At a company I was at previously, we converted to Vantage in January, 1996
(and we think we have problems now!). We also decided to re-enter our
"mountain" of data-the cost of conversion was very high and we wanted to
eliminate a lot of accumulated "junk" as well as make some major changes in
customer and vendor numbering and in our raw material numbering scheme.
This was labor-intense, but it was extremely beneficial in the long run-we
started with our database looking like we wanted it to look-then junked it
up all new! Because of the extreme differences in the field sizes and types
of characters available in different fields between Classic and Vantage,
this was really an easy decision for us-and we had been classic users for at
least 4 years.
Lydia
Canyon Engineering Products, Inc.
-----Original Message-----
From: Diane Rowberry [mailto:diane.rowberry@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 8:40 AM
To: vantage@egroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] RE: Classic to Vantage
We chose not to do the data conversion when we went from Classic to Vantage
two years ago. At that time they had only done a couple conversions and the
cost was VERY prohibiting for our small company so we bit the bullet and
started from scratch. We printed everything that we could from Classic -
all the stored methods, vendor lists, customer lists, etc. There was a
mountain of data entry, but starting from scratch gave us the ability to
change the things we did not like in our data from Classic. Looking back in
retrospect, I think we would choose to go this same route again.
Diane Rowberry
Westwood Precision
www.westwoodprecision.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 7:25 AM
To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] RE: Classic to Vantage
We converted 9/1/2000. But to be fair we did throw a curve or two.
Although we pre-loaded many of the master files they were loaded with the
same codes as in Classic so they should have linked. But the Classic data
was 12 years old and full of garbage. I would agree very much with the
suggestion to clean out Classic data. We eliminated over half of the
customers and 2/3rds of the parts and methods and ran every clean or purge
routine we could. Perhaps we went overboard and this left some dangling
references but we used the regular Classic routines so this should have
cleaned everything up. We also skipped conversion of all SO's, Jobs and
Quotes and are ramping up with Vantage was we phase out the old Classic
jobs. Since job history would not come over anyway we would be starting
cleaning regardless and we have all the SO info in paper bundles. So it was
probably not the typical conversion.
The basic procedure they use is:
1. Special backup for conversion (CONVBACK) on a tape they send you.
2. If you have some Vantage data copy .DB files to zip disk or CD
3. Send to Epicor
4. Wait a week or so and prepare to answer lots of questions about how to
handle exceptions
5. They send a CD back with converted database
We actually did it twice and revealed the purchasing suggestions check box
issue in our conference room pilot.
-Todd C.
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Zywiec [mailto:ezywiec@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 8:22 AM
To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] RE: Classic to Vantage
Rhonda,
You should get the dates of everyone's conversion. We converted the last
week of Dec. 1998 and it was a disaster. I'm sure they learned a lot from
us and hopefully they got better at it.
We no longer allow attachments to files. To access/share Report Files,
please go to the following link: http://www.egroups.com/files/vantage/
(Note: If this link does not work for you the first time you try it, go to
www.egroups.com, login and be sure to save your password, choose My Groups,
choose Vantage, then choose Files. If you save the password, the link above
will work the next time you try it.)
(and we think we have problems now!). We also decided to re-enter our
"mountain" of data-the cost of conversion was very high and we wanted to
eliminate a lot of accumulated "junk" as well as make some major changes in
customer and vendor numbering and in our raw material numbering scheme.
This was labor-intense, but it was extremely beneficial in the long run-we
started with our database looking like we wanted it to look-then junked it
up all new! Because of the extreme differences in the field sizes and types
of characters available in different fields between Classic and Vantage,
this was really an easy decision for us-and we had been classic users for at
least 4 years.
Lydia
Canyon Engineering Products, Inc.
-----Original Message-----
From: Diane Rowberry [mailto:diane.rowberry@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 8:40 AM
To: vantage@egroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] RE: Classic to Vantage
We chose not to do the data conversion when we went from Classic to Vantage
two years ago. At that time they had only done a couple conversions and the
cost was VERY prohibiting for our small company so we bit the bullet and
started from scratch. We printed everything that we could from Classic -
all the stored methods, vendor lists, customer lists, etc. There was a
mountain of data entry, but starting from scratch gave us the ability to
change the things we did not like in our data from Classic. Looking back in
retrospect, I think we would choose to go this same route again.
Diane Rowberry
Westwood Precision
www.westwoodprecision.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 7:25 AM
To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] RE: Classic to Vantage
We converted 9/1/2000. But to be fair we did throw a curve or two.
Although we pre-loaded many of the master files they were loaded with the
same codes as in Classic so they should have linked. But the Classic data
was 12 years old and full of garbage. I would agree very much with the
suggestion to clean out Classic data. We eliminated over half of the
customers and 2/3rds of the parts and methods and ran every clean or purge
routine we could. Perhaps we went overboard and this left some dangling
references but we used the regular Classic routines so this should have
cleaned everything up. We also skipped conversion of all SO's, Jobs and
Quotes and are ramping up with Vantage was we phase out the old Classic
jobs. Since job history would not come over anyway we would be starting
cleaning regardless and we have all the SO info in paper bundles. So it was
probably not the typical conversion.
The basic procedure they use is:
1. Special backup for conversion (CONVBACK) on a tape they send you.
2. If you have some Vantage data copy .DB files to zip disk or CD
3. Send to Epicor
4. Wait a week or so and prepare to answer lots of questions about how to
handle exceptions
5. They send a CD back with converted database
We actually did it twice and revealed the purchasing suggestions check box
issue in our conference room pilot.
-Todd C.
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Zywiec [mailto:ezywiec@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 8:22 AM
To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] RE: Classic to Vantage
Rhonda,
You should get the dates of everyone's conversion. We converted the last
week of Dec. 1998 and it was a disaster. I'm sure they learned a lot from
us and hopefully they got better at it.
We no longer allow attachments to files. To access/share Report Files,
please go to the following link: http://www.egroups.com/files/vantage/
(Note: If this link does not work for you the first time you try it, go to
www.egroups.com, login and be sure to save your password, choose My Groups,
choose Vantage, then choose Files. If you save the password, the link above
will work the next time you try it.)