[6.1] Very Small Remote Site

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Todd,
I am not sure about v6, as I am running 8 (so even more recource hoggy than
your situation.
I simply have a laptop with the client installed on it and inside my net I
have a windows 2k machine with VPN enabled. The VPN server is a domain
member, so authentication is through AD.
I simply connect to vpn from laptop and then launch vantage. Works very
well, as long as server and notebook meet std. v 8 reqs and there is a good
pipe into the server, and at client location.

I know someone else mentioned a methodoldgy of emailing pdf files to
themselves over TS.
There is a product called thinprint that makes a print redirector for
printers and scanners. Install is easy, and then TS clients can print to
their local printers without having to worry about installing printers and
drivers on the server, and making sure printer IDS in insall inf files match
across OS versions, etc. Works like a champ.
However, I have not tested this with v8 and crystal engine yet.
Carey


>From: "Todd Caughey" <caugheyt@...>
>Reply-To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
>To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [Vantage] [6.1] Very Small Remote Site
>Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 11:06:21 -0500
>
>I need a little advice from the TS people or others with very small remote
>operations. I have been co-opted from my regular duties to support a new
>startup company one of our owners is creating. Very small operation
>(probably 3 people max to start with) making weatherproof outdoor bars for
>pool/patio/yacht etc.. They want me to set them up in Vantage. Trouble is
>the way they want to do it is flawed in a dozen ways. Idea is to have our
>stamping operation people in Woodbury, MN doing all the Vantage work from
>info faxed and emailed from Homestead, FL.
>
>I can see oodles of ways this will consume too much time up here while
>leaving things in chaos down there. Not good. Much better I think to link
>them to our system up here and run Vantage from one PC down there where
>they have a better idea of what is going on. We can still take orders up
>here and process payments and financials....but let them do their own shop
>related activities.
>
>So....what's the best way to link one remote PC to Vantage? Do I really
>need TS? Can it run on that PC (server and client in one)? Will our T1 at
>this and and a DSL conenction at that end be sufficient? I need to reduce
>costs as much as possible in order to get this to fly and avoid the weak
>fax/email link method from being adopted.
>
>Thanks,
>Todd Caughey
>Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co. (and Paradise Bar Inc. too)
>
>
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I need a little advice from the TS people or others with very small remote operations. I have been co-opted from my regular duties to support a new startup company one of our owners is creating. Very small operation (probably 3 people max to start with) making weatherproof outdoor bars for pool/patio/yacht etc.. They want me to set them up in Vantage. Trouble is the way they want to do it is flawed in a dozen ways. Idea is to have our stamping operation people in Woodbury, MN doing all the Vantage work from info faxed and emailed from Homestead, FL.

I can see oodles of ways this will consume too much time up here while leaving things in chaos down there. Not good. Much better I think to link them to our system up here and run Vantage from one PC down there where they have a better idea of what is going on. We can still take orders up here and process payments and financials....but let them do their own shop related activities.

So....what's the best way to link one remote PC to Vantage? Do I really need TS? Can it run on that PC (server and client in one)? Will our T1 at this and and a DSL conenction at that end be sufficient? I need to reduce costs as much as possible in order to get this to fly and avoid the weak fax/email link method from being adopted.

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co. (and Paradise Bar Inc. too)


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How about setting up a remote desktop help connection. XP BOX to XP BOX
with all the things installed on the local box they need. (Keep in mind
that they will NOT be able to print at their location unless its a screen
print.) I remote from home to work every day to start my morning. Remoting
into the office from home is easy through terminal server. However when I
go from work to home its Remote desktop. If you go that route you will need
one dedicated machine at your location to "serve" their connection. No one
else can work on that machine when remoted in. You'll probably need static
Internet IP addresses at both end.

Shirley Graver
Rubber Associates

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I need a little advice from the TS people or others with very small remote
operations. I have been co-opted from my regular duties to support a new
startup company one of our owners is creating. Very small operation
(probably 3 people max to start with) making weatherproof outdoor bars for
pool/patio/yacht etc.. They want me to set them up in Vantage. Trouble is
the way they want to do it is flawed in a dozen ways. Idea is to have our
stamping operation people in Woodbury, MN doing all the Vantage work from
info faxed and emailed from Homestead, FL.

I can see oodles of ways this will consume too much time up here while
leaving things in chaos down there. Not good. Much better I think to link
them to our system up here and run Vantage from one PC down there where they
have a better idea of what is going on. We can still take orders up here and
process payments and financials....but let them do their own shop related
activities.

So....what's the best way to link one remote PC to Vantage? Do I really need
TS? Can it run on that PC (server and client in one)? Will our T1 at this
and and a DSL conenction at that end be sufficient? I need to reduce costs
as much as possible in order to get this to fly and avoid the weak fax/email
link method from being adopted.

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co. (and Paradise Bar Inc. too)

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Todd,

One remote PC, I would use GoToMyPC to connect one pc remotely to one host
PC at your main plant. GoToMyPC will be about $12 to $16 dollars per month.
When they need something printed. Have your host PC loaded with a fax driver
and fax it to them or Email documents outside of the GoToMyPC connection.
Very simple, cheap and the best part for you, no administrative headaches.
This could all be setup in a couple of hours. You can download and test
GoToMyPC free for 30 days.

Patrick

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Todd Caughey
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 11:06 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] [6.1] Very Small Remote Site



I need a little advice from the TS people or others with very small remote
operations. I have been co-opted from my regular duties to support a new
startup company one of our owners is creating. Very small operation
(probably 3 people max to start with) making weatherproof outdoor bars for
pool/patio/yacht etc.. They want me to set them up in Vantage. Trouble is
the way they want to do it is flawed in a dozen ways. Idea is to have our
stamping operation people in Woodbury, MN doing all the Vantage work from
info faxed and emailed from Homestead, FL.

I can see oodles of ways this will consume too much time up here while
leaving things in chaos down there. Not good. Much better I think to link
them to our system up here and run Vantage from one PC down there where they
have a better idea of what is going on. We can still take orders up here and
process payments and financials....but let them do their own shop related
activities.

So....what's the best way to link one remote PC to Vantage? Do I really need
TS? Can it run on that PC (server and client in one)? Will our T1 at this
and and a DSL conenction at that end be sufficient? I need to reduce costs
as much as possible in order to get this to fly and avoid the weak fax/email
link method from being adopted.

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co. (and Paradise Bar Inc. too)

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Thanks Shirley and Patrick. Remoting might be OK but I would like them to be able to print to a local laser printer. They will need to print a lot of shop related items including POs, travelers and in particular packing slips. Unlike our stamping operation where it's call custom stuff for other manufacturers the product will be shipped as kits of component parts that fit together. So the shipping person will check off the "kits" as they are pulled from stock for a particular order's configuration. Shipping more than one thing to an end consumer is relatively new to us and I want the process airtight.

-Todd C.



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Todd,

One remote PC, I would use GoToMyPC to connect one pc remotely to one host
PC at your main plant. GoToMyPC will be about $12 to $16 dollars per month.
When they need something printed. Have your host PC loaded with a fax driver
and fax it to them or Email documents outside of the GoToMyPC connection.
Very simple, cheap and the best part for you, no administrative headaches.
This could all be setup in a couple of hours. You can download and test
GoToMyPC free for 30 days.

Patrick

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Todd Caughey
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 11:06 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: [Vantage] [6.1] Very Small Remote Site

I need a little advice from the TS people or others with very small remote
operations. I have been co-opted from my regular duties to support a new
startup company one of our owners is creating. Very small operation
(probably 3 people max to start with) making weatherproof outdoor bars for
pool/patio/yacht etc.. They want me to set them up in Vantage. Trouble is
the way they want to do it is flawed in a dozen ways. Idea is to have our
stamping operation people in Woodbury, MN doing all the Vantage work from
info faxed and emailed from Homestead, FL.

I can see oodles of ways this will consume too much time up here while
leaving things in chaos down there. Not good. Much better I think to link
them to our system up here and run Vantage from one PC down there where they
have a better idea of what is going on. We can still take orders up here and
process payments and financials....but let them do their own shop related
activities.

So....what's the best way to link one remote PC to Vantage? Do I really need
TS? Can it run on that PC (server and client in one)? Will our T1 at this
and and a DSL conenction at that end be sufficient? I need to reduce costs
as much as possible in order to get this to fly and avoid the weak fax/email
link method from being adopted.

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co. (and Paradise Bar Inc. too)

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I remote from home and when I am on the road. I don't understand why it
happens, but sometimes TS recognizes a printer attached to the PC I am
using for my remote connection and I am able to print from it. I am an
accountant and not an IT guy so I don't why it happens just sometimes.
I have an ancient portable HP printer that it happens to. But at home
if I want to print something or put it to my local hard drive, I email
it from TS to my home email and print it or access that way. The remote
connection is great except for the printing issue.



Tom Ford
Cost Accountant
Mid-West Spring & Stamping
Phone (574) 353-1673
Fax (574) 353-7359
Visit us at www.mwspring.com

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Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 11:39 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [6.1] Very Small Remote Site



Thanks Shirley and Patrick. Remoting might be OK but I would like them
to be able to print to a local laser printer. They will need to print a
lot of shop related items including POs, travelers and in particular
packing slips. Unlike our stamping operation where it's call custom
stuff for other manufacturers the product will be shipped as kits of
component parts that fit together. So the shipping person will check off
the "kits" as they are pulled from stock for a particular order's
configuration. Shipping more than one thing to an end consumer is
relatively new to us and I want the process airtight.

-Todd C.



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Subject: RE: [Vantage] [6.1] Very Small Remote Site

Todd,

One remote PC, I would use GoToMyPC to connect one pc remotely to one
host
PC at your main plant. GoToMyPC will be about $12 to $16 dollars per
month.
When they need something printed. Have your host PC loaded with a fax
driver
and fax it to them or Email documents outside of the GoToMyPC
connection.
Very simple, cheap and the best part for you, no administrative
headaches.
This could all be setup in a couple of hours. You can download and test
GoToMyPC free for 30 days.

Patrick

_____

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[mailto: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
Behalf Of
Todd Caughey
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 11:06 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: [Vantage] [6.1] Very Small Remote Site

I need a little advice from the TS people or others with very small
remote
operations. I have been co-opted from my regular duties to support a new
startup company one of our owners is creating. Very small operation
(probably 3 people max to start with) making weatherproof outdoor bars
for
pool/patio/yacht etc.. They want me to set them up in Vantage. Trouble
is
the way they want to do it is flawed in a dozen ways. Idea is to have
our
stamping operation people in Woodbury, MN doing all the Vantage work
from
info faxed and emailed from Homestead, FL.

I can see oodles of ways this will consume too much time up here while
leaving things in chaos down there. Not good. Much better I think to
link
them to our system up here and run Vantage from one PC down there where
they
have a better idea of what is going on. We can still take orders up here
and
process payments and financials....but let them do their own shop
related
activities.

So....what's the best way to link one remote PC to Vantage? Do I really
need
TS? Can it run on that PC (server and client in one)? Will our T1 at
this
and and a DSL conenction at that end be sufficient? I need to reduce
costs
as much as possible in order to get this to fly and avoid the weak
fax/email
link method from being adopted.

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co. (and Paradise Bar Inc. too)

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Todd,

GoToMyPC allows for remote printing. They have a doco online about how to
setup the local printer redirect driver. It works reasonably well. The
nice part about GoToMyPC is that you can set it up for almost no investment
today and then simply discontinue the service should the remote office grow
to support a non-subscription service.

Happy 4th!

Michael

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Todd Caughey
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 9:39 AM
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Subject: RE: [Vantage] [6.1] Very Small Remote Site



Thanks Shirley and Patrick. Remoting might be OK but I would like them to be
able to print to a local laser printer. They will need to print a lot of
shop related items including POs, travelers and in particular packing slips.
Unlike our stamping operation where it's call custom stuff for other
manufacturers the product will be shipped as kits of component parts that
fit together. So the shipping person will check off the "kits" as they are
pulled from stock for a particular order's configuration. Shipping more than
one thing to an end consumer is relatively new to us and I want the process
airtight.

-Todd C.



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Subject: RE: [Vantage] [6.1] Very Small Remote Site

Todd,

One remote PC, I would use GoToMyPC to connect one pc remotely to one host
PC at your main plant. GoToMyPC will be about $12 to $16 dollars per month.
When they need something printed. Have your host PC loaded with a fax driver
and fax it to them or Email documents outside of the GoToMyPC connection.
Very simple, cheap and the best part for you, no administrative headaches.
This could all be setup in a couple of hours. You can download and test
GoToMyPC free for 30 days.

Patrick

_____

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vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On Behalf Of
Todd Caughey
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 11:06 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: [Vantage] [6.1] Very Small Remote Site

I need a little advice from the TS people or others with very small remote
operations. I have been co-opted from my regular duties to support a new
startup company one of our owners is creating. Very small operation
(probably 3 people max to start with) making weatherproof outdoor bars for
pool/patio/yacht etc.. They want me to set them up in Vantage. Trouble is
the way they want to do it is flawed in a dozen ways. Idea is to have our
stamping operation people in Woodbury, MN doing all the Vantage work from
info faxed and emailed from Homestead, FL.

I can see oodles of ways this will consume too much time up here while
leaving things in chaos down there. Not good. Much better I think to link
them to our system up here and run Vantage from one PC down there where they
have a better idea of what is going on. We can still take orders up here and
process payments and financials....but let them do their own shop related
activities.

So....what's the best way to link one remote PC to Vantage? Do I really need
TS? Can it run on that PC (server and client in one)? Will our T1 at this
and and a DSL conenction at that end be sufficient? I need to reduce costs
as much as possible in order to get this to fly and avoid the weak fax/email
link method from being adopted.

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co. (and Paradise Bar Inc. too)

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Hey Todd;



We have a similar situation with our accounting done at a remote office in
NY and our Plant is in PA.



In time we will do the T1 line, but it's hard to justify when we have just
one person learning Vantage. As we do more sales functions and set up
additional workstations for accounting we will need to spend $.



We first tried our broad band internet connection, but its way (way, way,
way) too slow. Our IT person thought to use Remote Desktop Connection. He
cleaned it up to make logging on/off user friendly and prevents the server
being accidentally shut down. We just started playing with this option and
it (so far) works really well. We have almost the same response time with an
additional 95 miles in between the server and work station!



Chuck Andrews

Iridium Industries, Inc.

One Forge Road

E. Stroudsburg, PA 18301

570-476-8800 Ext 14

Controller@...

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Todd Caughey
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 12:06 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] [6.1] Very Small Remote Site



I need a little advice from the TS people or others with very small remote
operations. I have been co-opted from my regular duties to support a new
startup company one of our owners is creating. Very small operation
(probably 3 people max to start with) making weatherproof outdoor bars for
pool/patio/yacht etc.. They want me to set them up in Vantage. Trouble is
the way they want to do it is flawed in a dozen ways. Idea is to have our
stamping operation people in Woodbury, MN doing all the Vantage work from
info faxed and emailed from Homestead, FL.

I can see oodles of ways this will consume too much time up here while
leaving things in chaos down there. Not good. Much better I think to link
them to our system up here and run Vantage from one PC down there where they
have a better idea of what is going on. We can still take orders up here and
process payments and financials....but let them do their own shop related
activities.

So....what's the best way to link one remote PC to Vantage? Do I really need
TS? Can it run on that PC (server and client in one)? Will our T1 at this
and and a DSL conenction at that end be sufficient? I need to reduce costs
as much as possible in order to get this to fly and avoid the weak fax/email
link method from being adopted.

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co. (and Paradise Bar Inc. too)

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for TS the printer driver has to be installed on the client and the
server in addition sometimes permissions on the server can be an issue.


Innovative Office Products, Inc.
Frank Zeigafuse
General Manager
610-559-6369
fzeigafuse@...

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Ford
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 1:26 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [6.1] Very Small Remote Site



I remote from home and when I am on the road. I don't understand
why it
happens, but sometimes TS recognizes a printer attached to the
PC I am
using for my remote connection and I am able to print from it. I
am an
accountant and not an IT guy so I don't why it happens just
sometimes.
I have an ancient portable HP printer that it happens to. But at
home
if I want to print something or put it to my local hard drive, I
email
it from TS to my home email and print it or access that way. The
remote
connection is great except for the printing issue.

Tom Ford
Cost Accountant
Mid-West Spring & Stamping
Phone (574) 353-1673
Fax (574) 353-7359
Visit us at www.mwspring.com

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[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 11:39 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [6.1] Very Small Remote Site

Thanks Shirley and Patrick. Remoting might be OK but I would
like them
to be able to print to a local laser printer. They will need to
print a
lot of shop related items including POs, travelers and in
particular
packing slips. Unlike our stamping operation where it's call
custom
stuff for other manufacturers the product will be shipped as
kits of
component parts that fit together. So the shipping person will
check off
the "kits" as they are pulled from stock for a particular
order's
configuration. Shipping more than one thing to an end consumer
is
relatively new to us and I want the process airtight.

-Todd C.

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Subject: RE: [Vantage] [6.1] Very Small Remote Site

Todd,

One remote PC, I would use GoToMyPC to connect one pc remotely
to one
host
PC at your main plant. GoToMyPC will be about $12 to $16 dollars
per
month.
When they need something printed. Have your host PC loaded with
a fax
driver
and fax it to them or Email documents outside of the GoToMyPC
connection.
Very simple, cheap and the best part for you, no administrative
headaches.
This could all be setup in a couple of hours. You can download
and test
GoToMyPC free for 30 days.

Patrick

_____

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.com
[mailto: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
.com] On
Behalf Of
Todd Caughey
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 11:06 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: [Vantage] [6.1] Very Small Remote Site

I need a little advice from the TS people or others with very
small
remote
operations. I have been co-opted from my regular duties to
support a new
startup company one of our owners is creating. Very small
operation
(probably 3 people max to start with) making weatherproof
outdoor bars
for
pool/patio/yacht etc.. They want me to set them up in Vantage.
Trouble
is
the way they want to do it is flawed in a dozen ways. Idea is to
have
our
stamping operation people in Woodbury, MN doing all the Vantage
work
from
info faxed and emailed from Homestead, FL.

I can see oodles of ways this will consume too much time up here
while
leaving things in chaos down there. Not good. Much better I
think to
link
them to our system up here and run Vantage from one PC down
there where
they
have a better idea of what is going on. We can still take orders
up here
and
process payments and financials....but let them do their own
shop
related
activities.

So....what's the best way to link one remote PC to Vantage? Do I
really
need
TS? Can it run on that PC (server and client in one)? Will our
T1 at
this
and and a DSL conenction at that end be sufficient? I need to
reduce
costs
as much as possible in order to get this to fly and avoid the
weak
fax/email
link method from being adopted.

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co. (and Paradise Bar Inc. too)

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We have been using TS (Win2k server) for 2 years now for Vantage. I use
win2k because if you use Win2k Pro or XP Pro on the client, there are no
licensing fees for TS. We have a location in Belgium using DSL for 4
people now. We had a location in Germany where the two at that office
used dialup! In California there are about 10 using Vantage through a
point to point T-1. I also have a user in New Orleans using DSL. (We are
based in Cincinnati)



For CA, Belgium, and New Orleans, they use network printers. I have a
network to network VPN running on the DSL connection and only need a
static IP on the Cincinnati end. For the others, they print to PDF and
mail the PDFs to themselves. We use PDF4U.



As far as enable the mapping of remote printers, this rarely works well.
Too many printers are dynamically added to Terminal server, and the
users get confused on which ones they should be using. If you decide to
do it this way, just install the same printer you have hooked up to the
client on the Terminal Server through LPT1 or whatever, then delete it
(but when it asks to delete the drivers say no). Terminal Server must
have the drivers for the client printers installed locally.



I have used Terminal Server since NT 4.0 days. Windows 2000 Server was a
major step up and works really well for relatively low cost.





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513-831-3211 ext. 308

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Chuck Andrews
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 1:43 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [6.1] Very Small Remote Site



Hey Todd;

We have a similar situation with our accounting done at a remote office
in
NY and our Plant is in PA.

In time we will do the T1 line, but it's hard to justify when we have
just
one person learning Vantage. As we do more sales functions and set up
additional workstations for accounting we will need to spend $.

We first tried our broad band internet connection, but its way (way,
way,
way) too slow. Our IT person thought to use Remote Desktop Connection.
He
cleaned it up to make logging on/off user friendly and prevents the
server
being accidentally shut down. We just started playing with this option
and
it (so far) works really well. We have almost the same response time
with an
additional 95 miles in between the server and work station!

Chuck Andrews

Iridium Industries, Inc.

One Forge Road

E. Stroudsburg, PA 18301

570-476-8800 Ext 14

Controller@... <mailto:Controller%40Artube.net>

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of
Todd Caughey
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 12:06 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] [6.1] Very Small Remote Site

I need a little advice from the TS people or others with very small
remote
operations. I have been co-opted from my regular duties to support a new
startup company one of our owners is creating. Very small operation
(probably 3 people max to start with) making weatherproof outdoor bars
for
pool/patio/yacht etc.. They want me to set them up in Vantage. Trouble
is
the way they want to do it is flawed in a dozen ways. Idea is to have
our
stamping operation people in Woodbury, MN doing all the Vantage work
from
info faxed and emailed from Homestead, FL.

I can see oodles of ways this will consume too much time up here while
leaving things in chaos down there. Not good. Much better I think to
link
them to our system up here and run Vantage from one PC down there where
they
have a better idea of what is going on. We can still take orders up here
and
process payments and financials....but let them do their own shop
related
activities.

So....what's the best way to link one remote PC to Vantage? Do I really
need
TS? Can it run on that PC (server and client in one)? Will our T1 at
this
and and a DSL conenction at that end be sufficient? I need to reduce
costs
as much as possible in order to get this to fly and avoid the weak
fax/email
link method from being adopted.

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co. (and Paradise Bar Inc. too)

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Indeed! Remote Desktop Connection made to a server works nicely (at
least on Server 2003...don't know about 2000).

There are 2 "Administrative" remote connections allowed without
having to install Terminal Services. The account connecting needn't
be an administrator. They just need to be added to (made a member
of) the 'Remote Desktop Users' group.

-Daniel Toffolo
Frank Roth Co., Inc.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Chuck Andrews" <controller@...>
wrote:
>
> Hey Todd;
>
>
>
> We have a similar situation with our accounting done at a remote
office in
> NY and our Plant is in PA.
>
>
>
> In time we will do the T1 line, but it's hard to justify when we
have just
> one person learning Vantage. As we do more sales functions and set
up
> additional workstations for accounting we will need to spend $.
>
>
>
> We first tried our broad band internet connection, but its way
(way, way,
> way) too slow. Our IT person thought to use Remote Desktop
Connection. He
> cleaned it up to make logging on/off user friendly and prevents the
server
> being accidentally shut down. We just started playing with this
option and
> it (so far) works really well. We have almost the same response
time with an
> additional 95 miles in between the server and work station!
>
>
>
> Chuck Andrews
>
12
> There are 2 "Administrative" remote connections allowed without
> having to install Terminal Services. The account connecting needn't
> be an administrator. They just need to be added to (made a member
> of) the 'Remote Desktop Users' group.

...of the machine that you're connecting to and not in the domain. Important
distinction. I usually create a security group in the domain and then add that
domain to the local security of the machine accepting the remote connections.

Mark W.