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system · March 19, 2009, 2:15pm

I am glad my checking account doesn't work that way. I voided on last week
and I don't want a zero balance. J

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Julie Lehmann
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:15 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count

Rob,
Even back in 6.1, voiding the tag zeros out the quantity of the part.
Here's what help says:
Voiding a tag and then posting the count adjusts the on-hand inventory to
zero. This results in subsequent orders not being able to see the stock,
among other things. Make sure that this is really what you want to do.

If we don't have time to count everything, we enter the quantity that
Vantage thinks is there and then keep the list to count those parts the next
day.
We never use "void" after finding that out years ago. I agree with your
logic (it should simply exclude it from being considered), but it doesn't
work that way.

Julie
Mercury Minnesota Inc.

----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Brown
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count

Excuse me but NO (at least thru 405A & every other system I've ever used).

When you void a tag it is a mechanism to EXCLUDE it from the update (and yet
let you be assured all tags are accounted for).

If it's not working like that for you, please tell me what version(s) you
are on so I can avoid them like the plague. (Seriously!)

-------

ABC basis: Help file is pretty good in describing the tiers avaiable,

Min Unit COst for Prt to qualify for A, B or C.

?Last 30 days? - can't remember - Receipt + Issue combined total cost (flow
- In & Out) history tiers.

Best thing to do is do a ?30 day? dump of your part trans records into excel
and summarize the cost flow total over that time (per part).

Then rank by top $'s decending and select the min $ tiers for A B C (using
the old APICS 5/15/80 or 10/20/70 % rules).

Similarly, look at unit costs decending to come up with the secondary unit
cost tier rules for ABC.

Don't get to braod with each or your results will be heavily biased to A and
be 'top heavy'.

Rob

--- On Thu, 3/19/09, gclauser <gclauser@...
<mailto:gclauser%40ameritech.net> > wrote:

From: gclauser <gclauser@... <mailto:gclauser%40ameritech.net> >
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 8:40 AM

That's the way it's supposed to work. Tags are printed for parts that are
supposed to have a balance. If you void the tag you're telling Vantage that
you could not find the parts.

----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Hughes
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count

Someone posted some formulas to help calculate what you should enter in the
ABC Code setup screen to help you cycle through all your parts in the course
of a year. Does anyone remember? I search the old posts for "cycle count abc
code" and so on, but cannot find it...

Thank you!

____________ _________ _________ __
From: thughes281 <thughes281@yahoo. com>
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:24:23 PM
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count

When I Void the tag, it unfortunately does just the opposite.
It zeroed the inventory out, posting an ADJ-INV transaction for a negative
of what the countexp

Is this a bug, or the way it is supposed to work?
Did I do it wrong?

I entered the tag in Count Entry, then clicked the Void button to the right
of it.

How do you safely void a tag you don't want to count, or can't count that
day?
Void as in, leaves inventory as it was, and removes the tag from teh count
set so I don't have to enter anything?

--- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, "Charles Carden" <shadowcar1449@ ...>
wrote:
>
> You will have to void all of the other tags to keep those parts from being
set to zero during the posting process. Don't just mark them as returned as
this will indicate a zero count. This would be a tedious process as you must
confirm for every tag you void. Also, once voided, always voided.
>
> Cycle counting was designed to select parts based on the ABC code settings
or to be used for a full inventory count. There is no method to let you
select only the parts you want to count. In fact, if you attempt to select
parts manually you are only able to select one part at a time using the
search function. Also, a paste insert will not work in the list view either.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tony Hughes
> To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 8:54 AM
> Subject: [Vantage] Cycle count
>
>
> What happens if you start a Full Cycle Count, but only ever enter some of
the parts?
>
> Say, I want to do only a subset of my bins, but I don't have the bins set
up as Warehouses. So, I run a Full and only enter values for the bins I
count.
>
> What effect does this have?
>
> Thank you, this is our first Full Cycle count in Vtg 8.x, so hopefully
this question isn't too stupid :-D
>
> TOny
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system · October 7, 2008, 9:54am

What happens if you start a Full Cycle Count, but only ever enter some of the parts?

Say, I want to do only a subset of my bins, but I don't have the bins set up as Warehouses. So, I run a Full and only enter values for the bins I count.

What effect does this have?

Thank you, this is our first Full Cycle count in Vtg 8.x, so hopefully this question isn't too stupid :-D

TOny

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system · October 7, 2008, 12:48pm

At that point you risk OHQs for parts to be reduced to zero. But it would want you to mark these tags as returned before posting the group.

To: vantage@yahoogroups.comFrom: thughes281@...: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 06:54:11 -0700Subject: [Vantage] Cycle count

What happens if you start a Full Cycle Count, but only ever enter some of the parts? Say, I want to do only a subset of my bins, but I don't have the bins set up as Warehouses. So, I run a Full and only enter values for the bins I count. What effect does this have? Thank you, this is our first Full Cycle count in Vtg 8.x, so hopefully this question isn't too stupid :-DTOny[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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system · October 7, 2008, 3:24pm

You will have to void all of the other tags to keep those parts from being set to zero during the posting process. Don't just mark them as returned as this will indicate a zero count. This would be a tedious process as you must confirm for every tag you void. Also, once voided, always voided.

Cycle counting was designed to select parts based on the ABC code settings or to be used for a full inventory count. There is no method to let you select only the parts you want to count. In fact, if you attempt to select parts manually you are only able to select one part at a time using the search function. Also, a paste insert will not work in the list view either.

----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Hughes
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 8:54 AM
Subject: [Vantage] Cycle count

What happens if you start a Full Cycle Count, but only ever enter some of the parts?

Say, I want to do only a subset of my bins, but I don't have the bins set up as Warehouses. So, I run a Full and only enter values for the bins I count.

What effect does this have?

Thank you, this is our first Full Cycle count in Vtg 8.x, so hopefully this question isn't too stupid :-D

TOny

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system · March 18, 2009, 10:24pm

When I Void the tag, it unfortunately does just the opposite.
It zeroed the inventory out, posting an ADJ-INV transaction for a negative of what the countexp

Is this a bug, or the way it is supposed to work?
Did I do it wrong?

I entered the tag in Count Entry, then clicked the Void button to the right of it.

How do you safely void a tag you don't want to count, or can't count that day?
Void as in, leaves inventory as it was, and removes the tag from teh count set so I don't have to enter anything?

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Charles Carden" <shadowcar1449@...> wrote:
>
> You will have to void all of the other tags to keep those parts from being set to zero during the posting process. Don't just mark them as returned as this will indicate a zero count. This would be a tedious process as you must confirm for every tag you void. Also, once voided, always voided.
>
> Cycle counting was designed to select parts based on the ABC code settings or to be used for a full inventory count. There is no method to let you select only the parts you want to count. In fact, if you attempt to select parts manually you are only able to select one part at a time using the search function. Also, a paste insert will not work in the list view either.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tony Hughes
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 8:54 AM
> Subject: [Vantage] Cycle count
>
>
> What happens if you start a Full Cycle Count, but only ever enter some of the parts?
>
> Say, I want to do only a subset of my bins, but I don't have the bins set up as Warehouses. So, I run a Full and only enter values for the bins I count.
>
> What effect does this have?
>
> Thank you, this is our first Full Cycle count in Vtg 8.x, so hopefully this question isn't too stupid :-D
>
> TOny
>
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system · March 18, 2009, 10:28pm

Someone posted some formulas to help calculate what you should enter in the ABC Code setup screen to help you cycle through all your parts in the course of a year. Does anyone remember? I search the old posts for "cycle count abc code" and so on, but cannot find it...

Thank you!

________________________________
From: thughes281 <thughes281@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:24:23 PM
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count

When I Void the tag, it unfortunately does just the opposite.
It zeroed the inventory out, posting an ADJ-INV transaction for a negative of what the countexp

Is this a bug, or the way it is supposed to work?
Did I do it wrong?

I entered the tag in Count Entry, then clicked the Void button to the right of it.

How do you safely void a tag you don't want to count, or can't count that day?
Void as in, leaves inventory as it was, and removes the tag from teh count set so I don't have to enter anything?

--- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, "Charles Carden" <shadowcar1449@ ...> wrote:
>
> You will have to void all of the other tags to keep those parts from being set to zero during the posting process. Don't just mark them as returned as this will indicate a zero count. This would be a tedious process as you must confirm for every tag you void. Also, once voided, always voided.
>
> Cycle counting was designed to select parts based on the ABC code settings or to be used for a full inventory count. There is no method to let you select only the parts you want to count. In fact, if you attempt to select parts manually you are only able to select one part at a time using the search function. Also, a paste insert will not work in the list view either.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tony Hughes
> To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 8:54 AM
> Subject: [Vantage] Cycle count
>
>
> What happens if you start a Full Cycle Count, but only ever enter some of the parts?
>
> Say, I want to do only a subset of my bins, but I don't have the bins set up as Warehouses. So, I run a Full and only enter values for the bins I count.
>
> What effect does this have?
>
> Thank you, this is our first Full Cycle count in Vtg 8.x, so hopefully this question isn't too stupid :-D
>
> TOny
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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system · March 19, 2009, 8:44am

That's the way it's supposed to work. Tags are printed for parts that are supposed to have a balance. If you void the tag you're telling Vantage that you could not find the parts.

----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Hughes
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count

Someone posted some formulas to help calculate what you should enter in the ABC Code setup screen to help you cycle through all your parts in the course of a year. Does anyone remember? I search the old posts for "cycle count abc code" and so on, but cannot find it...

Thank you!

________________________________
From: thughes281 <thughes281@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:24:23 PM
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count

When I Void the tag, it unfortunately does just the opposite.
It zeroed the inventory out, posting an ADJ-INV transaction for a negative of what the countexp

Is this a bug, or the way it is supposed to work?
Did I do it wrong?

I entered the tag in Count Entry, then clicked the Void button to the right of it.

How do you safely void a tag you don't want to count, or can't count that day?
Void as in, leaves inventory as it was, and removes the tag from teh count set so I don't have to enter anything?

--- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, "Charles Carden" <shadowcar1449@ ...> wrote:
>
> You will have to void all of the other tags to keep those parts from being set to zero during the posting process. Don't just mark them as returned as this will indicate a zero count. This would be a tedious process as you must confirm for every tag you void. Also, once voided, always voided.
>
> Cycle counting was designed to select parts based on the ABC code settings or to be used for a full inventory count. There is no method to let you select only the parts you want to count. In fact, if you attempt to select parts manually you are only able to select one part at a time using the search function. Also, a paste insert will not work in the list view either.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tony Hughes
> To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 8:54 AM
> Subject: [Vantage] Cycle count
>
>
> What happens if you start a Full Cycle Count, but only ever enter some of the parts?
>
> Say, I want to do only a subset of my bins, but I don't have the bins set up as Warehouses. So, I run a Full and only enter values for the bins I count.
>
> What effect does this have?
>
> Thank you, this is our first Full Cycle count in Vtg 8.x, so hopefully this question isn't too stupid :-D
>
> TOny
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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system · March 19, 2009, 9:56am

Fair enough, so then say I want to remove a tag from the count in the sense I am talking about.

Remove it as in, "delete the countexp record, delete the counttag record, pretend this never existed"
"I am not going to count Part A in Bin 123, and I don't want to change whatever it is Vantage thought was in that bin when the count was started".

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From: gclauser <gclauser@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 7:40:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count

That's the way it's supposed to work. Tags are printed for parts that are supposed to have a balance. If you void the tag you're telling Vantage that you could not find the parts.

----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Hughes
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count

Someone posted some formulas to help calculate what you should enter in the ABC Code setup screen to help you cycle through all your parts in the course of a year. Does anyone remember? I search the old posts for "cycle count abc code" and so on, but cannot find it...

Thank you!

____________ _________ _________ __
From: thughes281 <thughes281@yahoo. com>
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:24:23 PM
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count

When I Void the tag, it unfortunately does just the opposite.
It zeroed the inventory out, posting an ADJ-INV transaction for a negative of what the countexp

Is this a bug, or the way it is supposed to work?
Did I do it wrong?

I entered the tag in Count Entry, then clicked the Void button to the right of it.

How do you safely void a tag you don't want to count, or can't count that day?
Void as in, leaves inventory as it was, and removes the tag from teh count set so I don't have to enter anything?

--- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, "Charles Carden" <shadowcar1449@ ...> wrote:
>
> You will have to void all of the other tags to keep those parts from being set to zero during the posting process. Don't just mark them as returned as this will indicate a zero count. This would be a tedious process as you must confirm for every tag you void. Also, once voided, always voided.
>
> Cycle counting was designed to select parts based on the ABC code settings or to be used for a full inventory count. There is no method to let you select only the parts you want to count. In fact, if you attempt to select parts manually you are only able to select one part at a time using the search function. Also, a paste insert will not work in the list view either.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tony Hughes
> To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 8:54 AM
> Subject: [Vantage] Cycle count
>
>
> What happens if you start a Full Cycle Count, but only ever enter some of the parts?
>
> Say, I want to do only a subset of my bins, but I don't have the bins set up as Warehouses. So, I run a Full and only enter values for the bins I count.
>
> What effect does this have?
>
> Thank you, this is our first Full Cycle count in Vtg 8.x, so hopefully this question isn't too stupid :-D
>
> TOny
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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system · March 19, 2009, 11:26am

Excuse me but NO (at least thru 405A & every other system I've ever used).

When you void a tag it is a mechanism to EXCLUDE it from the update (and yet let you be assured all tags are accounted for).

If it's not working like that for you, please tell me what version(s) you are on so I can avoid them like the plague. (Seriously!)

-------

ABC basis: Help file is pretty good in describing the tiers avaiable,

Min Unit COst for Prt to qualify for A, B or C.

?Last 30 days? - can't remember - Receipt + Issue combined total cost (flow - In & Out) history tiers.

Best thing to do is do a ?30 day? dump of your part trans records into excel and summarize the cost flow total over that time (per part).

Then rank by top $'s decending and select the min $ tiers for A B C (using the old APICS 5/15/80 or 10/20/70 % rules).

Similarly, look at unit costs decending to come up with the secondary unit cost tier rules for ABC.

Don't get to braod with each or your results will be heavily biased to A and be 'top heavy'.

Rob

--- On Thu, 3/19/09, gclauser <gclauser@...> wrote:

From: gclauser <gclauser@...>
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 8:40 AM

That's the way it's supposed to work. Tags are printed for parts that are supposed to have a balance. If you void the tag you're telling Vantage that you could not find the parts.

----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Hughes
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count

Someone posted some formulas to help calculate what you should enter in the ABC Code setup screen to help you cycle through all your parts in the course of a year. Does anyone remember? I search the old posts for "cycle count abc code" and so on, but cannot find it...

Thank you!

____________ _________ _________ __
From: thughes281 <thughes281@yahoo. com>
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:24:23 PM
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count

When I Void the tag, it unfortunately does just the opposite.
It zeroed the inventory out, posting an ADJ-INV transaction for a negative of what the countexp

Is this a bug, or the way it is supposed to work?
Did I do it wrong?

I entered the tag in Count Entry, then clicked the Void button to the right of it.

How do you safely void a tag you don't want to count, or can't count that day?
Void as in, leaves inventory as it was, and removes the tag from teh count set so I don't have to enter anything?

--- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, "Charles Carden" <shadowcar1449@ ...> wrote:
>
> You will have to void all of the other tags to keep those parts from being set to zero during the posting process. Don't just mark them as returned as this will indicate a zero count. This would be a tedious process as you must confirm for every tag you void. Also, once voided, always voided.
>
> Cycle counting was designed to select parts based on the ABC code settings or to be used for a full inventory count. There is no method to let you select only the parts you want to count. In fact, if you attempt to select parts manually you are only able to select one part at a time using the search function. Also, a paste insert will not work in the list view either.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tony Hughes
> To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 8:54 AM
> Subject: [Vantage] Cycle count
>
>
> What happens if you start a Full Cycle Count, but only ever enter some of the parts?
>
> Say, I want to do only a subset of my bins, but I don't have the bins set up as Warehouses. So, I run a Full and only enter values for the bins I count.
>
> What effect does this have?
>
> Thank you, this is our first Full Cycle count in Vtg 8.x, so hopefully this question isn't too stupid :-D
>
> TOny
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
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system · March 19, 2009, 12:06pm

Robert, I don't recall which version we started doing cycle counts on,
probably 403a if I had to guess, but we found the painful way that
voided tickets did in fact zero out that particular part.

I expected it to do what you have outlined, we're on 405 currently,
perhaps it was a bug in a version somewhere along the way. Our next
cycle count I'll pull one tag out to test on.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robert Brown
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 8:54 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count

Excuse me but NO (at least thru 405A & every other system I've ever
used).

When you void a tag it is a mechanism to EXCLUDE it from the update (and
yet let you be assured all tags are accounted for).

If it's not working like that for you, please tell me what version(s)
you are on so I can avoid them like the plague. (Seriously!)

-------

ABC basis: Help file is pretty good in describing the tiers avaiable,

Min Unit COst for Prt to qualify for A, B or C.

?Last 30 days? - can't remember - Receipt + Issue combined total cost
(flow - In & Out) history tiers.

Best thing to do is do a ?30 day? dump of your part trans records into
excel and summarize the cost flow total over that time (per part).

Then rank by top $'s decending and select the min $ tiers for A B C
(using the old APICS 5/15/80 or 10/20/70 % rules).

Similarly, look at unit costs decending to come up with the secondary
unit cost tier rules for ABC.

Don't get to braod with each or your results will be heavily biased to A
and be 'top heavy'.

Rob

--- On Thu, 3/19/09, gclauser <gclauser@...
<mailto:gclauser%40ameritech.net> > wrote:

From: gclauser <gclauser@... <mailto:gclauser%40ameritech.net>

>

Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 8:40 AM

That's the way it's supposed to work. Tags are printed for parts that
are supposed to have a balance. If you void the tag you're telling
Vantage that you could not find the parts.

----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Hughes
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count

Someone posted some formulas to help calculate what you should enter in
the ABC Code setup screen to help you cycle through all your parts in
the course of a year. Does anyone remember? I search the old posts for
"cycle count abc code" and so on, but cannot find it...

Thank you!

____________ _________ _________ __
From: thughes281 <thughes281@yahoo. com>
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:24:23 PM
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count

When I Void the tag, it unfortunately does just the opposite.
It zeroed the inventory out, posting an ADJ-INV transaction for a
negative of what the countexp

Is this a bug, or the way it is supposed to work?
Did I do it wrong?

I entered the tag in Count Entry, then clicked the Void button to the
right of it.

How do you safely void a tag you don't want to count, or can't count
that day?
Void as in, leaves inventory as it was, and removes the tag from teh
count set so I don't have to enter anything?

--- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, "Charles Carden" <shadowcar1449@ ...>
wrote:
>
> You will have to void all of the other tags to keep those parts from
being set to zero during the posting process. Don't just mark them as
returned as this will indicate a zero count. This would be a tedious
process as you must confirm for every tag you void. Also, once voided,
always voided.
>
> Cycle counting was designed to select parts based on the ABC code
settings or to be used for a full inventory count. There is no method to
let you select only the parts you want to count. In fact, if you attempt
to select parts manually you are only able to select one part at a time
using the search function. Also, a paste insert will not work in the
list view either.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tony Hughes
> To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 8:54 AM
> Subject: [Vantage] Cycle count
>
>
> What happens if you start a Full Cycle Count, but only ever enter some
of the parts?
>
> Say, I want to do only a subset of my bins, but I don't have the bins
set up as Warehouses. So, I run a Full and only enter values for the
bins I count.
>
> What effect does this have?
>
> Thank you, this is our first Full Cycle count in Vtg 8.x, so hopefully
this question isn't too stupid :-D
>
> TOny
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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system · March 19, 2009, 12:07pm

We are on 803.405. Here is what the help file says about Voided tags: *Once
a tag has been voided, you cannot make any changes to that tag. Voiding a
tag and then posting the count adjusts the on-hand inventory for the part on
the voided tag to zero. If you do, in fact, need to count that part, add a
new tag number.

Jeff

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Robert Brown
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:54 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count

Excuse me but NO (at least thru 405A & every other system I've ever used).

When you void a tag it is a mechanism to EXCLUDE it from the update (and yet
let you be assured all tags are accounted for).

If it's not working like that for you, please tell me what version(s) you
are on so I can avoid them like the plague. (Seriously!)

-------

ABC basis: Help file is pretty good in describing the tiers avaiable,

Min Unit COst for Prt to qualify for A, B or C.

?Last 30 days? - can't remember - Receipt + Issue combined total cost (flow
- In & Out) history tiers.

Best thing to do is do a ?30 day? dump of your part trans records into excel
and summarize the cost flow total over that time (per part).

Then rank by top $'s decending and select the min $ tiers for A B C (using
the old APICS 5/15/80 or 10/20/70 % rules).

Similarly, look at unit costs decending to come up with the secondary unit
cost tier rules for ABC.

Don't get to braod with each or your results will be heavily biased to A and
be 'top heavy'.

Rob

--- On Thu, 3/19/09, gclauser <gclauser@...
<mailto:gclauser%40ameritech.net> > wrote:

From: gclauser <gclauser@... <mailto:gclauser%40ameritech.net> >
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 8:40 AM

That's the way it's supposed to work. Tags are printed for parts that are
supposed to have a balance. If you void the tag you're telling Vantage that
you could not find the parts.

----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Hughes
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count

Someone posted some formulas to help calculate what you should enter in the
ABC Code setup screen to help you cycle through all your parts in the course
of a year. Does anyone remember? I search the old posts for "cycle count abc
code" and so on, but cannot find it...

Thank you!

____________ _________ _________ __
From: thughes281 <thughes281@yahoo. com>
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:24:23 PM
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count

When I Void the tag, it unfortunately does just the opposite.
It zeroed the inventory out, posting an ADJ-INV transaction for a negative
of what the countexp

Is this a bug, or the way it is supposed to work?
Did I do it wrong?

I entered the tag in Count Entry, then clicked the Void button to the right
of it.

How do you safely void a tag you don't want to count, or can't count that
day?
Void as in, leaves inventory as it was, and removes the tag from teh count
set so I don't have to enter anything?

--- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, "Charles Carden" <shadowcar1449@ ...>
wrote:
>
> You will have to void all of the other tags to keep those parts from being
set to zero during the posting process. Don't just mark them as returned as
this will indicate a zero count. This would be a tedious process as you must
confirm for every tag you void. Also, once voided, always voided.
>
> Cycle counting was designed to select parts based on the ABC code settings
or to be used for a full inventory count. There is no method to let you
select only the parts you want to count. In fact, if you attempt to select
parts manually you are only able to select one part at a time using the
search function. Also, a paste insert will not work in the list view either.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tony Hughes
> To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 8:54 AM
> Subject: [Vantage] Cycle count
>
>
> What happens if you start a Full Cycle Count, but only ever enter some of
the parts?
>
> Say, I want to do only a subset of my bins, but I don't have the bins set
up as Warehouses. So, I run a Full and only enter values for the bins I
count.
>
> What effect does this have?
>
> Thank you, this is our first Full Cycle count in Vtg 8.x, so hopefully
this question isn't too stupid :-D
>
> TOny
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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system · March 19, 2009, 12:21pm

I am just starting to play with cycle counts. In 404a the on line helps
states that voiding a tag zeros out any on hand balance, and checking
the returned box allows you to take no action on the part. It would be
nice if you could selectively remove parts from the selected parts in
the part group. It would also be nice to create count groups by parts
class instead of warehouse for those of us who made the mistake of using
a default warehouse location way back when...... Rumor has it that "the
cycle count process in 9.0 has been totally redesigned"

Dan Shallbetter

States Electric Mfg.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robert Brown
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:54 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count

Excuse me but NO (at least thru 405A & every other system I've ever
used).

When you void a tag it is a mechanism to EXCLUDE it from the update (and
yet let you be assured all tags are accounted for).

If it's not working like that for you, please tell me what version(s)
you are on so I can avoid them like the plague. (Seriously!)

-------

ABC basis: Help file is pretty good in describing the tiers avaiable,

Min Unit COst for Prt to qualify for A, B or C.

?Last 30 days? - can't remember - Receipt + Issue combined total cost
(flow - In & Out) history tiers.

Best thing to do is do a ?30 day? dump of your part trans records into
excel and summarize the cost flow total over that time (per part).

Then rank by top $'s decending and select the min $ tiers for A B C
(using the old APICS 5/15/80 or 10/20/70 % rules).

Similarly, look at unit costs decending to come up with the secondary
unit cost tier rules for ABC.

Don't get to braod with each or your results will be heavily biased to A
and be 'top heavy'.

Rob

--- On Thu, 3/19/09, gclauser <gclauser@...
<mailto:gclauser%40ameritech.net> > wrote:

From: gclauser <gclauser@... <mailto:gclauser%40ameritech.net>

>

Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 8:40 AM

That's the way it's supposed to work. Tags are printed for parts that
are supposed to have a balance. If you void the tag you're telling
Vantage that you could not find the parts.

----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Hughes
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count

Someone posted some formulas to help calculate what you should enter in
the ABC Code setup screen to help you cycle through all your parts in
the course of a year. Does anyone remember? I search the old posts for
"cycle count abc code" and so on, but cannot find it...

Thank you!

____________ _________ _________ __
From: thughes281 <thughes281@yahoo. com>
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:24:23 PM
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count

When I Void the tag, it unfortunately does just the opposite.
It zeroed the inventory out, posting an ADJ-INV transaction for a
negative of what the countexp

Is this a bug, or the way it is supposed to work?
Did I do it wrong?

I entered the tag in Count Entry, then clicked the Void button to the
right of it.

How do you safely void a tag you don't want to count, or can't count
that day?
Void as in, leaves inventory as it was, and removes the tag from teh
count set so I don't have to enter anything?

--- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, "Charles Carden" <shadowcar1449@ ...>
wrote:
>
> You will have to void all of the other tags to keep those parts from
being set to zero during the posting process. Don't just mark them as
returned as this will indicate a zero count. This would be a tedious
process as you must confirm for every tag you void. Also, once voided,
always voided.
>
> Cycle counting was designed to select parts based on the ABC code
settings or to be used for a full inventory count. There is no method to
let you select only the parts you want to count. In fact, if you attempt
to select parts manually you are only able to select one part at a time
using the search function. Also, a paste insert will not work in the
list view either.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tony Hughes
> To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 8:54 AM
> Subject: [Vantage] Cycle count
>
>
> What happens if you start a Full Cycle Count, but only ever enter some
of the parts?
>
> Say, I want to do only a subset of my bins, but I don't have the bins
set up as Warehouses. So, I run a Full and only enter values for the
bins I count.
>
> What effect does this have?
>
> Thank you, this is our first Full Cycle count in Vtg 8.x, so hopefully
this question isn't too stupid :-D
>
> TOny
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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system · March 19, 2009, 1:03pm

Rob,
Even back in 6.1, voiding the tag zeros out the quantity of the part.
Here's what help says:
Voiding a tag and then posting the count adjusts the on-hand inventory to zero. This results in subsequent orders not being able to see the stock, among other things. Make sure that this is really what you want to do.

If we don't have time to count everything, we enter the quantity that Vantage thinks is there and then keep the list to count those parts the next day.
We never use "void" after finding that out years ago. I agree with your logic (it should simply exclude it from being considered), but it doesn't work that way.

Julie
Mercury Minnesota Inc.

----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Brown
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count

Excuse me but NO (at least thru 405A & every other system I've ever used).

When you void a tag it is a mechanism to EXCLUDE it from the update (and yet let you be assured all tags are accounted for).

If it's not working like that for you, please tell me what version(s) you are on so I can avoid them like the plague. (Seriously!)

-------

ABC basis: Help file is pretty good in describing the tiers avaiable,

Min Unit COst for Prt to qualify for A, B or C.

?Last 30 days? - can't remember - Receipt + Issue combined total cost (flow - In & Out) history tiers.

Best thing to do is do a ?30 day? dump of your part trans records into excel and summarize the cost flow total over that time (per part).

Then rank by top $'s decending and select the min $ tiers for A B C (using the old APICS 5/15/80 or 10/20/70 % rules).

Similarly, look at unit costs decending to come up with the secondary unit cost tier rules for ABC.

Don't get to braod with each or your results will be heavily biased to A and be 'top heavy'.

Rob

--- On Thu, 3/19/09, gclauser <gclauser@...> wrote:

From: gclauser <gclauser@...>
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 8:40 AM

That's the way it's supposed to work. Tags are printed for parts that are supposed to have a balance. If you void the tag you're telling Vantage that you could not find the parts.

----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Hughes
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count

Someone posted some formulas to help calculate what you should enter in the ABC Code setup screen to help you cycle through all your parts in the course of a year. Does anyone remember? I search the old posts for "cycle count abc code" and so on, but cannot find it...

Thank you!

____________ _________ _________ __
From: thughes281 <thughes281@yahoo. com>
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:24:23 PM
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count

When I Void the tag, it unfortunately does just the opposite.
It zeroed the inventory out, posting an ADJ-INV transaction for a negative of what the countexp

Is this a bug, or the way it is supposed to work?
Did I do it wrong?

I entered the tag in Count Entry, then clicked the Void button to the right of it.

How do you safely void a tag you don't want to count, or can't count that day?
Void as in, leaves inventory as it was, and removes the tag from teh count set so I don't have to enter anything?

--- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, "Charles Carden" <shadowcar1449@ ...> wrote:
>
> You will have to void all of the other tags to keep those parts from being set to zero during the posting process. Don't just mark them as returned as this will indicate a zero count. This would be a tedious process as you must confirm for every tag you void. Also, once voided, always voided.
>
> Cycle counting was designed to select parts based on the ABC code settings or to be used for a full inventory count. There is no method to let you select only the parts you want to count. In fact, if you attempt to select parts manually you are only able to select one part at a time using the search function. Also, a paste insert will not work in the list view either.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tony Hughes
> To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 8:54 AM
> Subject: [Vantage] Cycle count
>
>
> What happens if you start a Full Cycle Count, but only ever enter some of the parts?
>
> Say, I want to do only a subset of my bins, but I don't have the bins set up as Warehouses. So, I run a Full and only enter values for the bins I count.
>
> What effect does this have?
>
> Thank you, this is our first Full Cycle count in Vtg 8.x, so hopefully this question isn't too stupid :-D
>
> TOny
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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system · March 19, 2009, 1:17pm

Our Vantage Rep that we brought out for the 6.0 to 8.0 conversion
mentioned that you could set up a query to bring parts in to the cycle
countby a bin location, etc...I have not played with this at all, and of
course did not request to see an example to this at the time. :-(

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Dan Shallbetter
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 8:40 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count

I am just starting to play with cycle counts. In 404a the on line helps
states that voiding a tag zeros out any on hand balance, and checking
the returned box allows you to take no action on the part. It would be
nice if you could selectively remove parts from the selected parts in
the part group. It would also be nice to create count groups by parts
class instead of warehouse for those of us who made the mistake of using
a default warehouse location way back when...... Rumor has it that "the
cycle count process in 9.0 has been totally redesigned"

Dan Shallbetter

States Electric Mfg.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Robert Brown
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:54 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count

Excuse me but NO (at least thru 405A & every other system I've ever
used).

When you void a tag it is a mechanism to EXCLUDE it from the update (and
yet let you be assured all tags are accounted for).

If it's not working like that for you, please tell me what version(s)
you are on so I can avoid them like the plague. (Seriously!)

-------

ABC basis: Help file is pretty good in describing the tiers avaiable,

Min Unit COst for Prt to qualify for A, B or C.

?Last 30 days? - can't remember - Receipt + Issue combined total cost
(flow - In & Out) history tiers.

Best thing to do is do a ?30 day? dump of your part trans records into
excel and summarize the cost flow total over that time (per part).

Then rank by top $'s decending and select the min $ tiers for A B C
(using the old APICS 5/15/80 or 10/20/70 % rules).

Similarly, look at unit costs decending to come up with the secondary
unit cost tier rules for ABC.

Don't get to braod with each or your results will be heavily biased to A
and be 'top heavy'.

Rob

--- On Thu, 3/19/09, gclauser <gclauser@...
<mailto:gclauser%40ameritech.net>
<mailto:gclauser%40ameritech.net> > wrote:

From: gclauser <gclauser@... <mailto:gclauser%40ameritech.net>
<mailto:gclauser%40ameritech.net>

>

Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 8:40 AM

That's the way it's supposed to work. Tags are printed for parts that
are supposed to have a balance. If you void the tag you're telling
Vantage that you could not find the parts.

----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Hughes
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count

Someone posted some formulas to help calculate what you should enter in
the ABC Code setup screen to help you cycle through all your parts in
the course of a year. Does anyone remember? I search the old posts for
"cycle count abc code" and so on, but cannot find it...

Thank you!

____________ _________ _________ __
From: thughes281 <thughes281@yahoo. com>
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:24:23 PM
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count

When I Void the tag, it unfortunately does just the opposite.
It zeroed the inventory out, posting an ADJ-INV transaction for a
negative of what the countexp

Is this a bug, or the way it is supposed to work?
Did I do it wrong?

I entered the tag in Count Entry, then clicked the Void button to the
right of it.

How do you safely void a tag you don't want to count, or can't count
that day?
Void as in, leaves inventory as it was, and removes the tag from teh
count set so I don't have to enter anything?

--- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, "Charles Carden" <shadowcar1449@ ...>
wrote:
>
> You will have to void all of the other tags to keep those parts from
being set to zero during the posting process. Don't just mark them as
returned as this will indicate a zero count. This would be a tedious
process as you must confirm for every tag you void. Also, once voided,
always voided.
>
> Cycle counting was designed to select parts based on the ABC code
settings or to be used for a full inventory count. There is no method to
let you select only the parts you want to count. In fact, if you attempt
to select parts manually you are only able to select one part at a time
using the search function. Also, a paste insert will not work in the
list view either.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tony Hughes
> To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 8:54 AM
> Subject: [Vantage] Cycle count
>
>
> What happens if you start a Full Cycle Count, but only ever enter some
of the parts?
>
> Say, I want to do only a subset of my bins, but I don't have the bins
set up as Warehouses. So, I run a Full and only enter values for the
bins I count.
>
> What effect does this have?
>
> Thank you, this is our first Full Cycle count in Vtg 8.x, so hopefully
this question isn't too stupid :-D
>
> TOny
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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system · March 19, 2009, 1:26pm

if this is in fact how it is designed to function then how do others handle situations such as lost tags or employees getting busy and not completing the cycle count? i tested the cycle counting process but did not even think to test voided tags as i assumed it would react as every other system i been on would.

BILL R. KING
J&B Industrial Services
(806).776.4409 Office
(254).592.4397 Cell

________________________________
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Stockard
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:33 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count

We are on 803.405. Here is what the help file says about Voided tags: *Once
a tag has been voided, you cannot make any changes to that tag. Voiding a
tag and then posting the count adjusts the on-hand inventory for the part on
the voided tag to zero. If you do, in fact, need to count that part, add a
new tag number.

Jeff

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
Robert Brown
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:54 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count

Excuse me but NO (at least thru 405A & every other system I've ever used).

When you void a tag it is a mechanism to EXCLUDE it from the update (and yet
let you be assured all tags are accounted for).

If it's not working like that for you, please tell me what version(s) you
are on so I can avoid them like the plague. (Seriously!)

-------

ABC basis: Help file is pretty good in describing the tiers avaiable,

Min Unit COst for Prt to qualify for A, B or C.

?Last 30 days? - can't remember - Receipt + Issue combined total cost (flow
- In & Out) history tiers.

Best thing to do is do a ?30 day? dump of your part trans records into excel
and summarize the cost flow total over that time (per part).

Then rank by top $'s decending and select the min $ tiers for A B C (using
the old APICS 5/15/80 or 10/20/70 % rules).

Similarly, look at unit costs decending to come up with the secondary unit
cost tier rules for ABC.

Don't get to braod with each or your results will be heavily biased to A and
be 'top heavy'.

Rob

--- On Thu, 3/19/09, gclauser <gclauser@...<mailto:gclauser%40ameritech.net>
<mailto:gclauser%40ameritech.net> > wrote:

From: gclauser <gclauser@...<mailto:gclauser%40ameritech.net> <mailto:gclauser%40ameritech.net> >
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 8:40 AM

That's the way it's supposed to work. Tags are printed for parts that are
supposed to have a balance. If you void the tag you're telling Vantage that
you could not find the parts.

----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Hughes
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count

Someone posted some formulas to help calculate what you should enter in the
ABC Code setup screen to help you cycle through all your parts in the course
of a year. Does anyone remember? I search the old posts for "cycle count abc
code" and so on, but cannot find it...

Thank you!

____________ _________ _________ __
From: thughes281 <thughes281@yahoo. com>
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:24:23 PM
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count

When I Void the tag, it unfortunately does just the opposite.
It zeroed the inventory out, posting an ADJ-INV transaction for a negative
of what the countexp

Is this a bug, or the way it is supposed to work?
Did I do it wrong?

I entered the tag in Count Entry, then clicked the Void button to the right
of it.

How do you safely void a tag you don't want to count, or can't count that
day?
Void as in, leaves inventory as it was, and removes the tag from teh count
set so I don't have to enter anything?

--- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, "Charles Carden" <shadowcar1449@ ...>
wrote:
>
> You will have to void all of the other tags to keep those parts from being
set to zero during the posting process. Don't just mark them as returned as
this will indicate a zero count. This would be a tedious process as you must
confirm for every tag you void. Also, once voided, always voided.
>
> Cycle counting was designed to select parts based on the ABC code settings
or to be used for a full inventory count. There is no method to let you
select only the parts you want to count. In fact, if you attempt to select
parts manually you are only able to select one part at a time using the
search function. Also, a paste insert will not work in the list view either.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tony Hughes
> To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 8:54 AM
> Subject: [Vantage] Cycle count
>
>
> What happens if you start a Full Cycle Count, but only ever enter some of
the parts?
>
> Say, I want to do only a subset of my bins, but I don't have the bins set
up as Warehouses. So, I run a Full and only enter values for the bins I
count.
>
> What effect does this have?
>
> Thank you, this is our first Full Cycle count in Vtg 8.x, so hopefully
this question isn't too stupid :-D
>
> TOny
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system · March 19, 2009, 1:27pm

Thanks Dan. I'll sleep better tonight. :)

I forgot about the return tag step. (whew!)

I helped set the 60 part-whse-bin per day process 2 months ago but don't execute it daily except as a last resort back up.

Sorry for creating confusion.

Rob

--- On Thu, 3/19/09, Dan Shallbetter <dans@...> wrote:

From: Dan Shallbetter <dans@...>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 11:39 AM

I am just starting to play with cycle counts. In 404a the on line helps
states that voiding a tag zeros out any on hand balance, and checking
the returned box allows you to take no action on the part. It would be
nice if you could selectively remove parts from the selected parts in
the part group. It would also be nice to create count groups by parts
class instead of warehouse for those of us who made the mistake of using
a default warehouse location way back when...... Rumor has it that "the
cycle count process in 9.0 has been totally redesigned"

Dan Shallbetter

States Electric Mfg.

From: vantage@yahoogroups .com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf
Of Robert Brown
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:54 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count

Excuse me but NO (at least thru 405A & every other system I've ever
used).

When you void a tag it is a mechanism to EXCLUDE it from the update (and
yet let you be assured all tags are accounted for).

If it's not working like that for you, please tell me what version(s)
you are on so I can avoid them like the plague. (Seriously!)

-------

ABC basis: Help file is pretty good in describing the tiers avaiable,

Min Unit COst for Prt to qualify for A, B or C.

?Last 30 days? - can't remember - Receipt + Issue combined total cost
(flow - In & Out) history tiers.

Best thing to do is do a ?30 day? dump of your part trans records into
excel and summarize the cost flow total over that time (per part).

Then rank by top $'s decending and select the min $ tiers for A B C
(using the old APICS 5/15/80 or 10/20/70 % rules).

Similarly, look at unit costs decending to come up with the secondary
unit cost tier rules for ABC.

Don't get to braod with each or your results will be heavily biased to A
and be 'top heavy'.

Rob

--- On Thu, 3/19/09, gclauser <gclauser@ameritech. net
<mailto:gclauser% 40ameritech. net> > wrote:

From: gclauser <gclauser@ameritech. net <mailto:gclauser% 40ameritech. net>
>
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com <mailto:vantage% 40yahoogroups. com>
Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 8:40 AM

That's the way it's supposed to work. Tags are printed for parts that
are supposed to have a balance. If you void the tag you're telling
Vantage that you could not find the parts.

----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Hughes
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count

Someone posted some formulas to help calculate what you should enter in
the ABC Code setup screen to help you cycle through all your parts in
the course of a year. Does anyone remember? I search the old posts for
"cycle count abc code" and so on, but cannot find it...

Thank you!

____________ _________ _________ __
From: thughes281 <thughes281@ yahoo. com>
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:24:23 PM
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count

When I Void the tag, it unfortunately does just the opposite.
It zeroed the inventory out, posting an ADJ-INV transaction for a
negative of what the countexp

Is this a bug, or the way it is supposed to work?
Did I do it wrong?

I entered the tag in Count Entry, then clicked the Void button to the
right of it.

How do you safely void a tag you don't want to count, or can't count
that day?
Void as in, leaves inventory as it was, and removes the tag from teh
count set so I don't have to enter anything?

--- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, "Charles Carden" <shadowcar1449@ ...>
wrote:
>
> You will have to void all of the other tags to keep those parts from
being set to zero during the posting process. Don't just mark them as
returned as this will indicate a zero count. This would be a tedious
process as you must confirm for every tag you void. Also, once voided,
always voided.
>
> Cycle counting was designed to select parts based on the ABC code
settings or to be used for a full inventory count. There is no method to
let you select only the parts you want to count. In fact, if you attempt
to select parts manually you are only able to select one part at a time
using the search function. Also, a paste insert will not work in the
list view either.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tony Hughes
> To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 8:54 AM
> Subject: [Vantage] Cycle count
>
>
> What happens if you start a Full Cycle Count, but only ever enter some
of the parts?
>
> Say, I want to do only a subset of my bins, but I don't have the bins
set up as Warehouses. So, I run a Full and only enter values for the
bins I count.
>
> What effect does this have?
>
> Thank you, this is our first Full Cycle count in Vtg 8.x, so hopefully
this question isn't too stupid :-D
>
> TOny
>
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system · March 19, 2009, 1:32pm

if this is in fact how it is designed to function then how do others handle situations such as lost tags or employees getting busy and not completing the cycle count? i tested the cycle counting process but did not even think to test voided tags as i assumed it would react as every other system i been on would.

thanks,
bill

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Stockard" <jeff.stockard@...> wrote:
>
> We are on 803.405. Here is what the help file says about Voided tags: *Once
> a tag has been voided, you cannot make any changes to that tag. Voiding a
> tag and then posting the count adjusts the on-hand inventory for the part on
> the voided tag to zero. If you do, in fact, need to count that part, add a
> new tag number.
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Robert Brown
> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:54 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count
>
>
>
>
> Excuse me but NO (at least thru 405A & every other system I've ever used).
>
> When you void a tag it is a mechanism to EXCLUDE it from the update (and yet
> let you be assured all tags are accounted for).
>
> If it's not working like that for you, please tell me what version(s) you
> are on so I can avoid them like the plague. (Seriously!)
>
> -------
>
> ABC basis: Help file is pretty good in describing the tiers avaiable,
>
> Min Unit COst for Prt to qualify for A, B or C.
>
> ?Last 30 days? - can't remember - Receipt + Issue combined total cost (flow
> - In & Out) history tiers.
>
> Best thing to do is do a ?30 day? dump of your part trans records into excel
> and summarize the cost flow total over that time (per part).
>
> Then rank by top $'s decending and select the min $ tiers for A B C (using
> the old APICS 5/15/80 or 10/20/70 % rules).
>
> Similarly, look at unit costs decending to come up with the secondary unit
> cost tier rules for ABC.
>
> Don't get to braod with each or your results will be heavily biased to A and
> be 'top heavy'.
>
> Rob
>
> --- On Thu, 3/19/09, gclauser <gclauser@...
> <mailto:gclauser%40ameritech.net> > wrote:
>
> From: gclauser <gclauser@... <mailto:gclauser%40ameritech.net> >
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 8:40 AM
>
> That's the way it's supposed to work. Tags are printed for parts that are
> supposed to have a balance. If you void the tag you're telling Vantage that
> you could not find the parts.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tony Hughes
> To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count
>
> Someone posted some formulas to help calculate what you should enter in the
> ABC Code setup screen to help you cycle through all your parts in the course
> of a year. Does anyone remember? I search the old posts for "cycle count abc
> code" and so on, but cannot find it...
>
> Thank you!
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: thughes281 <thughes281@yahoo. com>
> To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:24:23 PM
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Cycle count
>
> When I Void the tag, it unfortunately does just the opposite.
> It zeroed the inventory out, posting an ADJ-INV transaction for a negative
> of what the countexp
>
> Is this a bug, or the way it is supposed to work?
> Did I do it wrong?
>
> I entered the tag in Count Entry, then clicked the Void button to the right
> of it.
>
> How do you safely void a tag you don't want to count, or can't count that
> day?
> Void as in, leaves inventory as it was, and removes the tag from teh count
> set so I don't have to enter anything?
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, "Charles Carden" <shadowcar1449@ ...>
> wrote:
> >
> > You will have to void all of the other tags to keep those parts from being
> set to zero during the posting process. Don't just mark them as returned as
> this will indicate a zero count. This would be a tedious process as you must
> confirm for every tag you void. Also, once voided, always voided.
> >
> > Cycle counting was designed to select parts based on the ABC code settings
> or to be used for a full inventory count. There is no method to let you
> select only the parts you want to count. In fact, if you attempt to select
> parts manually you are only able to select one part at a time using the
> search function. Also, a paste insert will not work in the list view either.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Tony Hughes
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 8:54 AM
> > Subject: [Vantage] Cycle count
> >
> >
> > What happens if you start a Full Cycle Count, but only ever enter some of
> the parts?
> >
> > Say, I want to do only a subset of my bins, but I don't have the bins set
> up as Warehouses. So, I run a Full and only enter values for the bins I
> count.
> >
> > What effect does this have?
> >
> > Thank you, this is our first Full Cycle count in Vtg 8.x, so hopefully
> this question isn't too stupid :-D
> >
> > TOny
> >
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> >
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