Vantage version 8.03

system · July 13, 2007, 3:15pm

Here's my opinon... it would be a good advancement of your technology.

However, don't approach it lightly. This would be a brand new implementation for you, not a simple upgrade. Be prepared to spend a lot of time and money, if you choose to go this direction. I believe it would pay off in the long run.

We're just past the half-way mark in our implementation. We are new to Vantage. It might be a bit easier for you.

Enjoy your weekend!
Holly R.

----- Original Message ----
From: Jack Lichwa <jack@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 9:29:09 AM
Subject: [Vantage] vantage version 8.03

Hello,

I have question about version V.8.03.

Now we use vantage version 6.1.

Is it good idea change this version to version 8.03 ?

We are manufacturing company, about 100\ people.

I have 45 vantage users in offices and extra 5 collect data stations on
the floor.

Everything works fine, so I don't is good idea upgrade to version 8.0.3.

One thing what is missing in this version is advanced material option.

I heard about problems in version 8.0.3

Thx for opinions.

Jack E. Lichwa
Software Engineer
R. A. Zweig, Inc.

K & A Precision Machining Inc.

2500 Ravine Way
Glenview, IL 60025
847-832-9001- Ext 239
847-730-1518 - Direct
847-832-9019 - Fax

jack@zweig-cnc. com

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system · July 13, 2007, 9:29am

Hello,

I have question about version V.8.03.

Now we use vantage version 6.1.

Is it good idea change this version to version 8.03 ?

We are manufacturing company, about 100\ people.

I have 45 vantage users in offices and extra 5 collect data stations on
the floor.

Everything works fine, so I don't is good idea upgrade to version 8.0.3.

One thing what is missing in this version is advanced material option.

I heard about problems in version 8.0.3

Thx for opinions.

Jack E. Lichwa
Software Engineer
R. A. Zweig, Inc.

K & A Precision Machining Inc.

2500 Ravine Way
Glenview, IL 60025
847-832-9001- Ext 239
847-730-1518 - Direct
847-832-9019 - Fax

jack@...

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system · July 13, 2007, 10:34am

There are many good reasons to switch over, but if you are functioning
well and are happy then go with the old saying. "If it ain't broke,
don't fix it."

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jack Lichwa
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 9:29 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] vantage version 8.03

Hello,

I have question about version V.8.03.

Now we use vantage version 6.1.

Is it good idea change this version to version 8.03 ?

We are manufacturing company, about 100\ people.

I have 45 vantage users in offices and extra 5 collect data stations on
the floor.

Everything works fine, so I don't is good idea upgrade to version 8.0.3.

One thing what is missing in this version is advanced material option.

I heard about problems in version 8.0.3

Thx for opinions.

Jack E. Lichwa
Software Engineer
R. A. Zweig, Inc.

K & A Precision Machining Inc.

2500 Ravine Way
Glenview, IL 60025
847-832-9001- Ext 239
847-730-1518 - Direct
847-832-9019 - Fax

jack@... <mailto:jack%40zweig-cnc.com>

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system · July 13, 2007, 12:12pm

A question we too struggle with...some thoughts & opinions...
1. There are many beneficial looking features and capabilities in 8.x. Only you and your users can decide if these benefits outweigh the considerable cost to upgrade at your particular site. This is not a trivial undertaking and if not done carefully may seriously impact your business.

2. The only good way to determine whether to upgrade is to install it on a test server and deeply evaluate BOTH the changes in "normal" processing and the new capabilities. This last will require a steep learning curve for new things like BPM, BAQs, Dashboards, customizations, etc.... Unless you play with them and understand them how will you know if they will pay back for you?

3. If you have Report Builder reports weigh the time and effort that will be required to convert to Crystal Reports of other reporting method.

4. Inventory the things that 6.1 will not do for you now and how 8.x features might....such as the XML driven exports to Crystal Forms that will make adding fields much easier (or just possible at all). How might this improve your productivity and/or reduce errors and costs?

5. Work closely with your key users to test drive 8.x with both the sample database and YOUR data. Check what conversion issues there might be that could trip up a live conversion. Make sure users are aware of the changes and weigh in on the value.

6. There is a fine line between "if it ain't broke don't fix it" and cautiously progressing to new "enabling" capabilities that can leverage greater performance and growth

7. Look at your current hardware platforms...server, desktop PCs, network, etc... and calaculate required upgrades. 8.x requires some serious horsepower...especially desktop upgrades. This may be costly.

Once you have done the above you will have a better idea of the cost and the potential benefits. Both are large. Only you and your company can weigh the costs and benefits.

One caution...this is NOT a quick process. You can take a year or so to scope it out and convert....or try to do it in a month or two and pay for it for years to come. Possibly seriously disrupting your business and profitability. Whatever process you used to first implement Vantage should probably be repeated for this upgrade. Not just to avoid problems but to assure getting as much benefit as possible.

Just my 2 cents.
-Todd C.

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jack Lichwa
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 8:29 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] vantage version 8.03

Hello,

I have question about version V.8.03.

Now we use vantage version 6.1.

Is it good idea change this version to version 8.03 ?

We are manufacturing company, about 100\ people.

I have 45 vantage users in offices and extra 5 collect data stations on
the floor.

Everything works fine, so I don't is good idea upgrade to version 8.0.3.

One thing what is missing in this version is advanced material option.

I heard about problems in version 8.0.3

Thx for opinions.

Jack E. Lichwa
Software Engineer
R. A. Zweig, Inc.

K & A Precision Machining Inc.

2500 Ravine Way
Glenview, IL 60025
847-832-9001- Ext 239
847-730-1518 - Direct
847-832-9019 - Fax

jack@...<mailto:jack%40zweig-cnc.com>

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system · July 13, 2007, 12:42pm

Hi all,

We are using Vantage 8.03.305H and got problem with printing an Aged
Receivables Report.

The report produces only 1 page of total records with the total amount
only 2 million. In other words, this report in new patch H omitted some
records for some reason.

I have my accounting department checked on this amount on the report and
they told me that the amount should be greater than 8mil.

We are lucky to still have the older patch F to test on this issue and
surely the reports gave us 4 pages with the total amount greater than
8mil.

I also called Epicor tech support on this issue and they are working on
this for more than 3 weeks already.

Does anyone got this same issue? Please give me some advise !

Tri Ha

Hayward Quartz Technology, Inc.

1700 Corporate Way

Fremont, CA 94539

P 510-657-9605 ext.138

F 510-657-6404

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 9:12 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] vantage version 8.03

A question we too struggle with...some thoughts & opinions...
1. There are many beneficial looking features and capabilities in 8.x.
Only you and your users can decide if these benefits outweigh the
considerable cost to upgrade at your particular site. This is not a
trivial undertaking and if not done carefully may seriously impact your
business.

2. The only good way to determine whether to upgrade is to install it on
a test server and deeply evaluate BOTH the changes in "normal"
processing and the new capabilities. This last will require a steep
learning curve for new things like BPM, BAQs, Dashboards,
customizations, etc.... Unless you play with them and understand them
how will you know if they will pay back for you?

3. If you have Report Builder reports weigh the time and effort that
will be required to convert to Crystal Reports of other reporting
method.

4. Inventory the things that 6.1 will not do for you now and how 8.x
features might....such as the XML driven exports to Crystal Forms that
will make adding fields much easier (or just possible at all). How might
this improve your productivity and/or reduce errors and costs?

5. Work closely with your key users to test drive 8.x with both the
sample database and YOUR data. Check what conversion issues there might
be that could trip up a live conversion. Make sure users are aware of
the changes and weigh in on the value.

6. There is a fine line between "if it ain't broke don't fix it" and
cautiously progressing to new "enabling" capabilities that can leverage
greater performance and growth

7. Look at your current hardware platforms...server, desktop PCs,
network, etc... and calaculate required upgrades. 8.x requires some
serious horsepower...especially desktop upgrades. This may be costly.

Once you have done the above you will have a better idea of the cost and
the potential benefits. Both are large. Only you and your company can
weigh the costs and benefits.

One caution...this is NOT a quick process. You can take a year or so to
scope it out and convert....or try to do it in a month or two and pay
for it for years to come. Possibly seriously disrupting your business
and profitability. Whatever process you used to first implement Vantage
should probably be repeated for this upgrade. Not just to avoid problems
but to assure getting as much benefit as possible.

Just my 2 cents.
-Todd C.

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of Jack Lichwa
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 8:29 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] vantage version 8.03

Hello,

I have question about version V.8.03.

Now we use vantage version 6.1.

Is it good idea change this version to version 8.03 ?

We are manufacturing company, about 100\ people.

I have 45 vantage users in offices and extra 5 collect data stations on
the floor.

Everything works fine, so I don't is good idea upgrade to version 8.0.3.

One thing what is missing in this version is advanced material option.

I heard about problems in version 8.0.3

Thx for opinions.

Jack E. Lichwa
Software Engineer
R. A. Zweig, Inc.

K & A Precision Machining Inc.

2500 Ravine Way
Glenview, IL 60025
847-832-9001- Ext 239
847-730-1518 - Direct
847-832-9019 - Fax

jack@... <mailto:jack%40zweig-cnc.com>
<mailto:jack%40zweig-cnc.com>

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