Backflushing

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I hope I'm wrong and you find a solution but...

My experience has been that backflushing can drive inventory negative.
It does not look for onhand material.

I tried to get this quoted as a customization from Epicor a couple of years ago. At that time they said they didn't have a good way to modify this in 8.03.409C.

I haven't pursued it since then.
I just set up an end of day report to find any of these negative quantities.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Simon" <simstrak@...> wrote:
>
> I am on Epicor 9.05.605, and we have AMM installed.
>
>
>
> Here's my problem. I have an operation (which is assigned a resource) where
> I need to backflush multiple parts from different bins. For this operation,
> some parts are being maintained on the line (which is set up as a bin), but
> other parts are kepts in our stores area (in one or more bins there).
>
>
>
> When this operation is complete, it appears to be going to the resource
> record, getting the backflush bin, and backflushing those parts out of that
> bin, regardless of whether there's inventory there or not. I thought AMM
> was designed to use a hierarchy, where it's looking for parts on hand, in
> order to backflush out of that bin. In fact, I've got a tech tip from
> Epicor that gave me that hierarchy. However, it's not functioning like as
> the document specifies, so I put in a support call.
>
>
>
> This morning, I got something from tech support that said: "The system is
> going to look first to the Resource Group setup
>
> If you have a Backflush Resource group setup on the resource group the
> system will create the backflush transaction from this Warehouse/bin even if
> there is no On hand quantity available". This flies in the face of the
> whole hierarchy concept.
>
>
>
> Does anyone else have their system configured so it can backflush from a
> hierarchy, and it takes into account whether there's anything on hand?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>
>
> Kevin Simon
>
> SimsTrak Consulting
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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We do not backflush but for some reason, one of our parts is setup to backflush after the first operation. When ever we make a job, the first material is checked for backflushing.

Where is this setting? How do I change this setting so that future jobs are not setup for backflushing?

Thanks,
Jasper




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Part Maintenance / under Inv/Purch button.

M. Manasa Reddy
ERP Systems Specialist
Crestview Aerospace Corporation
Email: mmreddy@...
Phone: (850) 682-2746 x 272


-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Jasper Recto
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 7:49 AM
To: Vantage Groups (E-mail)
Subject: [Vantage] Backflushing


We do not backflush but for some reason, one of our parts
is setup to backflush after the first operation. When ever
we make a job, the first material is checked for
backflushing.

Where is this setting? How do I change this setting so
that future jobs are not setup for backflushing?

Thanks,
Jasper




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THANKS!
Jasper

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Subject: RE: [Vantage] Backflushing


Part Maintenance / under Inv/Purch button.

M. Manasa Reddy
ERP Systems Specialist
Crestview Aerospace Corporation
Email: mmreddy@...
Phone: (850) 682-2746 x 272


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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Jasper Recto
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 7:49 AM
To: Vantage Groups (E-mail)
Subject: [Vantage] Backflushing


We do not backflush but for some reason, one of our parts
is setup to backflush after the first operation. When ever
we make a job, the first material is checked for
backflushing.

Where is this setting? How do I change this setting so
that future jobs are not setup for backflushing?

Thanks,
Jasper




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Is backflush after first operation, because as a material is linked to the first operation.
If you do not want this material to be backflush at all you have to change settings for that material in a Part Master, Inv/Purch unmark settings for backflush.
(in that case, material will not be backflush at all, even if is used in other jobs)
If you want that material to be backflush in your job, just after diferent operation you have to change setting in a job - for that material change Related Operation
Jasper Recto <jrecto@...> wrote:
We do not backflush but for some reason, one of our parts is setup to backflush after the first operation. When ever we make a job, the first material is checked for backflushing.

Where is this setting? How do I change this setting so that future jobs are not setup for backflushing?

Thanks,
Jasper




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We are contemplating using backflushing on serveral parts. What are the advantages and pitfalls of using backflushing? How is it triggered?

Thanks,

Jasper



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Jasper,
You can not backflush a serially or lot tracked item.
Backflushing should be used in short-term manufacturing. If you backflush
items over a manufacturing cycle that is not short term, it is highly likely
that your counts will be off.

Backflushing is tied to the operation. We made the mistake of thinking that
Vantage "rolled up" components when a parent item was "made" or shipped, but
this is not the case. It is flushed when the operation to which the material
is "assigned" in the MOM is reported. Also, if you are trying to flush
between warehouses, you will need AMM.

Other potential shortcomings to backflushing are more a function of
discipline, such as deciding whether a part will always or sometimes need to
be backflushed. Also, make sure that you do not change the backflush flag on
the part/plant tab when jobs exist in the system.

Carey

>From: "Jasper Recto" <jrecto@...>
>Reply-To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
>To: "Vantage Groups (E-mail)" <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [Vantage] Backflushing
>Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 10:27:23 -0500
>
>We are contemplating using backflushing on serveral parts. What are the
>advantages and pitfalls of using backflushing? How is it triggered?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jasper
>
>
>
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Carey,

Why would backflushing from the operation be a short coming? I can
understand why it would be in some circumstances but not all. In
certain manufacturing environments backflushing is the only practical
way to collate costs from the shop floor over a short or long
manufacturing period.

I would say where possible the aim should be to minimise backflushing
but there are environments where it is necesary. In these , variances
on the standard should be monitored.


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Carey S" <rotary1@...> wrote:
>
>
> Jasper,
> You can not backflush a serially or lot tracked item.
> Backflushing should be used in short-term manufacturing. If you
backflush
> items over a manufacturing cycle that is not short term, it is
highly likely
> that your counts will be off.
>
> Backflushing is tied to the operation. We made the mistake of
thinking that
> Vantage "rolled up" components when a parent item was "made" or
shipped, but
> this is not the case. It is flushed when the operation to which the
material
> is "assigned" in the MOM is reported. Also, if you are trying to
flush
> between warehouses, you will need AMM.
>
> Other potential shortcomings to backflushing are more a function of
> discipline, such as deciding whether a part will always or
sometimes need to
> be backflushed. Also, make sure that you do not change the
backflush flag on
> the part/plant tab when jobs exist in the system.
>
> Carey
>
> >From: "Jasper Recto" <jrecto@...>
> >Reply-To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> >To: "Vantage Groups (E-mail)" <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
> >Subject: [Vantage] Backflushing
> >Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 10:27:23 -0500
> >
> >We are contemplating using backflushing on serveral parts. What
are the
> >advantages and pitfalls of using backflushing? How is it
triggered?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Jasper
> >
> >
> >
> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
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Oh, I agree.
In my looking at some other systems however, parts were "flushed" as a
result of being contained in a parent and that relationship was enough.
The operation is not a "shortcoming"... just not known as a requirement to
everyone who might be coming from other systems.
Carey


>From: "brychanwilliams" <brychanw@...>
>Reply-To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
>To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Vantage] Re: Backflushing
>Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 16:35:17 -0000
>
>Carey,
>
>Why would backflushing from the operation be a short coming? I can
>understand why it would be in some circumstances but not all. In
>certain manufacturing environments backflushing is the only practical
>way to collate costs from the shop floor over a short or long
>manufacturing period.
>
>I would say where possible the aim should be to minimise backflushing
>but there are environments where it is necesary. In these , variances
>on the standard should be monitored.
>
>
>--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Carey S" <rotary1@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Jasper,
> > You can not backflush a serially or lot tracked item.
> > Backflushing should be used in short-term manufacturing. If you
>backflush
> > items over a manufacturing cycle that is not short term, it is
>highly likely
> > that your counts will be off.
> >
> > Backflushing is tied to the operation. We made the mistake of
>thinking that
> > Vantage "rolled up" components when a parent item was "made" or
>shipped, but
> > this is not the case. It is flushed when the operation to which the
>material
> > is "assigned" in the MOM is reported. Also, if you are trying to
>flush
> > between warehouses, you will need AMM.
> >
> > Other potential shortcomings to backflushing are more a function of
> > discipline, such as deciding whether a part will always or
>sometimes need to
> > be backflushed. Also, make sure that you do not change the
>backflush flag on
> > the part/plant tab when jobs exist in the system.
> >
> > Carey
> >
> > >From: "Jasper Recto" <jrecto@...>
> > >Reply-To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > >To: "Vantage Groups (E-mail)" <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
> > >Subject: [Vantage] Backflushing
> > >Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 10:27:23 -0500
> > >
> > >We are contemplating using backflushing on serveral parts. What
>are the
> > >advantages and pitfalls of using backflushing? How is it
>triggered?
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >
> > >Jasper
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
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We have experience count issues as well. One work around we
implemented was to insert a "collection" operation in which the
employee physically pulls the parts off the shelf. This obviously
won't work if you are not using a pod or station type manufacturing.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "brychanwilliams" <brychanw@...>
wrote:
>
> Carey,
>
> Why would backflushing from the operation be a short coming? I can
> understand why it would be in some circumstances but not all. In
> certain manufacturing environments backflushing is the only
practical
> way to collate costs from the shop floor over a short or long
> manufacturing period.
>
> I would say where possible the aim should be to minimise
backflushing
> but there are environments where it is necesary. In these ,
variances
> on the standard should be monitored.
>
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Carey S" <rotary1@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Jasper,
> > You can not backflush a serially or lot tracked item.
> > Backflushing should be used in short-term manufacturing. If you
> backflush
> > items over a manufacturing cycle that is not short term, it is
> highly likely
> > that your counts will be off.
> >
> > Backflushing is tied to the operation. We made the mistake of
> thinking that
> > Vantage "rolled up" components when a parent item was "made" or
> shipped, but
> > this is not the case. It is flushed when the operation to which
the
> material
> > is "assigned" in the MOM is reported. Also, if you are trying to
> flush
> > between warehouses, you will need AMM.
> >
> > Other potential shortcomings to backflushing are more a function
of
> > discipline, such as deciding whether a part will always or
> sometimes need to
> > be backflushed. Also, make sure that you do not change the
> backflush flag on
> > the part/plant tab when jobs exist in the system.
> >
> > Carey
> >
> > >From: "Jasper Recto" <jrecto@>
> > >Reply-To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > >To: "Vantage Groups (E-mail)" <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
> > >Subject: [Vantage] Backflushing
> > >Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 10:27:23 -0500
> > >
> > >We are contemplating using backflushing on serveral parts.
What
> are the
> > >advantages and pitfalls of using backflushing? How is it
> triggered?
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >
> > >Jasper
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
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Does the act of 'Backflushing' relieve inventory or is it just for
cost purposes? Could we backflush the first operation and have it
automatically issue the material for that job?

Is this possible or not in the realm of backflushing?

Thanks,
Jasper




--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Carey S" <rotary1@...> wrote:
>
> Oh, I agree.
> In my looking at some other systems however, parts were "flushed"
as a
> result of being contained in a parent and that relationship was
enough.
> The operation is not a "shortcoming"... just not known as a
requirement to
> everyone who might be coming from other systems.
> Carey
>
>
> >From: "brychanwilliams" <brychanw@...>
> >Reply-To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> >To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [Vantage] Re: Backflushing
> >Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 16:35:17 -0000
> >
> >Carey,
> >
> >Why would backflushing from the operation be a short coming? I can
> >understand why it would be in some circumstances but not all. In
> >certain manufacturing environments backflushing is the only
practical
> >way to collate costs from the shop floor over a short or long
> >manufacturing period.
> >
> >I would say where possible the aim should be to minimise
backflushing
> >but there are environments where it is necesary. In these ,
variances
> >on the standard should be monitored.
> >
> >
> >--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Carey S" <rotary1@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Jasper,
> > > You can not backflush a serially or lot tracked item.
> > > Backflushing should be used in short-term manufacturing. If you
> >backflush
> > > items over a manufacturing cycle that is not short term, it is
> >highly likely
> > > that your counts will be off.
> > >
> > > Backflushing is tied to the operation. We made the mistake of
> >thinking that
> > > Vantage "rolled up" components when a parent item was "made" or
> >shipped, but
> > > this is not the case. It is flushed when the operation to which
the
> >material
> > > is "assigned" in the MOM is reported. Also, if you are trying to
> >flush
> > > between warehouses, you will need AMM.
> > >
> > > Other potential shortcomings to backflushing are more a
function of
> > > discipline, such as deciding whether a part will always or
> >sometimes need to
> > > be backflushed. Also, make sure that you do not change the
> >backflush flag on
> > > the part/plant tab when jobs exist in the system.
> > >
> > > Carey
> > >
> > > >From: "Jasper Recto" <jrecto@>
> > > >Reply-To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > > >To: "Vantage Groups (E-mail)" <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
> > > >Subject: [Vantage] Backflushing
> > > >Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 10:27:23 -0500
> > > >
> > > >We are contemplating using backflushing on serveral parts.
What
> >are the
> > > >advantages and pitfalls of using backflushing? How is it
> >triggered?
> > > >
> > > >Thanks,
> > > >
> > > >Jasper
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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Yes inventory is relieved.



If the parts are marked as back flush in the inv/purch and tied to a an
operation - when the operation get complete for xx quantity the parts
are issued to the job and relieved from inventory.



Bob



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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of locper99
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 9:49 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Backflushing



Does the act of 'Backflushing' relieve inventory or is it just for
cost purposes? Could we backflush the first operation and have it
automatically issue the material for that job?

Is this possible or not in the realm of backflushing?

Thanks,
Jasper

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"Carey S" <rotary1@...> wrote:
>
> Oh, I agree.
> In my looking at some other systems however, parts were "flushed"
as a
> result of being contained in a parent and that relationship was
enough.
> The operation is not a "shortcoming"... just not known as a
requirement to
> everyone who might be coming from other systems.
> Carey
>
>
> >From: "brychanwilliams" <brychanw@...>
> >Reply-To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> >To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> >Subject: [Vantage] Re: Backflushing
> >Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 16:35:17 -0000
> >
> >Carey,
> >
> >Why would backflushing from the operation be a short coming? I can
> >understand why it would be in some circumstances but not all. In
> >certain manufacturing environments backflushing is the only
practical
> >way to collate costs from the shop floor over a short or long
> >manufacturing period.
> >
> >I would say where possible the aim should be to minimise
backflushing
> >but there are environments where it is necesary. In these ,
variances
> >on the standard should be monitored.
> >
> >
> >--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"Carey S" <rotary1@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Jasper,
> > > You can not backflush a serially or lot tracked item.
> > > Backflushing should be used in short-term manufacturing. If you
> >backflush
> > > items over a manufacturing cycle that is not short term, it is
> >highly likely
> > > that your counts will be off.
> > >
> > > Backflushing is tied to the operation. We made the mistake of
> >thinking that
> > > Vantage "rolled up" components when a parent item was "made" or
> >shipped, but
> > > this is not the case. It is flushed when the operation to which
the
> >material
> > > is "assigned" in the MOM is reported. Also, if you are trying to
> >flush
> > > between warehouses, you will need AMM.
> > >
> > > Other potential shortcomings to backflushing are more a
function of
> > > discipline, such as deciding whether a part will always or
> >sometimes need to
> > > be backflushed. Also, make sure that you do not change the
> >backflush flag on
> > > the part/plant tab when jobs exist in the system.
> > >
> > > Carey
> > >
> > > >From: "Jasper Recto" <jrecto@>
> > > >Reply-To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > >To: "Vantage Groups (E-mail)" <vantage@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> >
> > > >Subject: [Vantage] Backflushing
> > > >Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 10:27:23 -0500
> > > >
> > > >We are contemplating using backflushing on serveral parts.
What
> >are the
> > > >advantages and pitfalls of using backflushing? How is it
> >triggered?
> > > >
> > > >Thanks,
> > > >
> > > >Jasper
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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It does relieve inventory but only at standard.

This is possible, I have done this in the past. With op 20
backflushing material related to op 20, the labour on op 10 and the
material op 10.

The caution with this is to ensure that they happen, in reality, very
close together, otherwise your weekly stats will be out, if this is a
problem to you.

I would recommend a test. This would need to test the backflushing
and the capture of the costs and qtys.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "locper99" <jrecto@...> wrote:
>
> Does the act of 'Backflushing' relieve inventory or is it just for
> cost purposes? Could we backflush the first operation and have it
> automatically issue the material for that job?
>
> Is this possible or not in the realm of backflushing?
>
> Thanks,
> Jasper
>
>
>
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Carey S" <rotary1@> wrote:
> >
> > Oh, I agree.
> > In my looking at some other systems however, parts were "flushed"
> as a
> > result of being contained in a parent and that relationship was
> enough.
> > The operation is not a "shortcoming"... just not known as a
> requirement to
> > everyone who might be coming from other systems.
> > Carey
> >
> >
> > >From: "brychanwilliams" <brychanw@>
> > >Reply-To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > >To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: [Vantage] Re: Backflushing
> > >Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 16:35:17 -0000
> > >
> > >Carey,
> > >
> > >Why would backflushing from the operation be a short coming? I
can
> > >understand why it would be in some circumstances but not all. In
> > >certain manufacturing environments backflushing is the only
> practical
> > >way to collate costs from the shop floor over a short or long
> > >manufacturing period.
> > >
> > >I would say where possible the aim should be to minimise
> backflushing
> > >but there are environments where it is necesary. In these ,
> variances
> > >on the standard should be monitored.
> > >
> > >
> > >--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Carey S" <rotary1@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jasper,
> > > > You can not backflush a serially or lot tracked item.
> > > > Backflushing should be used in short-term manufacturing. If
you
> > >backflush
> > > > items over a manufacturing cycle that is not short term, it is
> > >highly likely
> > > > that your counts will be off.
> > > >
> > > > Backflushing is tied to the operation. We made the mistake of
> > >thinking that
> > > > Vantage "rolled up" components when a parent item was "made"
or
> > >shipped, but
> > > > this is not the case. It is flushed when the operation to
which
> the
> > >material
> > > > is "assigned" in the MOM is reported. Also, if you are trying
to
> > >flush
> > > > between warehouses, you will need AMM.
> > > >
> > > > Other potential shortcomings to backflushing are more a
> function of
> > > > discipline, such as deciding whether a part will always or
> > >sometimes need to
> > > > be backflushed. Also, make sure that you do not change the
> > >backflush flag on
> > > > the part/plant tab when jobs exist in the system.
> > > >
> > > > Carey
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Jasper Recto" <jrecto@>
> > > > >Reply-To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > > > >To: "Vantage Groups (E-mail)" <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > >Subject: [Vantage] Backflushing
> > > > >Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 10:27:23 -0500
> > > > >
> > > > >We are contemplating using backflushing on serveral parts.
> What
> > >are the
> > > > >advantages and pitfalls of using backflushing? How is it
> > >triggered?
> > > > >
> > > > >Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > >Jasper
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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With regard to backflushing, will Vantage only backflush the required qty of materials for that Job? Meaning, On a Job I have an Opr for 100 units and I actually turn in 110 units. Will backflushing only relieve the equivalent of qty 100?

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Vantage 8.03.409C

With the setup I have always used (backflush based on labor reporting against the related operation) it will backflush the equivalent to the quantity that is completed on that operation (110 gets you 110).

I believe there may be other triggers or setup to get what you want.

Jeff

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Vic Drecchio" <vic.drecchio@...> wrote:
>
> With regard to backflushing, will Vantage only backflush the required qty of materials for that Job? Meaning, On a Job I have an Opr for 100 units and I actually turn in 110 units. Will backflushing only relieve the equivalent of qty 100?
>
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>
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I am on Epicor 9.05.605, and we have AMM installed.



Here's my problem. I have an operation (which is assigned a resource) where
I need to backflush multiple parts from different bins. For this operation,
some parts are being maintained on the line (which is set up as a bin), but
other parts are kepts in our stores area (in one or more bins there).



When this operation is complete, it appears to be going to the resource
record, getting the backflush bin, and backflushing those parts out of that
bin, regardless of whether there's inventory there or not. I thought AMM
was designed to use a hierarchy, where it's looking for parts on hand, in
order to backflush out of that bin. In fact, I've got a tech tip from
Epicor that gave me that hierarchy. However, it's not functioning like as
the document specifies, so I put in a support call.



This morning, I got something from tech support that said: "The system is
going to look first to the Resource Group setup

If you have a Backflush Resource group setup on the resource group the
system will create the backflush transaction from this Warehouse/bin even if
there is no On hand quantity available". This flies in the face of the
whole hierarchy concept.



Does anyone else have their system configured so it can backflush from a
hierarchy, and it takes into account whether there's anything on hand?



Thanks in advance,



Kevin Simon

SimsTrak Consulting









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