I would agree with this my summary
Great long term potential but give it a few months maybe quarters
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From: Susan Iverson [mailto:siverson@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 12:45 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Anyone care to weigh in on "V8" you learned from
Perspectives?
I.e., POSITIVES VS. NEGATIVES regarding Sonoma. I have quite a few on my
list. To start ...
Positives:
Dashboard 100 times better than in 6.1
Crystal 10 uses XML
Engineering Workbench allows you to add more than one option at a time
(materials, operations)
Customization far superior to 6.1 and will cut down on reliance of
Epicor and other consultants to create modifications for you
User defined tables will be available in V8 (but not the Progress Code)
"Customization" features (for lack of better words to use) used
throughout program in Dashboard and in Product Configurator
Heard that Epicor has 80 developers working on problems
Negatives:
SLOW - Example: Purchase Order took to count of "33" to open (Form
Loading ....and loading ....and loading ....and loading)
Product Configurator "appears" to be more difficult to use (need to look
into this some more)
Saw error messages throughout all labs that stifled commentators
Interface very different than 6.1
No one is "live" yet with Sonoma
(personally) - too many installation problems and data conversion
problems from 6.1 to V8
MUST UPGRADE to Progress 10.0 (OpenEdge) and Crystal 10.0
Do any of you have anything to add or comment on that attended
Perspectives or are a Beta user?
All in all Perspectives paid for itself. We will probably not go live
with V8 now based its problems but really, really look forward to using
it in the future when they have worked everything out. It's very, very
cool.
Sue
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Great long term potential but give it a few months maybe quarters
-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Iverson [mailto:siverson@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 12:45 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Anyone care to weigh in on "V8" you learned from
Perspectives?
I.e., POSITIVES VS. NEGATIVES regarding Sonoma. I have quite a few on my
list. To start ...
Positives:
Dashboard 100 times better than in 6.1
Crystal 10 uses XML
Engineering Workbench allows you to add more than one option at a time
(materials, operations)
Customization far superior to 6.1 and will cut down on reliance of
Epicor and other consultants to create modifications for you
User defined tables will be available in V8 (but not the Progress Code)
"Customization" features (for lack of better words to use) used
throughout program in Dashboard and in Product Configurator
Heard that Epicor has 80 developers working on problems
Negatives:
SLOW - Example: Purchase Order took to count of "33" to open (Form
Loading ....and loading ....and loading ....and loading)
Product Configurator "appears" to be more difficult to use (need to look
into this some more)
Saw error messages throughout all labs that stifled commentators
Interface very different than 6.1
No one is "live" yet with Sonoma
(personally) - too many installation problems and data conversion
problems from 6.1 to V8
MUST UPGRADE to Progress 10.0 (OpenEdge) and Crystal 10.0
Do any of you have anything to add or comment on that attended
Perspectives or are a Beta user?
All in all Perspectives paid for itself. We will probably not go live
with V8 now based its problems but really, really look forward to using
it in the future when they have worked everything out. It's very, very
cool.
Sue
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