Epicor 9.05.607A WIP Capture question

The Phantom Purge is a Manufacturing Variance.



For MFG-STK jobs - our GL is set up to go to the Manufacturing Variance
account.



For MFG-CUS - our GL is setup to go to one of the Cost of Goods sold
accounts.



We have found problems with some of the transactions not relieving WIP
correctly. We have a lot of Sub-contract cost on jobs and just recently
found this problem - we are on 9.05.605 when we adjusted material through
Job Cost Adjustments. The material went to the GL and Job but, not the
Sub-Contract portion of the part cost.

"Retro Fix for SCR 86268 - 12-17 JM 9.05 Job Adjustments shows Sub contract
cost in Trans history" .



We also found a hole with WIP-MFG and MFG-WIP transactions not hitting the
GL or moving cost to the right jobs.



We have also found some strange behavior with the ADJ-PUR for the
subcontract not recalculating for our Average Cost.



Hope this helps.





From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
rhouseman86@...
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 8:36 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Epicor 9.05.607A WIP Capture question





It's not timing. These jobs have no adjustments, material issues, or any
other transactions after shipment. Also, they were shipped complete, one
shipment. We looked into both of those already.
Thanks for the reply!
Ryan

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Tom J.
Christie" <tchristie@...> wrote:
>
> Look into timing. Did material get issued to the job after the shipment
event? The WIP bucket (which contains all the costs issued to the job) is
emptied proportionally (if you ship half the job, half the current WIP
bucket value gets moved; if you ship the whole job, 100% of the bucket gets
moved). However, if you ship (and therefore empty the WIP bucket) and then
put some costs into the job, when the job is closed and captured Epicor
doesn't know where to put this remaining value and purges it out.
>
> At least that's the way my two-year old mind thinks about it. Perhaps
someone with some actual education can weigh in on it. However, investigate
timing.
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of rhouseman86@...
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 8:10 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] Epicor 9.05.607A WIP Capture question
>
>
>
> Hi All,
> I've got a question from my accounting department that I, again, don't
know how to answer. Darn accountants...
>
> When we do a Capture, our print out shows a whole bunch of 'Phantom Purge
WIP to COS' entries. Most are cents, but some total quite a lot. When we dig
into them, we see that, when a job is shipped, only part of the costs of the
job are being purged. When the job gets closed, the rest of the costs go
into this phantom purge.
>
> The question is- what IS the phantom purge, and why aren't all our costs
being moved when the job ships? We can't seem to trace it to estimated time,
overruns (too many parts made), or anything else.
>
> Thanks!
> Ryan
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





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Hi All,
I've got a question from my accounting department that I, again, don't know how to answer. Darn accountants...

When we do a Capture, our print out shows a whole bunch of 'Phantom Purge WIP to COS' entries. Most are cents, but some total quite a lot. When we dig into them, we see that, when a job is shipped, only part of the costs of the job are being purged. When the job gets closed, the rest of the costs go into this phantom purge.

The question is- what IS the phantom purge, and why aren't all our costs being moved when the job ships? We can't seem to trace it to estimated time, overruns (too many parts made), or anything else.

Thanks!
Ryan
Look into timing. Did material get issued to the job after the shipment event? The WIP bucket (which contains all the costs issued to the job) is emptied proportionally (if you ship half the job, half the current WIP bucket value gets moved; if you ship the whole job, 100% of the bucket gets moved). However, if you ship (and therefore empty the WIP bucket) and then put some costs into the job, when the job is closed and captured Epicor doesn't know where to put this remaining value and purges it out.

At least that's the way my two-year old mind thinks about it. Perhaps someone with some actual education can weigh in on it. However, investigate timing.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rhouseman86@...
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 8:10 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Epicor 9.05.607A WIP Capture question



Hi All,
I've got a question from my accounting department that I, again, don't know how to answer. Darn accountants...

When we do a Capture, our print out shows a whole bunch of 'Phantom Purge WIP to COS' entries. Most are cents, but some total quite a lot. When we dig into them, we see that, when a job is shipped, only part of the costs of the job are being purged. When the job gets closed, the rest of the costs go into this phantom purge.

The question is- what IS the phantom purge, and why aren't all our costs being moved when the job ships? We can't seem to trace it to estimated time, overruns (too many parts made), or anything else.

Thanks!
Ryan



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It's not timing. These jobs have no adjustments, material issues, or any other transactions after shipment. Also, they were shipped complete, one shipment. We looked into both of those already.
Thanks for the reply!
Ryan

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Tom J. Christie" <tchristie@...> wrote:
>
> Look into timing. Did material get issued to the job after the shipment event? The WIP bucket (which contains all the costs issued to the job) is emptied proportionally (if you ship half the job, half the current WIP bucket value gets moved; if you ship the whole job, 100% of the bucket gets moved). However, if you ship (and therefore empty the WIP bucket) and then put some costs into the job, when the job is closed and captured Epicor doesn't know where to put this remaining value and purges it out.
>
> At least that's the way my two-year old mind thinks about it. Perhaps someone with some actual education can weigh in on it. However, investigate timing.
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rhouseman86@...
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 8:10 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Epicor 9.05.607A WIP Capture question
>
>
>
> Hi All,
> I've got a question from my accounting department that I, again, don't know how to answer. Darn accountants...
>
> When we do a Capture, our print out shows a whole bunch of 'Phantom Purge WIP to COS' entries. Most are cents, but some total quite a lot. When we dig into them, we see that, when a job is shipped, only part of the costs of the job are being purged. When the job gets closed, the rest of the costs go into this phantom purge.
>
> The question is- what IS the phantom purge, and why aren't all our costs being moved when the job ships? We can't seem to trace it to estimated time, overruns (too many parts made), or anything else.
>
> Thanks!
> Ryan
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>