6.1 Advanced Planning and Scheduling

Just two cents...
If APS is an intregal part of your business and you are strongly
considering to upgrade, then V8 is definately not where you want to
go. I would strongly consider 8.03.405x...it has a ton of fixes.
There are still a couple bugs with the 8.03.405x, but nothing like V8
had...not even close.

Thanks
Patty Buechler
UV Color

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Tony Garrity" <tg@...> wrote:
>
> Mercer,
>
> I would be very much interested in finding out about about your 6.1
> APS solution as we are looking to address scheduling issues in 6.1
but
> facing the same issues as everyone else regarding an 'upgrade' to
v8.
>
> Tony
>
>
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "amsisson" <onelist@> wrote:
> >
> > The 6.1 APS module was fatally flawed in its interface with
Vantage
> > and the instability of the associated datafiles. We abandoned it
> > after investing tens of thousands of dollars in training,
consulting
> > and time to no real improvement.
> >
> > I have made some very signficant improvements to 6.1 scheduling
and
> > its associated reporting using ODBC and MS Access. Including, sub-
> > contract operations linked to PO promise dates, automatically
> > constraining job starts to material availability, job-to-job
linking
> > when one job feeds another, semi-automated running of the
schedule,
> > the use of a queryable Intranet based dispatch list complete with
> > drill down, labor overload reporting, automatic adjustment of
> > priorties to reverse direction from backwards to forward when
> > necessary, unlocking jobs scheduled in the past etc...
> >
> > However, I have not tried to improve the basic limitation in 6.1
in
> > that only one resource is restraining, We have handle that by
> > approximating the secondary constraint with shorter machine hours.
> >
> > I am willing to share my Access application and would be happy to
> > discuss it further if anyone would like.
> >
> > Mercer Sisson
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart Noble" <stuart@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hmm, that's bad news, we are investigating moving to 8.03.400
when
> > it
> > > becomes available, but like you by the sounds of it, are
> struggling
> > to
> > > come to grips with the amount of money it looks like costing to
> > upgrade
> > > the quantity of computers for the requirements of V8.
> > >
> > > We need a scheduling package that works better than 6.1, it
will
> be
> > a
> > > shame if once again it seems the only answer from Epicor is to
> move
> > to
> > > the next release, with the costs involved. APS sounded like it
> might
> > > have been the answer. Funny it is now not supported after the
> > release of
> > > V8, this despite their promise to customers to support V6.1 at
the
> > > latest Epicor Perspectives last month here in Australia!
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]
On
> > Behalf
> > > Of Norm Watkins
> > > Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2007 12:00 AM
> > > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: RE: [Vantage] 6.1 Advanced Planning and Scheduling
> > >
> > > I don't expect to hear much/anything. According to Epicor, the
APS
> > > module
> > > was a 3rd party add-on and is no longer supported or available.
> The
> > APS
> > > features were rolled into 8.0 and beyond and I don't expect to
get
> > past
> > > 6.1
> > > at this time due to hardware expense.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%
40yahoogroups.com>
> ]
> > On
> > > Behalf
> > > Of Stuart Noble
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 5:12 PM
> > > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: RE: [Vantage] 6.1 Advanced Planning and Scheduling
> > >
> > > Me too please. Hope you don't see this as a hijack Norm, but I
> would
> > > love to see some really good information come through here.
> > > Will APS take expected delivery date of materials required for
a
> job
> > > into account, instead of assuming they will arrive as per
default
> > lead
> > > time??
> > > Does anyone have any concrete data or documentation on what APS
> > provides
> > > as an extension to scheduling?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%
> > 40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> > > Behalf
> > > Of Norm Watkins
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 29 August 2007 3:02 AM
> > > To: Vantage@Yahoogroups. Com
> > > Subject: [Vantage] 6.1 Advanced Planning and Scheduling
> > >
> > > I'd like to know if anyone is using the Advanced Planning and
> > Scheduling
> > > module in 6.1 and any comments pro/con would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > >
> > > Norm Watkins
> > > Engineering Mgr.
> > > ELECPAC
> > > 847-639-2307
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > > Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note:
You
> > must
> > > have
> > > already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable
access.
> )
> > > (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report
> > Builder
> > > and
> > > Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
> > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
> > > (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages>
> > > (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
> > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links>
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>
I'd like to know if anyone is using the Advanced Planning and Scheduling
module in 6.1 and any comments pro/con would be appreciated.

thanks,

Norm Watkins
Engineering Mgr.
ELECPAC
847-639-2307
Me too please. Hope you don't see this as a hijack Norm, but I would
love to see some really good information come through here.
Will APS take expected delivery date of materials required for a job
into account, instead of assuming they will arrive as per default lead
time??
Does anyone have any concrete data or documentation on what APS provides
as an extension to scheduling?

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Norm Watkins
Sent: Wednesday, 29 August 2007 3:02 AM
To: Vantage@Yahoogroups. Com
Subject: [Vantage] 6.1 Advanced Planning and Scheduling

I'd like to know if anyone is using the Advanced Planning and Scheduling
module in 6.1 and any comments pro/con would be appreciated.

thanks,

Norm Watkins
Engineering Mgr.
ELECPAC
847-639-2307




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
I don't expect to hear much/anything. According to Epicor, the APS module
was a 3rd party add-on and is no longer supported or available. The APS
features were rolled into 8.0 and beyond and I don't expect to get past 6.1
at this time due to hardware expense.

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf
Of Stuart Noble
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 5:12 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] 6.1 Advanced Planning and Scheduling


Me too please. Hope you don't see this as a hijack Norm, but I would
love to see some really good information come through here.
Will APS take expected delivery date of materials required for a job
into account, instead of assuming they will arrive as per default lead
time??
Does anyone have any concrete data or documentation on what APS provides
as an extension to scheduling?

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Norm Watkins
Sent: Wednesday, 29 August 2007 3:02 AM
To: Vantage@Yahoogroups. Com
Subject: [Vantage] 6.1 Advanced Planning and Scheduling

I'd like to know if anyone is using the Advanced Planning and Scheduling
module in 6.1 and any comments pro/con would be appreciated.

thanks,

Norm Watkins
Engineering Mgr.
ELECPAC
847-639-2307




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
Yahoo! Groups Links
Hmm, that's bad news, we are investigating moving to 8.03.400 when it
becomes available, but like you by the sounds of it, are struggling to
come to grips with the amount of money it looks like costing to upgrade
the quantity of computers for the requirements of V8.

We need a scheduling package that works better than 6.1, it will be a
shame if once again it seems the only answer from Epicor is to move to
the next release, with the costs involved. APS sounded like it might
have been the answer. Funny it is now not supported after the release of
V8, this despite their promise to customers to support V6.1 at the
latest Epicor Perspectives last month here in Australia!

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Norm Watkins
Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2007 12:00 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] 6.1 Advanced Planning and Scheduling

I don't expect to hear much/anything. According to Epicor, the APS
module
was a 3rd party add-on and is no longer supported or available. The APS
features were rolled into 8.0 and beyond and I don't expect to get past
6.1
at this time due to hardware expense.

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ]On
Behalf
Of Stuart Noble
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 5:12 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] 6.1 Advanced Planning and Scheduling

Me too please. Hope you don't see this as a hijack Norm, but I would
love to see some really good information come through here.
Will APS take expected delivery date of materials required for a job
into account, instead of assuming they will arrive as per default lead
time??
Does anyone have any concrete data or documentation on what APS provides
as an extension to scheduling?

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Norm Watkins
Sent: Wednesday, 29 August 2007 3:02 AM
To: Vantage@Yahoogroups. Com
Subject: [Vantage] 6.1 Advanced Planning and Scheduling

I'd like to know if anyone is using the Advanced Planning and Scheduling
module in 6.1 and any comments pro/con would be appreciated.

thanks,

Norm Watkins
Engineering Mgr.
ELECPAC
847-639-2307

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages>
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links>
Yahoo! Groups Links



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
The 6.1 APS module was fatally flawed in its interface with Vantage
and the instability of the associated datafiles. We abandoned it
after investing tens of thousands of dollars in training, consulting
and time to no real improvement.

I have made some very signficant improvements to 6.1 scheduling and
its associated reporting using ODBC and MS Access. Including, sub-
contract operations linked to PO promise dates, automatically
constraining job starts to material availability, job-to-job linking
when one job feeds another, semi-automated running of the schedule,
the use of a queryable Intranet based dispatch list complete with
drill down, labor overload reporting, automatic adjustment of
priorties to reverse direction from backwards to forward when
necessary, unlocking jobs scheduled in the past etc...

However, I have not tried to improve the basic limitation in 6.1 in
that only one resource is restraining, We have handle that by
approximating the secondary constraint with shorter machine hours.

I am willing to share my Access application and would be happy to
discuss it further if anyone would like.

Mercer Sisson

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart Noble" <stuart@...> wrote:
>
> Hmm, that's bad news, we are investigating moving to 8.03.400 when
it
> becomes available, but like you by the sounds of it, are struggling
to
> come to grips with the amount of money it looks like costing to
upgrade
> the quantity of computers for the requirements of V8.
>
> We need a scheduling package that works better than 6.1, it will be
a
> shame if once again it seems the only answer from Epicor is to move
to
> the next release, with the costs involved. APS sounded like it might
> have been the answer. Funny it is now not supported after the
release of
> V8, this despite their promise to customers to support V6.1 at the
> latest Epicor Perspectives last month here in Australia!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Norm Watkins
> Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2007 12:00 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] 6.1 Advanced Planning and Scheduling
>
> I don't expect to hear much/anything. According to Epicor, the APS
> module
> was a 3rd party add-on and is no longer supported or available. The
APS
> features were rolled into 8.0 and beyond and I don't expect to get
past
> 6.1
> at this time due to hardware expense.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On
> Behalf
> Of Stuart Noble
> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 5:12 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] 6.1 Advanced Planning and Scheduling
>
> Me too please. Hope you don't see this as a hijack Norm, but I would
> love to see some really good information come through here.
> Will APS take expected delivery date of materials required for a job
> into account, instead of assuming they will arrive as per default
lead
> time??
> Does anyone have any concrete data or documentation on what APS
provides
> as an extension to scheduling?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%
40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf
> Of Norm Watkins
> Sent: Wednesday, 29 August 2007 3:02 AM
> To: Vantage@Yahoogroups. Com
> Subject: [Vantage] 6.1 Advanced Planning and Scheduling
>
> I'd like to know if anyone is using the Advanced Planning and
Scheduling
> module in 6.1 and any comments pro/con would be appreciated.
>
> thanks,
>
> Norm Watkins
> Engineering Mgr.
> ELECPAC
> 847-639-2307
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You
must
> have
> already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report
Builder
> and
> Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
> (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages>
> (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Having the original question about the APS, and finding out from Epicor that
it's no longer supported, I would certainly like to see your Access
application.

thanks,

Norm Watkins

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf
Of amsisson
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 12:54 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: 6.1 Advanced Planning and Scheduling


The 6.1 APS module was fatally flawed in its interface with Vantage
and the instability of the associated datafiles. We abandoned it
after investing tens of thousands of dollars in training, consulting
and time to no real improvement.

I have made some very signficant improvements to 6.1 scheduling and
its associated reporting using ODBC and MS Access. Including, sub-
contract operations linked to PO promise dates, automatically
constraining job starts to material availability, job-to-job linking
when one job feeds another, semi-automated running of the schedule,
the use of a queryable Intranet based dispatch list complete with
drill down, labor overload reporting, automatic adjustment of
priorties to reverse direction from backwards to forward when
necessary, unlocking jobs scheduled in the past etc...

However, I have not tried to improve the basic limitation in 6.1 in
that only one resource is restraining, We have handle that by
approximating the secondary constraint with shorter machine hours.

I am willing to share my Access application and would be happy to
discuss it further if anyone would like.

Mercer Sisson

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart Noble" <stuart@...> wrote:
>
> Hmm, that's bad news, we are investigating moving to 8.03.400 when
it
> becomes available, but like you by the sounds of it, are struggling
to
> come to grips with the amount of money it looks like costing to
upgrade
> the quantity of computers for the requirements of V8.
>
> We need a scheduling package that works better than 6.1, it will be
a
> shame if once again it seems the only answer from Epicor is to move
to
> the next release, with the costs involved. APS sounded like it might
> have been the answer. Funny it is now not supported after the
release of
> V8, this despite their promise to customers to support V6.1 at the
> latest Epicor Perspectives last month here in Australia!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Norm Watkins
> Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2007 12:00 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] 6.1 Advanced Planning and Scheduling
>
> I don't expect to hear much/anything. According to Epicor, the APS
> module
> was a 3rd party add-on and is no longer supported or available. The
APS
> features were rolled into 8.0 and beyond and I don't expect to get
past
> 6.1
> at this time due to hardware expense.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On
> Behalf
> Of Stuart Noble
> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 5:12 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] 6.1 Advanced Planning and Scheduling
>
> Me too please. Hope you don't see this as a hijack Norm, but I would
> love to see some really good information come through here.
> Will APS take expected delivery date of materials required for a job
> into account, instead of assuming they will arrive as per default
lead
> time??
> Does anyone have any concrete data or documentation on what APS
provides
> as an extension to scheduling?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%
40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf
> Of Norm Watkins
> Sent: Wednesday, 29 August 2007 3:02 AM
> To: Vantage@Yahoogroups. Com
> Subject: [Vantage] 6.1 Advanced Planning and Scheduling
>
> I'd like to know if anyone is using the Advanced Planning and
Scheduling
> module in 6.1 and any comments pro/con would be appreciated.
>
> thanks,
>
> Norm Watkins
> Engineering Mgr.
> ELECPAC
> 847-639-2307
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You
must
> have
> already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report
Builder
> and
> Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
> (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages>
> (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>




Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
Yahoo! Groups Links
Mercer,
You certainly have identified several of my perceived shortcomings of
Vantage 6.1 Scheduling.
I would really like to see your access app, how hard is it to integrate
with Vantage, do all the people who want to access the information need
access on their computer?

I take it you no longer use the scheduling boards, and work to your
access reports instead?

Thanks a lot,

Stuart Noble.


-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Norm Watkins
Sent: Saturday, 22 September 2007 6:20 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: 6.1 Advanced Planning and Scheduling

Having the original question about the APS, and finding out from Epicor
that
it's no longer supported, I would certainly like to see your Access
application.

thanks,

Norm Watkins

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ]On
Behalf
Of amsisson
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 12:54 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] Re: 6.1 Advanced Planning and Scheduling

The 6.1 APS module was fatally flawed in its interface with Vantage
and the instability of the associated datafiles. We abandoned it
after investing tens of thousands of dollars in training, consulting
and time to no real improvement.

I have made some very signficant improvements to 6.1 scheduling and
its associated reporting using ODBC and MS Access. Including, sub-
contract operations linked to PO promise dates, automatically
constraining job starts to material availability, job-to-job linking
when one job feeds another, semi-automated running of the schedule,
the use of a queryable Intranet based dispatch list complete with
drill down, labor overload reporting, automatic adjustment of
priorties to reverse direction from backwards to forward when
necessary, unlocking jobs scheduled in the past etc...

However, I have not tried to improve the basic limitation in 6.1 in
that only one resource is restraining, We have handle that by
approximating the secondary constraint with shorter machine hours.

I am willing to share my Access application and would be happy to
discuss it further if anyone would like.

Mercer Sisson

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"Stuart Noble" <stuart@...> wrote:
>
> Hmm, that's bad news, we are investigating moving to 8.03.400 when
it
> becomes available, but like you by the sounds of it, are struggling
to
> come to grips with the amount of money it looks like costing to
upgrade
> the quantity of computers for the requirements of V8.
>
> We need a scheduling package that works better than 6.1, it will be
a
> shame if once again it seems the only answer from Epicor is to move
to
> the next release, with the costs involved. APS sounded like it might
> have been the answer. Funny it is now not supported after the
release of
> V8, this despite their promise to customers to support V6.1 at the
> latest Epicor Perspectives last month here in Australia!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
> Of Norm Watkins
> Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2007 12:00 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] 6.1 Advanced Planning and Scheduling
>
> I don't expect to hear much/anything. According to Epicor, the APS
> module
> was a 3rd party add-on and is no longer supported or available. The
APS
> features were rolled into 8.0 and beyond and I don't expect to get
past
> 6.1
> at this time due to hardware expense.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
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On
> Behalf
> Of Stuart Noble
> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 5:12 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] 6.1 Advanced Planning and Scheduling
>
> Me too please. Hope you don't see this as a hijack Norm, but I would
> love to see some really good information come through here.
> Will APS take expected delivery date of materials required for a job
> into account, instead of assuming they will arrive as per default
lead
> time??
> Does anyone have any concrete data or documentation on what APS
provides
> as an extension to scheduling?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%
40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf
> Of Norm Watkins
> Sent: Wednesday, 29 August 2007 3:02 AM
> To: Vantage@Yahoogroups. Com
> Subject: [Vantage] 6.1 Advanced Planning and Scheduling
>
> I'd like to know if anyone is using the Advanced Planning and
Scheduling
> module in 6.1 and any comments pro/con would be appreciated.
>
> thanks,
>
> Norm Watkins
> Engineering Mgr.
> ELECPAC
> 847-639-2307
>



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Mercer,

I would be very much interested in finding out about about your 6.1
APS solution as we are looking to address scheduling issues in 6.1 but
facing the same issues as everyone else regarding an 'upgrade' to v8.

Tony



--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "amsisson" <onelist@...> wrote:
>
> The 6.1 APS module was fatally flawed in its interface with Vantage
> and the instability of the associated datafiles. We abandoned it
> after investing tens of thousands of dollars in training, consulting
> and time to no real improvement.
>
> I have made some very signficant improvements to 6.1 scheduling and
> its associated reporting using ODBC and MS Access. Including, sub-
> contract operations linked to PO promise dates, automatically
> constraining job starts to material availability, job-to-job linking
> when one job feeds another, semi-automated running of the schedule,
> the use of a queryable Intranet based dispatch list complete with
> drill down, labor overload reporting, automatic adjustment of
> priorties to reverse direction from backwards to forward when
> necessary, unlocking jobs scheduled in the past etc...
>
> However, I have not tried to improve the basic limitation in 6.1 in
> that only one resource is restraining, We have handle that by
> approximating the secondary constraint with shorter machine hours.
>
> I am willing to share my Access application and would be happy to
> discuss it further if anyone would like.
>
> Mercer Sisson
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart Noble" <stuart@> wrote:
> >
> > Hmm, that's bad news, we are investigating moving to 8.03.400 when
> it
> > becomes available, but like you by the sounds of it, are
struggling
> to
> > come to grips with the amount of money it looks like costing to
> upgrade
> > the quantity of computers for the requirements of V8.
> >
> > We need a scheduling package that works better than 6.1, it will
be
> a
> > shame if once again it seems the only answer from Epicor is to
move
> to
> > the next release, with the costs involved. APS sounded like it
might
> > have been the answer. Funny it is now not supported after the
> release of
> > V8, this despite their promise to customers to support V6.1 at the
> > latest Epicor Perspectives last month here in Australia!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf
> > Of Norm Watkins
> > Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2007 12:00 AM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [Vantage] 6.1 Advanced Planning and Scheduling
> >
> > I don't expect to hear much/anything. According to Epicor, the APS
> > module
> > was a 3rd party add-on and is no longer supported or available.
The
> APS
> > features were rolled into 8.0 and beyond and I don't expect to get
> past
> > 6.1
> > at this time due to hardware expense.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
]
> On
> > Behalf
> > Of Stuart Noble
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 5:12 PM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: RE: [Vantage] 6.1 Advanced Planning and Scheduling
> >
> > Me too please. Hope you don't see this as a hijack Norm, but I
would
> > love to see some really good information come through here.
> > Will APS take expected delivery date of materials required for a
job
> > into account, instead of assuming they will arrive as per default
> lead
> > time??
> > Does anyone have any concrete data or documentation on what APS
> provides
> > as an extension to scheduling?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%
> 40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> > Behalf
> > Of Norm Watkins
> > Sent: Wednesday, 29 August 2007 3:02 AM
> > To: Vantage@Yahoogroups. Com
> > Subject: [Vantage] 6.1 Advanced Planning and Scheduling
> >
> > I'd like to know if anyone is using the Advanced Planning and
> Scheduling
> > module in 6.1 and any comments pro/con would be appreciated.
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > Norm Watkins
> > Engineering Mgr.
> > ELECPAC
> > 847-639-2307
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
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