free disk space and
build the dynamart overnight right on that server. Probably the way Epicor
assumes it will be done, which is why I figure our issues are self
inflicted.
It's an amazingly powerful tool when it all works well. Looking at it I
would say it is no more difficult to learn than Crystal and for some tasks
far more powerful. Each tool has its niche. Plus there is a CorVu
YahooGroup for real-world help and it seems most of the people on it are
Vantage users who are familiar with the Vantage DB.
-Todd C.
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
d_mollura
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 7:31 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Vantage Business Intelligence
We are contemplating the purchase of VBI and are interested in other
people's experiences (good and bad). We are looking for the increased
robustness in reporting and don't want to have to hire an outside
consultant each time we need a new report.
I recall at Perspectives some negative comments regarding VBI but
can't remember what. Database size, support, customization??? Any
help would be greatly appreciated.
Dan Mollura
Vinyl Technology, Inc.
Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
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already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
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it much because we don't have the resources to make it work. Disk space,
training, etc. It is a very powerful tool. Now that some other issues are
out of the way it will be a hot topic this year. I am looking forward to
making it work for us. Making it work is part of our business plan for this
year.
My advice is do not under estimate the time and training it will take to
learn to use the tool. I had Epicor help me install and set it up to
refresh at night. This is essential in my opinion. We don't have a full
time IT person and setting it up even with help had some ups and downs. It
did work and the Epicor tech was first class.
If you don't make it a priority and devote some serious resources you will
end up with an expensive paper weight.
Sincerely,
Mitchell Kirby
Riten Industries, Inc.
www.riten.com
740-333-8719 Direct
800-338-0027 Sales
800-338-0717 FAX
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Todd Caughey
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:36 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Vantage Business Intelligence
We have had VBI for quite awhile and have never been able to use it. 90%
self inflicted. I am still convinved it will be one of our three major
tools for reporting with 8.0 and the loss of RB. I went to the CorVu
classes (CorBusiness and Administrator) and saqw great potential but have
never been able to implement it here. First reason was an incompatibility
with our, then, NT 4.0 Vantage server and the difficulty locating the
dynamart files on another server. Then when we got that working (we being
me and Epicor consultants) it consumed the entire free space on that server.
As neas as I can tell the VBI data will take 1.5X to 2X the size of the
Vantage DB. So prepare to allow for a lot of extra space. Due to network
speed too it can take a long time to build if on another server. Best
option would be to have a Vantage server with LOTS of free disk space and
build the dynamart overnight right on that server. Probably the way Epicor
assumes it will be done, which is why I figure our issues are self
inflicted.
It's an amazingly powerful tool when it all works well. Looking at it I
would say it is no more difficult to learn than Crystal and for some tasks
far more powerful. Each tool has its niche. Plus there is a CorVu
YahooGroup for real-world help and it seems most of the people on it are
Vantage users who are familiar with the Vantage DB.
-Todd C.
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
d_mollura
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 7:31 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Vantage Business Intelligence
We are contemplating the purchase of VBI and are interested in other
people's experiences (good and bad). We are looking for the increased
robustness in reporting and don't want to have to hire an outside
consultant each time we need a new report.
I recall at Perspectives some negative comments regarding VBI but
can't remember what. Database size, support, customization??? Any
help would be greatly appreciated.
Dan Mollura
Vinyl Technology, Inc.
Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
SPONSORED LINKS
Manufacturing
<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Manufacturing+software&w1=Manufacturing
+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage+software&w4=P
da+database+software&w5=Database+management+software&w6=Database+marketing+s
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
Yahoo! Groups Links