I agree 100% - don't customize if you can at all avoid it. Vantage (especially 6.0 +) has pretty nice screen customization and the reports (Crystal and RB) are easy. The main thing is to not touch the database. With the VB form fields and user fields even the DB is pretty easy to tailor. The key is to be able to painlessly (mostly) upgrade to new versions. Years ago I inherited a highly customized MRP system (ASK's MANMAN) that was so heavily modified (they had the FORTRAN source) that it took over a year to perpetuate the changes to each new release. So they dropped support and took it totally in house, then the hardware vendor (DEC) obsoleted the database on older machines so to get a faster VAX/VMS system they needed the new DB and we were screwed. Ended up putting in a new system entirely.
My rule now is to never touch the DB or business logic of a system and to only tailor "around the edges".
-Todd C.
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From: Ordway, Bruce [mailto:bruceo@...]
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 11:24 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Who have brought the Vantage source code from epico r?
We are currently moving from Dataflo to Vantage.
One of our problems with Dataflo was that we had done so much
customization over the years. We were remaining on a nine year old
release because of the trouble involved with upgrading a heavily
customized installation.
We figured that a new implementation of Vantage wouldn't be too hard
when compared to upgrading our Dataflo.
Needless to say, I'm against source code modifications.
I'm really hoping that the only modifications we'll need to make will
concern forms and reports. I really don't even consider these types of
changes as customizations.
Now I wonder what my fellow Vantage users have done with their software.
Can you tell me if you've customized? And why?
Thanks,
Bruce Ordway
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My rule now is to never touch the DB or business logic of a system and to only tailor "around the edges".
-Todd C.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ordway, Bruce [mailto:bruceo@...]
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 11:24 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Who have brought the Vantage source code from epico r?
>if you want a custom change you have to get it from Epicor<This is kind of an interesting question to me.
We are currently moving from Dataflo to Vantage.
One of our problems with Dataflo was that we had done so much
customization over the years. We were remaining on a nine year old
release because of the trouble involved with upgrading a heavily
customized installation.
We figured that a new implementation of Vantage wouldn't be too hard
when compared to upgrading our Dataflo.
Needless to say, I'm against source code modifications.
I'm really hoping that the only modifications we'll need to make will
concern forms and reports. I really don't even consider these types of
changes as customizations.
Now I wonder what my fellow Vantage users have done with their software.
Can you tell me if you've customized? And why?
Thanks,
Bruce Ordway
Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
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