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-----Original Message-----
From: Debbie Fulgenzi [mailto:fulgenzi@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 8:12 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch


Here is a list of the changes to the W-2' for 2001

1). Increased form width to 8.5"
2). Reformatted employee's name in box e.
3). Enlarged boxes for money amounts, adding shading and dollars signs.
4). Deleted format box 12, "Benefits included in box 1".
5). Reformatted former box 13 (new box 12) for four entries.
6). Deleted "Deceased," "Legal rep.," and "Deferred compensation"
checkboxes
in new box 13 (formerly box 15)
7). Relabeled "Pension plan" checkbox in new box 13 as "Retirement plan"
8). Added a checkbox for "Third-party sick pay" in new box 13.
9). Relocated "Locality name." "Local wages, tips, etc," and "Local income
tax" box (formerly boxes 19-21).

I did this research yesterday in preparation for my year end and thought I
would share it with the rest of you. No sense in all of us reading
through
those IRS documents.

Debbie Fulgenzi
Debron Industrial Electronics

----- Original Message -----
From: "Winter, Patrick" <pjw@...>
To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 5:15 PM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch


> Any Accounting people want to help us here?
> Just a form format change or is there something else?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Sanders [mailto:ssanders@...]
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 4:09 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch
>
>
> Patrick,
>
> One issue is that the name field is split into first and last names each
> with their own block. This alone is no big deal. The sticky issues
revolve
> around blocks 13 to 15 where there have been some changes that are not
so
> straight-forward. I haven't got involved enough yet to figure how
> significant these are but knowing the IRS they can't be making things
> easier!
> ======================
> Steve Sanders
> Delta Centrifugal Corp
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Winter, Patrick [mailto:pjw@...]
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 3:37 PM
> To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch
>
>
> Pardon my ignorance here but isn't the W2 just a crystal form you can
fix
> yourself with Crystal?
>
> Patrick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: johnmemjr@... [mailto:johnmemjr@...]
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 3:08 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch
>
>
> I cannot believe that all of Vantage users have gone right out and
said
> yipee
> 5.0 is out, lets upgrade. It seems like that the same 20 people are
always
> on
> onelist doing the upgrade thing. I agree with the previous comment
that
> the
> learning curve for our company was large for 3.0 and we are finally
> getting
> to the point where it is not costing us money.
>
> I plan on staying on 3.0 for a while but I think it stinks that epicor
is
> screwing us who cannot jump right out and upgrade. We pay our
maintenance
> fees, and bluntly I want an update W2 sheet for my 3.0.
>
> John Memmelaar Jr
> Royal Master Grinders, Inc
> 143 Bauer Drive
> Oakland, NJ 07436
> Phone: 001-201-337-8500
> Fax: 001-201-337-2324
> E-mail: johnjr@...
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Which patch is it that accommodates the 2001 W2 format? I have 5.00.334 and
it's still the same as 2000.


Terry L. Williams I.S. Manager Chipsco, Inc. 9936 Liberty St. Ext.
Meadville, PA 16335 p.8143336331 x236 f.8143372548 tlw@...
www.chipsco.com
This comment is in the .335 patch which became available this weekend:

PR Payroll SCR 2368 5.00.335

W-2 forms for 2001 have been modified to resemeble the 2001 update program.



Troy Funte

Liberty Electronics



----- Original Message -----
From: Terry Williams
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 2:39 PM
Subject: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch


Which patch is it that accommodates the 2001 W2 format? I have 5.00.334 and
it's still the same as 2000.


Terry L. Williams I.S. Manager Chipsco, Inc. 9936 Liberty St. Ext.
Meadville, PA 16335 p.8143336331 x236 f.8143372548 tlw@...
www.chipsco.com



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What about 4.0? Is a patch needed for printing of W2's?

Jim MacMillan
IT Manager
Scientific Dimensions
A Synergy Company
www.sdi.cc
www.synergymfg.com
800-523-6180 x 207

-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Funte [mailto:tfunte@...]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 12:38 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch

This comment is in the .335 patch which became available this weekend:

PR Payroll SCR 2368 5.00.335

W-2 forms for 2001 have been modified to resemeble the 2001 update
program.



Troy Funte

Liberty Electronics



----- Original Message -----
From: Terry Williams
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 2:39 PM
Subject: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch


Which patch is it that accommodates the 2001 W2 format? I have
5.00.334 and
it's still the same as 2000.


Terry L. Williams I.S. Manager Chipsco, Inc. 9936 Liberty St. Ext.
Meadville, PA 16335 p.8143336331 x236 f.8143372548 tlw@...
www.chipsco.com



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Jim,

Last word from EPICOR was that they were not going to provide a patch for V
4.0 to accommodate the W2 changes since their policy is to only provide
updates for the -2- most recent releases of Vantage.

You will have to update to V 5 or V5.1 if you want this support.

If this policy has changed can someone from EPICOR please respond ?

Todd Anderson

-----Original Message-----
From: James MacMillan [mailto:jimmac@...]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 1:45 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch


What about 4.0? Is a patch needed for printing of W2's?

Jim MacMillan
IT Manager
Scientific Dimensions
A Synergy Company
www.sdi.cc
www.synergymfg.com
800-523-6180 x 207

-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Funte [mailto:tfunte@...]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 12:38 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch

This comment is in the .335 patch which became available this weekend:

PR Payroll SCR 2368 5.00.335

W-2 forms for 2001 have been modified to resemeble the 2001 update
program.



Troy Funte

Liberty Electronics



----- Original Message -----
From: Terry Williams
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 2:39 PM
Subject: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch


Which patch is it that accommodates the 2001 W2 format? I have
5.00.334 and
it's still the same as 2000.


Terry L. Williams I.S. Manager Chipsco, Inc. 9936 Liberty St. Ext.
Meadville, PA 16335 p.8143336331 x236 f.8143372548 tlw@...
www.chipsco.com



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Thank you.

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Meadville, PA 16335 p.8143336331 x236 f.8143372548 tlw@...
<mailto:tlw@...> www.chipsco.com <http://www.chipsco.com/>

-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Williams [mailto:tlw@...]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 2:39 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch

Which patch is it that accommodates the 2001 W2 format? I have 5.00.334 and
it's still the same as 2000.


Terry L. Williams I.S. Manager Chipsco, Inc. 9936 Liberty St. Ext.
Meadville, PA 16335 p.8143336331 x236 f.8143372548 tlw@...
www.chipsco.com





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I would appreciate Epicor's response also. What am I to do to print
W-2's if I am still on 4.0???

Jim MacMillan
IT Manager
Scientific Dimensions
A Synergy Company
www.sdi.cc
www.synergymfg.com
800-523-6180 x 207

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 12:45 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch

Jim,

Last word from EPICOR was that they were not going to provide a patch
for V
4.0 to accommodate the W2 changes since their policy is to only provide
updates for the -2- most recent releases of Vantage.

You will have to update to V 5 or V5.1 if you want this support.

If this policy has changed can someone from EPICOR please respond ?

Todd Anderson

-----Original Message-----
From: James MacMillan [mailto:jimmac@...]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 1:45 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch


What about 4.0? Is a patch needed for printing of W2's?

Jim MacMillan
IT Manager
Scientific Dimensions
A Synergy Company
www.sdi.cc
www.synergymfg.com
800-523-6180 x 207

-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Funte [mailto:tfunte@...]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 12:38 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch

This comment is in the .335 patch which became available this weekend:

PR Payroll SCR 2368 5.00.335

W-2 forms for 2001 have been modified to resemeble the 2001 update
program.



Troy Funte

Liberty Electronics



----- Original Message -----
From: Terry Williams
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 2:39 PM
Subject: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch


Which patch is it that accommodates the 2001 W2 format? I have
5.00.334 and
it's still the same as 2000.


Terry L. Williams I.S. Manager Chipsco, Inc. 9936 Liberty St. Ext.
Meadville, PA 16335 p.8143336331 x236 f.8143372548 tlw@...
www.chipsco.com



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The 5.00.335 patch which is now available on the website contains the W2
fixes for 5.00. 5.00 and 5.10 are the only versions that were modified to
handle W2 changes.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: James MacMillan [mailto:jimmac@...]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 2:02 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch


I would appreciate Epicor's response also. What am I to do to print
W-2's if I am still on 4.0???

Jim MacMillan
IT Manager
Scientific Dimensions
A Synergy Company
www.sdi.cc
www.synergymfg.com
800-523-6180 x 207

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 12:45 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch

Jim,

Last word from EPICOR was that they were not going to provide a patch
for V
4.0 to accommodate the W2 changes since their policy is to only provide
updates for the -2- most recent releases of Vantage.

You will have to update to V 5 or V5.1 if you want this support.

If this policy has changed can someone from EPICOR please respond ?

Todd Anderson

-----Original Message-----
From: James MacMillan [mailto:jimmac@...]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 1:45 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch


What about 4.0? Is a patch needed for printing of W2's?

Jim MacMillan
IT Manager
Scientific Dimensions
A Synergy Company
www.sdi.cc
www.synergymfg.com
800-523-6180 x 207

-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Funte [mailto:tfunte@...]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 12:38 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch

This comment is in the .335 patch which became available this weekend:

PR Payroll SCR 2368 5.00.335

W-2 forms for 2001 have been modified to resemeble the 2001 update
program.



Troy Funte

Liberty Electronics



----- Original Message -----
From: Terry Williams
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 2:39 PM
Subject: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch


Which patch is it that accommodates the 2001 W2 format? I have
5.00.334 and
it's still the same as 2000.


Terry L. Williams I.S. Manager Chipsco, Inc. 9936 Liberty St. Ext.
Meadville, PA 16335 p.8143336331 x236 f.8143372548 tlw@...
www.chipsco.com



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<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages>
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Could you also communicate that Vantage Tech Support has a "service pact"
that would allow customers to load 5.0 or 5.1 on the side to print W2's.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Ligas [mailto:tligas@...]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 2:14 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch


The 5.00.335 patch which is now available on the website contains the W2
fixes for 5.00. 5.00 and 5.10 are the only versions that were modified to
handle W2 changes.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: James MacMillan [mailto:jimmac@...]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 2:02 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch


I would appreciate Epicor's response also. What am I to do to print
W-2's if I am still on 4.0???

Jim MacMillan
IT Manager
Scientific Dimensions
A Synergy Company
www.sdi.cc
www.synergymfg.com
800-523-6180 x 207

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 12:45 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch

Jim,

Last word from EPICOR was that they were not going to provide a patch
for V
4.0 to accommodate the W2 changes since their policy is to only provide
updates for the -2- most recent releases of Vantage.

You will have to update to V 5 or V5.1 if you want this support.

If this policy has changed can someone from EPICOR please respond ?

Todd Anderson

-----Original Message-----
From: James MacMillan [mailto:jimmac@...]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 1:45 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch


What about 4.0? Is a patch needed for printing of W2's?

Jim MacMillan
IT Manager
Scientific Dimensions
A Synergy Company
www.sdi.cc
www.synergymfg.com
800-523-6180 x 207

-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Funte [mailto:tfunte@...]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 12:38 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch

This comment is in the .335 patch which became available this weekend:

PR Payroll SCR 2368 5.00.335

W-2 forms for 2001 have been modified to resemeble the 2001 update
program.



Troy Funte

Liberty Electronics



----- Original Message -----
From: Terry Williams
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 2:39 PM
Subject: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch


Which patch is it that accommodates the 2001 W2 format? I have
5.00.334 and
it's still the same as 2000.


Terry L. Williams I.S. Manager Chipsco, Inc. 9936 Liberty St. Ext.
Meadville, PA 16335 p.8143336331 x236 f.8143372548 tlw@...
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My initial reaction is to think long term...start watching the junk mail for
another alternative to Payroll. That way, you won't be required to upgrade
your whole system for IRS issues which will be an annual thing. (Death and
Taxes)

We attempted the 3.0 to 5.1 this weekend (trial run worked). We were able
to only get as far as 4.0, but decided to keep 3.0 as 4.0 didn't solve the
W-2 issue.

As a consumer, I am considering that once we get to 5.1, I'll probably hold
out until 8.0 for another upgrade. I can't be having the 'sorry...only 2
levels back' issue drive my decision to upgrade. To upgrade should be for
reasons of improvements, not because my software is obsolete.




-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Ligas [mailto:tligas@...]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 2:14 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch

The 5.00.335 patch which is now available on the website
contains the W2
fixes for 5.00. 5.00 and 5.10 are the only versions that
were modified to
handle W2 changes.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: James MacMillan [mailto:jimmac@...]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 2:02 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch


I would appreciate Epicor's response also. What am I to do
to print
W-2's if I am still on 4.0???

Jim MacMillan
IT Manager
Scientific Dimensions
A Synergy Company
www.sdi.cc
www.synergymfg.com
800-523-6180 x 207

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 12:45 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch

Jim,

Last word from EPICOR was that they were not going to
provide a patch
for V
4.0 to accommodate the W2 changes since their policy is to
only provide
updates for the -2- most recent releases of Vantage.

You will have to update to V 5 or V5.1 if you want this
support.

If this policy has changed can someone from EPICOR please
respond ?

Todd Anderson

-----Original Message-----
From: James MacMillan [mailto:jimmac@...]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 1:45 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch


What about 4.0? Is a patch needed for printing of W2's?

Jim MacMillan
IT Manager
Scientific Dimensions
A Synergy Company
www.sdi.cc
www.synergymfg.com
800-523-6180 x 207

-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Funte [mailto:tfunte@...]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 12:38 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch

This comment is in the .335 patch which became available
this weekend:

PR Payroll SCR 2368 5.00.335

W-2 forms for 2001 have been modified to resemeble the 2001
update
program.



Troy Funte

Liberty Electronics



----- Original Message -----
From: Terry Williams
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 2:39 PM
Subject: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch


Which patch is it that accommodates the 2001 W2 format? I
have
5.00.334 and
it's still the same as 2000.


Terry L. Williams I.S. Manager Chipsco, Inc. 9936
Liberty St. Ext.
Meadville, PA 16335 p.8143336331 x236 f.8143372548
tlw@...
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I notified Vantage back in August that there was a change to the W-2's. The
patch just came out on Friday-Dec 14th - V5.00.335 (for V5.0 users). But
about a month ago, someone had a form or export or something that would help
the companies that are not getting the W-2 patch (V4 and older). I do
remember a lot of discussion about it at that time, but I do not remember
who was offering the fix. Anyone with a fix for the W-2 problem for the
older versions, please respond.

Debbie Fulgenzi
Debron Industrial Electronics

----- Original Message -----
From: "James MacMillan" <jimmac@...>
To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 3:01 PM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch


> I would appreciate Epicor's response also. What am I to do to print
> W-2's if I am still on 4.0???
>
> Jim MacMillan
> IT Manager
> Scientific Dimensions
> A Synergy Company
> www.sdi.cc
> www.synergymfg.com
> 800-523-6180 x 207
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 12:45 PM
> To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch
>
> Jim,
>
> Last word from EPICOR was that they were not going to provide a patch
> for V
> 4.0 to accommodate the W2 changes since their policy is to only provide
> updates for the -2- most recent releases of Vantage.
>
> You will have to update to V 5 or V5.1 if you want this support.
>
> If this policy has changed can someone from EPICOR please respond ?
>
> Todd Anderson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James MacMillan [mailto:jimmac@...]
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 1:45 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch
>
>
> What about 4.0? Is a patch needed for printing of W2's?
>
> Jim MacMillan
> IT Manager
> Scientific Dimensions
> A Synergy Company
> www.sdi.cc
> www.synergymfg.com
> 800-523-6180 x 207
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Troy Funte [mailto:tfunte@...]
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 12:38 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch
>
> This comment is in the .335 patch which became available this weekend:
>
> PR Payroll SCR 2368 5.00.335
>
> W-2 forms for 2001 have been modified to resemeble the 2001 update
> program.
>
>
>
> Troy Funte
>
> Liberty Electronics
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Terry Williams
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 2:39 PM
> Subject: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch
>
>
> Which patch is it that accommodates the 2001 W2 format? I have
> 5.00.334 and
> it's still the same as 2000.
>
>
> Terry L. Williams I.S. Manager Chipsco, Inc. 9936 Liberty St. Ext.
> Meadville, PA 16335 p.8143336331 x236 f.8143372548 tlw@...
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I cannot believe that all of Vantage users have gone right out and said yipee
5.0 is out, lets upgrade. It seems like that the same 20 people are always on
onelist doing the upgrade thing. I agree with the previous comment that the
learning curve for our company was large for 3.0 and we are finally getting
to the point where it is not costing us money.

I plan on staying on 3.0 for a while but I think it stinks that epicor is
screwing us who cannot jump right out and upgrade. We pay our maintenance
fees, and bluntly I want an update W2 sheet for my 3.0.

John Memmelaar Jr
Royal Master Grinders, Inc
143 Bauer Drive
Oakland, NJ 07436
Phone: 001-201-337-8500
Fax: 001-201-337-2324
E-mail: johnjr@...
I've heard a number of people on past versions of Vantage (4.0 or earlier) share their frustration at not having updates of their W-2's. And while I can understand your frustration and have felt the 'trepidation' of launching to a new version of Vantage (we were on 3.0 just 6 months ago) - I don't feel it's fair to challenge Epicor to support versions of Vantage that are several layers back. I don't see Microsoft supporting Windows 95 anymore and I'm not sure whether they are supporting Win98 anymore. And although we have many workstations using Windows 95 it wouldn't be fair for us to insist that they do so. I doubt there are many software vendors that will continually maintain older versions of their product when they are seeking to improve their current products. It's not a good use of programming resources.

Just trying to bring some balance here.

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics




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I agree very much with the first part. Based on dialog here the upgrade
process seems to be very difficult and full of problems. This, the time
required to put up a test platform on which to educate users on significant
changes plus what appears to be a very long database conversion process
(which requires a long weekend) makes it extremely difficult to jump in and
get done quickly. Calling 5.1 a "new release" for purposes of support just
because it had a few new features they didn't have time to get into 5.0 plus
the bug fixes to 5.0 is a little deceptive. Who is going to stop at 5.0 and
not take advantage of the fixes for it available in 5.1?

I am trying to get to 5.1 as fast as possible but it is going to require a
lot of work and in my case hiring some consultants and right now expenses
like this are frozen. We don't have Payroll (we use ADP) but if we did I
would suggest to Epicor that Custom Programming develop the 4.0 (or 3.0)
forms and "sell" them at a group package price. Maybe $2,000 of work
divided by 40 potential buyers so $50 apiece? They could even turn a
customer alienation nightmare into a bit of revenue without having to
backdown on the two version support "policy". Calling 5.1 a new version is
a bit of dubious semantics in the first place but not being sensitive to
their customer base's situation is suicide. If they are smart they will
backdown and just go ahead and do the forms patch for 4.0.

Pardon the rant.

-Todd Caughey

-----Original Message-----
From: johnmemjr@... [mailto:johnmemjr@...]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 3:08 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch


I cannot believe that all of Vantage users have gone right out and said
yipee
5.0 is out, lets upgrade. It seems like that the same 20 people are always
on
onelist doing the upgrade thing. I agree with the previous comment that the
learning curve for our company was large for 3.0 and we are finally getting
to the point where it is not costing us money.

I plan on staying on 3.0 for a while but I think it stinks that epicor is
screwing us who cannot jump right out and upgrade. We pay our maintenance
fees, and bluntly I want an update W2 sheet for my 3.0.

John Memmelaar Jr
Royal Master Grinders, Inc
143 Bauer Drive
Oakland, NJ 07436
Phone: 001-201-337-8500
Fax: 001-201-337-2324
E-mail: johnjr@...


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Pardon my ignorance here but isn't the W2 just a crystal form you can fix
yourself with Crystal?

Patrick

-----Original Message-----
From: johnmemjr@... [mailto:johnmemjr@...]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 3:08 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch


I cannot believe that all of Vantage users have gone right out and said
yipee
5.0 is out, lets upgrade. It seems like that the same 20 people are always
on
onelist doing the upgrade thing. I agree with the previous comment that the
learning curve for our company was large for 3.0 and we are finally getting
to the point where it is not costing us money.

I plan on staying on 3.0 for a while but I think it stinks that epicor is
screwing us who cannot jump right out and upgrade. We pay our maintenance
fees, and bluntly I want an update W2 sheet for my 3.0.

John Memmelaar Jr
Royal Master Grinders, Inc
143 Bauer Drive
Oakland, NJ 07436
Phone: 001-201-337-8500
Fax: 001-201-337-2324
E-mail: johnjr@...


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Well the balance is really off... The way I see it version 5.0 was not
tested and was released too early. The people flocking to it had problems.
They came out with version 5.1 right away and It's basically a huge patch
for version 5.0 We had such big problems when we went from version 3.0 to
4.0 that we decided to wait on version 5.0 Now we are making plans to go to
version 5.1 after the first of the year... we still have to go through
version 5.0...remember it's junk... before we can get to version 5.1 Epicor
should find a way to get people off the earlier version and make a direct
path to the latest release. I think the upgrade path is making it tough to
get people to the new release. I'm sure they want everyone on the new
release, so make it easier and get what everyone wants. They seem to be
money hounds, so I don't know why they can't get a W2 form for all releases
and charge someone a reasonable amount for it. They might stick a couple of
hundred in their pockets to pay someone to fully test the next release of
Vantage before they start shipping it.

Just my two cents worth.

Paul Lipham
ASPI

-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Funte [mailto:tfunte@...]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 3:20 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch


I've heard a number of people on past versions of Vantage (4.0 or earlier)
share their frustration at not having updates of their W-2's. And while I
can understand your frustration and have felt the 'trepidation' of launching
to a new version of Vantage (we were on 3.0 just 6 months ago) - I don't
feel it's fair to challenge Epicor to support versions of Vantage that are
several layers back. I don't see Microsoft supporting Windows 95 anymore
and I'm not sure whether they are supporting Win98 anymore. And although we
have many workstations using Windows 95 it wouldn't be fair for us to insist
that they do so. I doubt there are many software vendors that will
continually maintain older versions of their product when they are seeking
to improve their current products. It's not a good use of programming
resources.

Just trying to bring some balance here.

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics




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Our Job numbers are currently 5 digits in length. Can I just bump that up
to 6 or 7 without a problem?

Thanks

Jim Carnes
IS Administrator
Kenlee Precision Corp
jcarnes@...
1700 Morrell Park Ave
Baltimore, MD 21230



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Yes, I think the limit is 14.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Carnes [mailto:jcarnes@...]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 4:04 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Job Number Length


Our Job numbers are currently 5 digits in length. Can I just bump that up
to 6 or 7 without a problem?

Thanks

Jim Carnes
IS Administrator
Kenlee Precision Corp
jcarnes@...
1700 Morrell Park Ave
Baltimore, MD 21230



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Patrick,

One issue is that the name field is split into first and last names each
with their own block. This alone is no big deal. The sticky issues revolve
around blocks 13 to 15 where there have been some changes that are not so
straight-forward. I haven't got involved enough yet to figure how
significant these are but knowing the IRS they can't be making things
easier!
======================
Steve Sanders
Delta Centrifugal Corp

-----Original Message-----
From: Winter, Patrick [mailto:pjw@...]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 3:37 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch


Pardon my ignorance here but isn't the W2 just a crystal form you can fix
yourself with Crystal?

Patrick

-----Original Message-----
From: johnmemjr@... [mailto:johnmemjr@...]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 3:08 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch


I cannot believe that all of Vantage users have gone right out and said
yipee
5.0 is out, lets upgrade. It seems like that the same 20 people are always
on
onelist doing the upgrade thing. I agree with the previous comment that
the
learning curve for our company was large for 3.0 and we are finally
getting
to the point where it is not costing us money.

I plan on staying on 3.0 for a while but I think it stinks that epicor is
screwing us who cannot jump right out and upgrade. We pay our maintenance
fees, and bluntly I want an update W2 sheet for my 3.0.

John Memmelaar Jr
Royal Master Grinders, Inc
143 Bauer Drive
Oakland, NJ 07436
Phone: 001-201-337-8500
Fax: 001-201-337-2324
E-mail: johnjr@...


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If you got burned by going to 4.0 so soon why do you want jump to 5.1 in the
first five months of its release. If you go to 5.00.335 now you will find it
very sable bug free. 5.1 is not a big patch but a big enhancement adding AMM
into the core modules.

Patrick Winter

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Lipham [mailto:pml@...]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 3:47 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch


Well the balance is really off... The way I see it version 5.0 was not
tested and was released too early. The people flocking to it had problems.
They came out with version 5.1 right away and It's basically a huge patch
for version 5.0 We had such big problems when we went from version 3.0 to
4.0 that we decided to wait on version 5.0 Now we are making plans to go to
version 5.1 after the first of the year... we still have to go through
version 5.0...remember it's junk... before we can get to version 5.1 Epicor
should find a way to get people off the earlier version and make a direct
path to the latest release. I think the upgrade path is making it tough to
get people to the new release. I'm sure they want everyone on the new
release, so make it easier and get what everyone wants. They seem to be
money hounds, so I don't know why they can't get a W2 form for all releases
and charge someone a reasonable amount for it. They might stick a couple of
hundred in their pockets to pay someone to fully test the next release of
Vantage before they start shipping it.

Just my two cents worth.

Paul Lipham
ASPI

-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Funte [mailto:tfunte@...]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 3:20 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] 5.0 W2 patch


I've heard a number of people on past versions of Vantage (4.0 or earlier)
share their frustration at not having updates of their W-2's. And while I
can understand your frustration and have felt the 'trepidation' of launching
to a new version of Vantage (we were on 3.0 just 6 months ago) - I don't
feel it's fair to challenge Epicor to support versions of Vantage that are
several layers back. I don't see Microsoft supporting Windows 95 anymore
and I'm not sure whether they are supporting Win98 anymore. And although we
have many workstations using Windows 95 it wouldn't be fair for us to insist
that they do so. I doubt there are many software vendors that will
continually maintain older versions of their product when they are seeking
to improve their current products. It's not a good use of programming
resources.

Just trying to bring some balance here.

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics




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