Thanks for the heads-up on the strategy angle. I guess the next step is to
find out how much more licenses would be. I hope they are not expecting 5
to be worth $10,000 ($2K a seat). I was figuring five concurrent would be
about four more than we need so even with growth we may stay below their
"radar". If we get hooked and it really is valuable enough to us to justify
the cost for more licenses then we can decide then. If it is too much we'll
look for an alternative. Right now I want the basic reporting features and
it is a year or two away before we have any sort of intranet or web serving.
By "gotchas" I was refering to reports not working with Vantage or problems
with the old report distribution facility. But the license thing was a good
point to know.
-Todd C.
-----Original Message-----
From: it@... [mailto:it@...]
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 3:55 AM
To: Vantage Mailing List
Subject: [Vantage]
Todd,
by 'gotchas', you mean good things or bad things...?!
well, I've done a little reading on 8.5 and decided not to go with this one.
The reason is that the Web Component Server of v8 is now "Crystal
Enterprise" in 8.5 - something that requires workstation licenses (you get
Enterprise Standard free with v8.5, with 5 concurrent licenses).
According to some of the Crystal Decisions marketing material, this bundle
of Crystal Enterprise with Reports 8.5 is "$10,000 of software".... so it
looks like they're trying to make a lot of money out of their web
distribution system in the future, by hooking us all in now.
For that reason I'm staying with 8, as there are no licensing issues for the
Web system and it works very well. I would like some of the new features,
but I'm not going to get caught into perhaps having to fork out thousands
for extra licenses.
I'd recommend you download the documentation yourself from the Crystal
Decisions website - www.crystaldecisions.net, and I'd also appreciate more
users' insight into this.
Anton Wilson,
Systems Analyst,
Deanestor Healthcare
www.deanestor.co.uk
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:37:44 -0600
From: Todd Caughey <caugheyt@...>
Subject: Crystal 8.5
I just received Crystal Reports 8.5 as a subscription upgrade. Just curious
whether someone else might have received it earlier and tried it. Looks
like some nice features including interactive reports (with parameter
prompts) and more output formats (XML, RTF and Excel). If anyone knows of
any gotchas, especially related to Vantage please advise. I am especially
concerned about compatibility with the report distribution facility they are
moving away from.
Thanks,
-Todd C.
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find out how much more licenses would be. I hope they are not expecting 5
to be worth $10,000 ($2K a seat). I was figuring five concurrent would be
about four more than we need so even with growth we may stay below their
"radar". If we get hooked and it really is valuable enough to us to justify
the cost for more licenses then we can decide then. If it is too much we'll
look for an alternative. Right now I want the basic reporting features and
it is a year or two away before we have any sort of intranet or web serving.
By "gotchas" I was refering to reports not working with Vantage or problems
with the old report distribution facility. But the license thing was a good
point to know.
-Todd C.
-----Original Message-----
From: it@... [mailto:it@...]
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 3:55 AM
To: Vantage Mailing List
Subject: [Vantage]
Todd,
by 'gotchas', you mean good things or bad things...?!
well, I've done a little reading on 8.5 and decided not to go with this one.
The reason is that the Web Component Server of v8 is now "Crystal
Enterprise" in 8.5 - something that requires workstation licenses (you get
Enterprise Standard free with v8.5, with 5 concurrent licenses).
According to some of the Crystal Decisions marketing material, this bundle
of Crystal Enterprise with Reports 8.5 is "$10,000 of software".... so it
looks like they're trying to make a lot of money out of their web
distribution system in the future, by hooking us all in now.
For that reason I'm staying with 8, as there are no licensing issues for the
Web system and it works very well. I would like some of the new features,
but I'm not going to get caught into perhaps having to fork out thousands
for extra licenses.
I'd recommend you download the documentation yourself from the Crystal
Decisions website - www.crystaldecisions.net, and I'd also appreciate more
users' insight into this.
Anton Wilson,
Systems Analyst,
Deanestor Healthcare
www.deanestor.co.uk
-------------------------------------------
Message: 9
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:37:44 -0600
From: Todd Caughey <caugheyt@...>
Subject: Crystal 8.5
I just received Crystal Reports 8.5 as a subscription upgrade. Just curious
whether someone else might have received it earlier and tried it. Looks
like some nice features including interactive reports (with parameter
prompts) and more output formats (XML, RTF and Excel). If anyone knows of
any gotchas, especially related to Vantage please advise. I am especially
concerned about compatibility with the report distribution facility they are
moving away from.
Thanks,
-Todd C.
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.
Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
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