EDI 850 Blank Title 60154

LOL, well that certainly is an interesting perspective/experience.
Sounds like from that point I'm better off accepting a flat file and
just launching a service connect workflow (which I have done with other
customers).



Rob Bucek

Manufacturing Engineer

PH: 715-284-5376 ext 311

FAX: 715-284-4084

<http://www.dsmfg.com/>

(Click the logo to view our site)



________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steven Gotschall
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 9:30 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] EDI 850



Well, my experience hasn't been good. They have made some great
improvements in 8.03.407a, but if you don't have any experience in EDI
you will need some intensive training or contract someone to do it for
you.

If you don't have the Tie Commerce package, then you will need
communications and mapping software, and if you don't want to have to
manage all the different connections to your clients, you will have to
have a VAN service. Then you will have to have a service connect
workflow for each type of EDI document (provided in 8.03.407a), and
finally you will have to manage all incoming EDI through the Vantage
Demand Management module.

So to recap, you need to be an expert at telecommunications, two
different mapping programs, and know your way around demand management.
All this in an effort to make document exchange easy.

I've lost what little hair I have dealing with this.

________________________________
From: Rob Bucek <rbucek@... <mailto:rbucek%40dsmfg.com> >
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 6, 2009 10:00:31 AM
Subject: [Vantage] EDI 850

I had a customer inquire if we had EDI 850 capability. We did purchase
the EDI module but have never installed it, and I haven't had any
experience in the past with EDI. Can anyone shed some light on EPICOR's
idea of EDI. What has been your experience with regards to efficiency,
practicality, and accuracy of this system? So far the help section
hasn't told me much that I wanted to know. I appreciate anyone sharing
their experiences.

Rob Bucek

Manufacturing Engineer

PH: 715-284-5376 ext 311

FAX: 715-284-4084

<http://www.dsmfg com/>

(Click the logo to view our site)

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Is anyone receiving an EDI 850 where the customer uses their part number
instead of your part number in the file? Is it as simple as using my
EDI Software (Tie Commerce Edge Developer) to map their part number to
the Xpartnum on the SO Line?



Sorry if I am not explain this properly, I don't have much experience
with EDI.



Thanks,



Rich Wagner

BAW Plastics Inc.

412-384-3100

rwagner@... <mailto:rwagner@...>

www.bawplastics.com <http://www.bawplastics.com/>







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Rich, -ver. 6.1

I created an Access database to verify that the xpart in vantage for the
customer had a match with the 850. If it did, I believe I put the
Vantage part in the 850 flat file to import into Vantage. If no match,
then I inserted a part called UNKNOWN. This way, the engineering
department can look at open orders with this part to find which parts
need set up. Hope that helped.

Mario E. Aguirre - IT Manager
Lakin General Corporation, Inc.

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of RICH WAGNER
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 10:56 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] EDI 850



Is anyone receiving an EDI 850 where the customer uses their part number
instead of your part number in the file? Is it as simple as using my
EDI Software (Tie Commerce Edge Developer) to map their part number to
the Xpartnum on the SO Line?

Sorry if I am not explain this properly, I don't have much experience
with EDI.

Thanks,

Rich Wagner

BAW Plastics Inc.

412-384-3100

rwagner@... <mailto:rwagner%40bawplastics.com>
<mailto:rwagner@... <mailto:rwagner%40bawplastics.com> >

www.bawplastics.com <http://www.bawplastics.com/
<http://www.bawplastics.com/> >

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Mario,



Do you do this because you may not be cross referencing your part number
and the customer part number in Vantage, or do you do this because you
cannot map the xpartnum in your 850 file to the xpartnum in Vantage?



Thanks,



Rich Wagner

BAW Plastics Inc.

412-384-3100

rwagner@... <mailto:rwagner@...>

www.bawplastics.com <http://www.bawplastics.com/>





_____

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mario Aguirre
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 12:14 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] EDI 850



Rich, -ver. 6.1

I created an Access database to verify that the xpart in vantage for the
customer had a match with the 850. If it did, I believe I put the
Vantage part in the 850 flat file to import into Vantage. If no match,
then I inserted a part called UNKNOWN. This way, the engineering
department can look at open orders with this part to find which parts
need set up. Hope that helped.

Mario E. Aguirre - IT Manager
Lakin General Corporation, Inc.

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of RICH WAGNER
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 10:56 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] EDI 850

Is anyone receiving an EDI 850 where the customer uses their part number
instead of your part number in the file? Is it as simple as using my
EDI Software (Tie Commerce Edge Developer) to map their part number to
the Xpartnum on the SO Line?

Sorry if I am not explain this properly, I don't have much experience
with EDI.

Thanks,

Rich Wagner

BAW Plastics Inc.

412-384-3100

rwagner@... <mailto:rwagner%40bawplastics.com>
<mailto:rwagner%40bawplastics.com>
<mailto:rwagner@... <mailto:rwagner%40bawplastics.com>
<mailto:rwagner%40bawplastics.com> >

www.bawplastics.com <http://www.bawplastics.com/
<http://www.bawplastics.com/>
<http://www.bawplastics.com/ <http://www.bawplastics.com/> > >

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I was doing this extra step to verify that the part the customer wants
is set up in Vantage's part master. It is not required but it is nice to
modify the flat file before is uploaded to indicate engineers what parts
need set up. The customer part is always mapped to the xpart. The order
line part number can be anything if not the same as xpart. I did
incorporate the part checking as part of the procedure to create an 850
with Access. The user clicks a button in Access and all is done in the
background. It was nice since there were an average of 80 order lines
daily from our partner that the user would need to check after orders
were uploaded.

You could always run a report that compares the order line part vs the
part master after the upload.

Good luck!

Mario E. Aguirre - IT Manager
Lakin General Corporation, Inc.

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of RICH WAGNER
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 12:37 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] EDI 850



Mario,

Do you do this because you may not be cross referencing your part number
and the customer part number in Vantage, or do you do this because you
cannot map the xpartnum in your 850 file to the xpartnum in Vantage?

Thanks,

Rich Wagner

BAW Plastics Inc.

412-384-3100

rwagner@... <mailto:rwagner%40bawplastics.com>
<mailto:rwagner@... <mailto:rwagner%40bawplastics.com> >

www.bawplastics.com <http://www.bawplastics.com/
<http://www.bawplastics.com/> >

_____

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Mario Aguirre
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 12:14 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] EDI 850

Rich, -ver. 6.1

I created an Access database to verify that the xpart in vantage for the
customer had a match with the 850. If it did, I believe I put the
Vantage part in the 850 flat file to import into Vantage. If no match,
then I inserted a part called UNKNOWN. This way, the engineering
department can look at open orders with this part to find which parts
need set up. Hope that helped.

Mario E. Aguirre - IT Manager
Lakin General Corporation, Inc.

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of RICH WAGNER
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 10:56 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] EDI 850

Is anyone receiving an EDI 850 where the customer uses their part number
instead of your part number in the file? Is it as simple as using my
EDI Software (Tie Commerce Edge Developer) to map their part number to
the Xpartnum on the SO Line?

Sorry if I am not explain this properly, I don't have much experience
with EDI.

Thanks,

Rich Wagner

BAW Plastics Inc.

412-384-3100

rwagner@... <mailto:rwagner%40bawplastics.com>
<mailto:rwagner%40bawplastics.com>
<mailto:rwagner%40bawplastics.com>
<mailto:rwagner@... <mailto:rwagner%40bawplastics.com>
<mailto:rwagner%40bawplastics.com>
<mailto:rwagner%40bawplastics.com> >

www.bawplastics.com <http://www.bawplastics.com/
<http://www.bawplastics.com/>
<http://www.bawplastics.com/ <http://www.bawplastics.com/> >
<http://www.bawplastics.com/ <http://www.bawplastics.com/>
<http://www.bawplastics.com/ <http://www.bawplastics.com/> > > >

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I had a customer inquire if we had EDI 850 capability. We did purchase
the EDI module but have never installed it, and I haven't had any
experience in the past with EDI. Can anyone shed some light on EPICOR's
idea of EDI. What has been your experience with regards to efficiency,
practicality, and accuracy of this system? So far the help section
hasn't told me much that I wanted to know. I appreciate anyone sharing
their experiences.



Rob Bucek

Manufacturing Engineer

PH: 715-284-5376 ext 311

FAX: 715-284-4084

<http://www.dsmfg.com/>

(Click the logo to view our site)





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Hi Rob,



We are currently using EDI with Vantage. What version of Vantage are
you using and what SC workflows version do you have for EDI?

Karen S



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rob Bucek
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 9:01 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] EDI 850



I had a customer inquire if we had EDI 850 capability. We did purchase
the EDI module but have never installed it, and I haven't had any
experience in the past with EDI. Can anyone shed some light on EPICOR's
idea of EDI. What has been your experience with regards to efficiency,
practicality, and accuracy of this system? So far the help section
hasn't told me much that I wanted to know. I appreciate anyone sharing
their experiences.

Rob Bucek

Manufacturing Engineer

PH: 715-284-5376 ext 311

FAX: 715-284-4084

<http://www.dsmfg.com/>

(Click the logo to view our site)

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





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We are currently running 8.03.407. Currently installed is Service
connect 8.02 or 8.2. I was exactly aware that service connect and EDI
are tied together. We use the forecast module as well. Is there any
way that orders coming from our vendor can be cast into that lot? Or by
definition is EDI only meant to deal with firm orders coming from a
vendor. We do currently get a forecast csv from that vendor but its in
a form that isn't able to be easily processed without a few hours worth
of hacking and gouging. We were trying to get them to get us a flat
file and they came back with this 850 EDI thing. Something tells me its
not what were after unless it can tell the difference between a firm and
a forecast order and then put them respectively in the correct houses.



Rob Bucek

Manufacturing Engineer

PH: 715-284-5376 ext 311

FAX: 715-284-4084

<http://www.dsmfg.com/>

(Click the logo to view our site)



________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Karen Schoenung
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 9:17 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] EDI 850



Hi Rob,

We are currently using EDI with Vantage. What version of Vantage are
you using and what SC workflows version do you have for EDI?

Karen S

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Rob Bucek
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 9:01 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] EDI 850

I had a customer inquire if we had EDI 850 capability. We did purchase
the EDI module but have never installed it, and I haven't had any
experience in the past with EDI. Can anyone shed some light on EPICOR's
idea of EDI. What has been your experience with regards to efficiency,
practicality, and accuracy of this system? So far the help section
hasn't told me much that I wanted to know. I appreciate anyone sharing
their experiences.

Rob Bucek

Manufacturing Engineer

PH: 715-284-5376 ext 311

FAX: 715-284-4084

<http://www.dsmfg.com/ <http://www.dsmfg.com/> >

(Click the logo to view our site)

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





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Well, my experience hasn't been good. They have made some great improvements in 8.03.407a, but if you don't have any experience in EDI you will need some intensive training or contract someone to do it for you.

If you don't have the Tie Commerce package, then you will need communications and mapping software, and if you don't want to have to manage all the different connections to your clients, you will have to have a VAN service. Then you will have to have a service connect workflow for each type of EDI document (provided in 8.03.407a), and finally you will have to manage all incoming EDI through the Vantage Demand Management module.

So to recap, you need to be an expert at telecommunications, two different mapping programs, and know your way around demand management. All this in an effort to make document exchange easy.

I've lost what little hair I have dealing with this.




________________________________
From: Rob Bucek <rbucek@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 6, 2009 10:00:31 AM
Subject: [Vantage] EDI 850


I had a customer inquire if we had EDI 850 capability. We did purchase
the EDI module but have never installed it, and I haven't had any
experience in the past with EDI. Can anyone shed some light on EPICOR's
idea of EDI. What has been your experience with regards to efficiency,
practicality, and accuracy of this system? So far the help section
hasn't told me much that I wanted to know. I appreciate anyone sharing
their experiences.

Rob Bucek

Manufacturing Engineer

PH: 715-284-5376 ext 311

FAX: 715-284-4084

<http://www.dsmfg com/>

(Click the logo to view our site)

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