Dial-up Access

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We use Netmeeting, or you can use thin client. Thin client will cost upwards of $3000 - $7000 AUD depending on how many client machines you need to connect to it. Netmeeting is free. the only problem with netmeeting is that if the system is NT, the person dialling in need to know a user name and password with domain Administrator rights. If it is 98, they only need a password set up for that PC.

Regards,
David Sloan
IT Manager
Entech Integrated Technologies

----- Original Message -----
From: Juliet Martin
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 2:09 AM
Subject: [Vantage] Dial-up Access


Can anyone give me any tips on accessing Vantage from an external dial -
up location? I am not having much luck. I do have the external machine
dialed into the internal PC. I also can see the network. What do I
need to have in place so the external machine can run vantage from their
PC.

Juliet




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Can anyone give me any tips on accessing Vantage from an external dial -
up location? I am not having much luck. I do have the external machine
dialed into the internal PC. I also can see the network. What do I
need to have in place so the external machine can run vantage from their
PC.

Juliet
3
You could try a local install.

Ed Giallombardo
Major Industries, Inc.
7120 Stewart Ave
Wausau, WI 54403
(715 ) 842-4616

-----Original Message-----
From: Juliet Martin [mailto:jmartin@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 11:39 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Dial-up Access

Can anyone give me any tips on accessing Vantage from an external dial -
up location? I am not having much luck. I do have the external machine
dialed into the internal PC. I also can see the network. What do I
need to have in place so the external machine can run vantage from their
PC.

Juliet




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Juliet,

Fast, down and dirty. Go buy PcAnywhere and install it on your PC at work
and your PC at home. Connect via NETWORK using the IP address of your
desktop PC. You can then dial into your servers via RAS and then link to
your desktop via the network. From that point you will be running Vantage
on your desktop PC at work and "Seeing" the screens at home. You can also
setup PcAnywhere so that your printer at home is an "Option" on your desktop
PC at work. This allows you to print reports at home.

This is the cheapest, easiest, solution for 1 person.

Also - make sure to set your video drivers to the lowest number of colors
you can handle ( 32 ) instead of 16k or 32k or true-color and make sure both
PC's are in 800x680 mode. The larger the screen pixels and the larger the
number of colors the slower PcAnywhere will work.

Good luck,

Todd Anderson

-----Original Message-----
From: Juliet Martin [mailto:jmartin@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 11:39 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Dial-up Access


Can anyone give me any tips on accessing Vantage from an external dial -
up location? I am not having much luck. I do have the external machine
dialed into the internal PC. I also can see the network. What do I
need to have in place so the external machine can run vantage from their
PC.

Juliet


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We dial up to our RAS server and then use PC Anywhere.. It works great for
us... not too slow over a 56K modem. I have a scheduler kick my PC Anywhere
off every evening and it sits there "waiting for a connection" on the
network until I dial up and connect to it. Our sales guys dial up with a
laptop and put their orders in Vantage using PC Anywhere... It hasn't been a
problem at all.

-----Original Message-----
From: Juliet Martin [mailto:jmartin@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 11:39 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Dial-up Access


Can anyone give me any tips on accessing Vantage from an external dial -
up location? I am not having much luck. I do have the external machine
dialed into the internal PC. I also can see the network. What do I
need to have in place so the external machine can run vantage from their
PC.

Juliet


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Juliet,

Here's one additional option. Instead of purchasing PcAnywhere, you may
want to download the VNC remote viewer from AT&T Laboratories (
http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc <http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc> ).
As Todd said earlier this week regarding a different topic: works great,
less filling.

Regards,
Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 1:01 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Dial-up Access

Juliet,

Fast, down and dirty. Go buy PcAnywhere and install it on your PC at work
and your PC at home. Connect via NETWORK using the IP address of your
desktop PC. You can then dial into your servers via RAS and then link to
your desktop via the network. From that point you will be running Vantage
on your desktop PC at work and "Seeing" the screens at home. You can also
setup PcAnywhere so that your printer at home is an "Option" on your desktop
PC at work. This allows you to print reports at home.

This is the cheapest, easiest, solution for 1 person.

Also - make sure to set your video drivers to the lowest number of colors
you can handle ( 32 ) instead of 16k or 32k or true-color and make sure both
PC's are in 800x680 mode. The larger the screen pixels and the larger the
number of colors the slower PcAnywhere will work.

Good luck,

Todd Anderson

-----Original Message-----
From: Juliet Martin [mailto:jmartin@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 11:39 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Dial-up Access


Can anyone give me any tips on accessing Vantage from an external dial -
up location? I am not having much luck. I do have the external machine
dialed into the internal PC. I also can see the network. What do I
need to have in place so the external machine can run vantage from their
PC.

Juliet


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Agreed. PcAnywhere is the cheapest and easiest way to do it for a few
users. We tried a local install on a laptop and just linking to the
database over the line but it was incredibly slow, 5-8 minutes to log on
plus I had to bring the laptop into the shop every time there was a patch.

We have reason for a few people to need Vantage access off hours. We just
got a cheap desktop machine and a 5 user license of pcAnywhere and keep that
PC in the server room. That way nobody is dialing into anybody else's
personal work machine and can't snoop around reading e-mails, etc.

Rick
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VNC BONUS: FREEWARE, NO LICENSE TRACKING!!!

Regards,
Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: Lepley, Scott A. [mailto:sal@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 1:24 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Dial-up Access

Juliet,

Here's one additional option. Instead of purchasing PcAnywhere, you may
want to download the VNC remote viewer from AT&T Laboratories (
http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc <http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc> <
http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc <http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc> > ).
As Todd said earlier this week regarding a different topic: works great,
less filling.

Regards,
Scott




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At 01:36 PM 4/4/2001 , you wrote:
>VNC BONUS: FREEWARE, NO LICENSE TRACKING!!!

VNC is a neat little freebie. I use it in house (across LAN) to access
servers, and for remote trouble shooting with some of the more, ahhem,
"needy" users.

But compared to pcAnywhere the performance isn't that great. I think PCAW
has been tuned over the years to avoid xfering every little bit on the
screen. It uses compression, is able to cache things on the remote
machine, use local fonts on the remote, etc. VNC also seems to put a much
higher load on the host PC's CPU.

It's certainly worth a try over a modem (the price it right.) But check
out PCAW if performance matters.

-Wayne
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A company called Tridia expanded on VNC and has a free product called Tridiavnc. It has compression options included and has been much faster over 56K internet (with the ZLib compression turned on) than VNC was. www.tridiavnc.com. It is completely compatible with VNC (uses the same source code), so you can install it on one machine and still view an old VNC service.

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics


----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne Cox
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 3:22 PM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Dial-up Access


At 01:36 PM 4/4/2001 , you wrote:
>VNC BONUS: FREEWARE, NO LICENSE TRACKING!!!

VNC is a neat little freebie. I use it in house (across LAN) to access
servers, and for remote trouble shooting with some of the more, ahhem,
"needy" users.

But compared to pcAnywhere the performance isn't that great. I think PCAW
has been tuned over the years to avoid xfering every little bit on the
screen. It uses compression, is able to cache things on the remote
machine, use local fonts on the remote, etc. VNC also seems to put a much
higher load on the host PC's CPU.

It's certainly worth a try over a modem (the price it right.) But check
out PCAW if performance matters.

-Wayne





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